Broken System

[ReXii]

It was placed on his bio a long time ago and he was allowed to keep it because he became the Sage of Fire.

Because. Are those people Sages of Fire? No. Should they get it just because one person thinks that they should get it? No.

Well look at it this way someone has to make the descisions on who gets what and clearly other RPers are not fit to make such a choice since given the choice 90% of rpers would say no to someone having something better then they have.
Thats life and sorry but mathias....Pervy....Ali.
These people dont deserve such perks....Considering there huge contributions to NB since they joined they shouldnt be allowed nice things?

 

[Zoro..]

Sage Mode is present in his bio. He can control Sage Chakra. That's basically Sage Mode.

Why would it be unfair to take it away from them? New rules mean new rules. New rules should be enforced by the moderators and admins and people should update their biographies to fit the new rules.

A new rule is passed in the government, nobody can have cats anymore. Does that mean people who own cats already can still keep them? No.

Well its a mode like any other modes imo but if you disagree feel free.

Well if they make New Rules ruining the fun for the old gen will they stay? No way. That would mean 90% of senseis leave basically, some mods as well probably. They enjoy being strong because they worked for it. That is why the mods and admins are more lenient when it comes to Old Gen RPers to try and keep them on the base. With all the new rules it become difficult to enforce them, also some mods dont even know all the rules and will tell you to ask someone else.

If they got rid of all OPness then the system would die immediately since people love power even if it is via internet. I dont see what to get mad about. Despite being OP both Pervy and Mathias dont spam their abilities and enjoy having a fun time. From my point of view your mad that you arent as OP as them when Role Play is just about fun.

 

[Jokey]

I do actually believe that you aren't allowed to have rain and ink/smoke/paper on the same bio. >_>

I've heard from someone that It just got dis-allowed 4/5 days ago since mod's seemed that it was OP, which I actually also thought anyways.

Actually it doesn't even associate with Medical School.
If it did then so many people would have Heat Sensing|Ink. :|
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Yes it has, Gobi got Eight gates with Nexus his approval, all because of him being a Med ninja, as you can see, Typhon just made a biography with Rain and Smoke, it isn't allowed anymore, I actually just seen it getting dis-allowed since, if it's related to sensing abilities then yes, but heat sensing and sensing is a whole different thing that's why Nexus asked Crow after getting the fourth place at the tournament to remove either Rain or Smoke since it would be OP having Smoke, Rain, Crused seal and Sensing, I agree on that and having MS, Rain, Smoke and Heat sensing, but only having Ink, Heat sensing and Gyojin isn't.

Natsu has Sage Mode, ctrl + F Sage. So anybody in medical school can get this? So only the "elite" picked out by Nexus, Nexus' favorites can get this? That's fair? This has everything to do with friends. I have asked Nexus for permission for the same things as others, he turns me down every single time. Although, he's just best buddies with The Pervy Sage and Mathias? That's why they get this? I find it hard to believe that isn't ass kissing. I believe ass kissing is ass kissing. I don't kiss up to anyone and I don't get permissions easily due to most of the mods having some dislike for me. I don't care much though. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right.

Say I have billions of dollars and I manipulate the law so that I pay 10% tax. Yet you make 30 thousand dollars a year and pay 80% tax. Is that right? Even though I manipulated the law so that I pay less then you? No, but is it legal? Yes.

You have to understand that there is to an extent where you can't just blindly follow the rules just because they are there. You have to consider what these rules do to the people they help and hinder.

No he doesn't have Sage mode, the sign is for having toads if you mean '

You must be registered for see images

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Other then that, yes sometimes I think that Pervy Sage can kiss asses, but that doesn't mean that only Pervy sage does that. I must disagree that Mathias kiss-asses, he got it from the beginning, before he even became a sensei/mod, and I don't even think that he is that good befriend with Nexus just like Yard, Minato and Pervy. And as you've stated it by yourself these are '(Breaking the newly established rules as KG bios can't have Ink, Smoke, or Paper)' meaning that it's brand new, maybe just a week or something.

