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A lot of this is just hot air, wishful thinking and an monetized incoherent ideal that has been proven to be wrong again and again. Sure there’s nothing wrong with the protagonist being superior to a side character but that has to happen first and it has not or at least not in the manga or anime. No shade but “the power difference is bound to be bigger”... Just let us know when that happens, for all we know Sarada could get just as strong if not stronger then the too but then I would be doing what you are.... writing the manga for the aurthor.
This is the part I love! Arguing with the biased!
Acting on emotion you say? That where that got Boruto.
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Then here came along his equally formidable teammates.
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Agreed, Literally the perfect team! If Boruto can’t single handily destroy a anyone let alone someone who isn’t a high Jonin he’s based on emotion! Sarada and Mitsuki can always protect him!
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How so? Sarada's relevancy is near zero in the source material, are you implying otherwise?
That must be really painful being a Sarada fan, constantly being in denial not thinking that the main character isn't gonna more powerful than a side character receiving 3 pages of relevancy every 5 chapters.
There's literally 0 hint, nothing indicating Sarada being relevant in the future plot-wise and you are thinking that Sarada will be equal or stronger than Boruto who's constantly getting focus, even more recently with the Karma Seal and his rival being introduced who will lead Boruto to get even more power ups (Kara,Karma Seal focus, etc etc).
Thinking otherwise is wishful thinking (as you love to refer).
Regardless, if you want to talk purely about feats then we have to look at the Ao's arc ;
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As you see it's not really up to any debate feat-wise.
There's nothing much to say aside from Jougan and Karma Seal, you know protagonist main powers.
I love how you instantly thought that I was putting Boruto on a pedestal compared to Sarada just by debunking what you mentioned lmao. Tells you something about your inner quiverings.
I wasn't making any comparison between Boruto and Sarada, at times they are both acting emotionally which make perfect sense knowing that they are both inexperienced in combat yet.
Tbf (again) you chose the worst example, you could find multiple scans of Boruto acting by emotion during the Chunin Exam arc but instead.. you choose a moment that has literally zero correlation.
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@Bold Already happened, confirmed by Ao himself.
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You should really step up your game, it's getting boring. Zzz
Indeed, after all they are a team and they are supposed to protect each other.
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Unrelated but that Hazard goal legitimately broke my heart. Amazing goal not gonna lie.. but painful it was against my team XDHow so? Sarada's relevancy is near zero in the source material, are you implying otherwise?
That must be really painful being