I find this to make perfect sense, And it's a fact that if you ask for permission from a Mod/Admin you're familiar with you have a better chance of getting it, Whether the Mods/Admin are to be blamed for this is arguable since it's not possible to determine whether someone's worthy of giving permission when you have never heard of him.
I suggest that we rely more on restrictions and tests.

Tests? I don't know, that would be exaggerated, Restrictions? Yes.

 

[The Riddlerr]

The only thing I disagree with in regards to Role Play is how the rules are changed which make people weaker overall... Like only having Sage Mode or 8-Gates with no other Primary Ability like a Kekkei Genkai... however if you had it in the older Generations then it's allowed.

There's probably a few other things I could find, but from what I've seen, this seems to be the thing that troubles me most. I started RPing not that long ago and after glancing over some of the "Oldies" bio's... They've got abilities together which are no longer allowed... Essentially giving them OP'd characters.

 

[Kurisutina]

Don't you think I know that? I wouldn't call it corruption though. I don't think that any mods have problems with me, and I would consider some friends, but still. If I ask for something that I shouldn't get it gets denied.
And yeah, I do think that newer members are less fortunate than older members because there were less restrictions then and the older members might get things easier. Is that fair? I think not. Can we do something about it? Unless we poses a time machine, no.
I am not OP'ed at all, look at my bios. The only thing I got permission for was Rain, after I passed the test. But I did work for it.
Sure there are some overpowered abilities that should get restricted some more but good grief, not everything.

It's completely corruption. When you give your friends benefits solely because you have power and they are your friends, that is pure corruption. That is the core of corruption.

There was a man named Andrew Jackson. He was a President of the United States who used a system called the Spoils System. Once he came into office, he kicked everyone in the White House out of their government positions and gave his friends, people with no business in government, positions of power. It's a bit like what's happening here.

People are op'ed because of this spoils system that NarutoBase role-play is based off of. It isn't efficient, it isn't fair, it isn't logical, and it definitely isn't enjoyable for most people that don't want to give into this system of kissing up for permission.

I didn't ask for everything to be restricted. Just abilities that are based on getting permission from a single person or permission from anybody and restricting obviously overpowered abilities.

 

[Kagutsuchi]

Thanks, I really wanted to clear this
Only Prevy Sage and Greg has permission to use my Heat Sensing.

Mathias got it without anyone telling me. Just because He is a Mod ? That is wrong.
This matter was brought into my knowledge Just now, and I hope Nexus will be Kind enough to revoke the permission. As I don't want anyone besides Pervy Sage and Greg to use my ability.

 

[Kurisutina]

I've heard from someone that It just got dis-allowed 4/5 days ago since mod's seemed that it was OP, which I actually also thought anyways.



Yes it has, Gobi got Eight gates with Nexus his approval, all because of him being a Med ninja, as you can see, Typhon just made a biography with Rain and Smoke, it isn't allowed anymore, I actually just seen it getting dis-allowed since, if it's related to sensing abilities then yes, but heat sensing and sensing is a whole different thing that's why Nexus asked Crow after getting the fourth place at the tournament to remove either Rain or Smoke since it would be OP having Smoke, Rain, Crused seal and Sensing, I agree on that and having MS, Rain, Smoke and Heat sensing, but only having Ink, Heat sensing and Gyojin isn't.



No he doesn't have Sage mode, the sign is for having toads if you mean '

You must be registered for see images

'

Other then that, yes sometimes I think that Pervy Sage can kiss asses, but that doesn't mean that only Pervy sage does that. I must disagree that Mathias kiss-asses, he got it from the beginning, before he even became a sensei/mod, and I don't even think that he is that good befriend with Nexus just like Yard, Minato and Pervy. And as you've stated it by yourself these are '(Breaking the newly established rules as KG bios can't have Ink, Smoke, or Paper)' meaning that it's brand new, maybe just a week or something.



Tests? I don't know, that would be exaggerated, Restrictions? Yes.

The Pervy Sage's Natsu bio can control Sage Chakra. Sage Mode is controlling Sage Chakra. See how that works? I don't know how more clear I can be on this point.

Taijutsu: Due to his mastery of all taijutsu, being able to control sage chakra and much more. Natsu's body is able to keep up and react to what his eyes can see, due to being a taijutsu master. This has been seen through out the manga as uchiha have always been able to react to what they can see with their eyes.

 

[Mephistopheles]

The only thing I disagree with in regards to Role Play is how the rules are changed which make people weaker overall... Like only having Sage Mode or 8-Gates with no other Primary Ability like a Kekkei Genkai... however if you had it in the older Generations then it's allowed.

There's probably a few other things I could find, but from what I've seen, this seems to be the thing that troubles me most. I started RPing not that long ago and after glancing over some of the "Oldies" bio's... They've got abilities together which are no longer allowed... Essentially giving them OP'd characters.

That might be true, but you cannot take that away anymore now, can you? Like I said before, unless one of us owns a time machine we cannot do anything about that. But since there are more rp'ers now there need to be more rules or it would be chaos and madness and all. If you could have Sage Mode and EIG you would definitely overpowered, regardless if you are old or new. It is good those rules are there.

It's completely corruption. When you give your friends benefits solely because you have power and they are your friends, that is pure corruption. That is the core of corruption.

There was a man named Andrew Jackson. He was a President of the United States who used a system called the Spoils System. Once he came into office, he kicked everyone in the White House out of their government positions and gave his friends, people with no business in government, positions of power. It's a bit like what's happening here.

People are op'ed because of this spoils system that NarutoBase role-play is based off of. It isn't efficient, it isn't fair, it isn't logical, and it definitely isn't enjoyable for most people that don't want to give into this system of kissing up for permission.

I didn't ask for everything to be restricted. Just abilities that are based on getting permission from a single person or permission from anybody and restricting obviously overpowered abilities.

I can't see that mods, nor admins, would do such a thing. They might, I have no idea, but I can't see it, therefore I am not the one to judge that.
I know what you mean, and yeah it would be nice if there was a rule that said you need to ask even more mods/admins for permission for certain things. It might not be efficient but the amount of people that really became OP'ed because of this is small. They might be OP'ed because they joined in a time where more things where allowed, but not all people whom are friends with mods or anything would become OP'ed because of that. Like in every system, there are flaws, and therefore also in this one, but I don't think this is a 'flaw' that can be dealt with so simply. Of course there is a chance mods would do this, but is it provable? Have you proven it?

 

[Josh]

To be honest, this constitutes as having an issue with a Staff member and should have been handled via PM's. I wonder if you brought this up to Nexus first before blind-siding him and calling him out in the open without giving him a chance to explain? It could have been 2 simple mistakes that, if you pointed out to him, might have been corrected.

We've heard your side of the story, now let's hear Nexus's.

 

[Zoro..]

Taking away from everyone would just cause an uproar and ruin the RP system. Even if people are OP its just for fun anyways. I do not see the massive deal on this. Besides I have never seen them abuse there powers. If you didnt show me this I would have never known about it since Pervy nor Mathy use all their OP stuff in a fight. They use it moderately.

 

[The Riddlerr]

That might be true, but you cannot take that away anymore now, can you? Like I said before, unless one of us owns a time machine we cannot do anything about that. But since there are more rp'ers now there need to be more rules or it would be chaos and madness and all. If you could have Sage Mode and EIG you would definitely overpowered, regardless if you are old or new. It is good those rules are there.

If people are going to role play fairly... Then they all need to follow the same set of rules with the same limitations and restrictions as everyone else. Don't act as if you can't change the rules of the system to effect everyone and they're only changed to effect a few - That's wrong and it's a completely flawed way of thinking.

How exactly is role playing meant to be fun when basically everyone that's a high level is extremely OP and you have no chance of getting anywhere near that level? That's like telling a kid he can have anything from the Candy Store - but it isn't allowed to contain any sugar...

 

[Kurisutina]

then that must mean kaito, mugi and others have to drop their bios now....and they worked hard for that and i am pretty sure they wouldn't like that.

Why should they have exceptions made for them? Why should anybody have exceptions to rules? They are fully capable of updating their biographies to fit the new rules. Is that a big deal? No.

 

['Kurapika]

To be honest, this constitutes as having an issue with a Staff member and should have been handled via PM's. I wonder if you brought this up to Nexus first before blind-siding him and calling him out in the open without giving him a chance to explain? It could have been 2 simple mistakes that, if you pointed out to him, might have been corrected.

We've heard your side of the story, now let's hear Nexus's.

This isn't a bitching thread questioning Nexus's judgment, It's a complaint on how the system works.

 

[Klaus]

I agree and disagree with this if Rp Mods give permission for something I'm pretty sure its no because They are friends or not but because they see its fair and he can use those abilities wisely As for so many abilities in 1 bio I think that should be restricted but this is just my opinion

 

[ReXii]

Why should they be different....Lets see because they are the ones who do all the work so we can rp.
Seriously the base is starting to trouble me everyone always has a problem with something these days...

 

[Zoro..]

This isn't a bitching thread questioning Nexus's judgment, It's a complaint on how the system works.

I dont see the problem with Nexus's judgement. I asked him 100000 times for Fuin (I think Im a friend of his o^o) and he shut me down every time. I eventually got it from winning a tourney. His judgement is fine he might just over look something by accident from time to time which is why Xanthe is mad. Though Xanthe is mad about OP stuff that they never use...

 

[XZA]

Why should they have exceptions made for them? Why should anybody have exceptions to rules? They are fully capable of updating their biographies to fit the new rules. Is that a big deal? No.

They worked hard on NB. if it wasn't for kaito...we would still have an un updated jutsu list...or if it wasn't for kaito and pervy...the ninja world will still probably be dead right now. We also have the speed chart that was created by mugi that cleared up alot of things(and made people more OP >_>). Another reason is that they don't overuse it. Like, i have never really seen mugi use EIG that much or kaito use MS that much unless they were forced to.

 

[House]

I dont see the problem with Nexus's judgement. I asked him 100000 times for Fuin (I think Im a friend of his o^o) and he shut me down every time. I eventually got it from winning a tourney. His judgement is fine he might just over look something by accident from time to time which is why Xanthe is mad. Though Xanthe is mad about OP stuff that they never use...

Its not that they never use it (trust me, dan does but you somehow tend to overlook it for some reason) its that they get away with bios without the restrictions, and most of all, there are multiple examples like how Xanthe had brought up on the first post.

They worked hard on NB. if it wasn't for kaito...we would still have an un updated jutsu list...or if it wasn't for kaito and pervy...the ninja world will still probably be dead right now. We also have the speed chart that was created by mugi that cleared up alot of things(and made people more OP >_>). Another reason is that they don't overuse it. Like, i have never really seen mugi use EIG that much or kaito use MS that much unless they were forced to.

If someone works hard, they should get away with things. Makes sense.

This might be off topic but you do know that some of these OPed rpers have an alt account because they can't find an equal challenger who would be on the same level as them. Being OPed, takes away the fun from the rp for these rpers.

 

[Drizzy]

Why should they be different....Lets see because they are the ones who do all the work so we can rp.
Seriously the base is starting to trouble me everyone always has a problem with something these days...

Having a colored username doesn't mean they should have major privileges over us (in the RP), we're all humans after all.

 

[XZA]

Its not that they never use it (trust me, dan does but you somehow tend to overlook it for some reason) its that they get away with bios without the restrictions, and most of all, there are multiple examples like how Xanthe had brought up on the first post.

Dan does it to have fun in the RP...which is what he hasn't had much of..(until he joined suna xD)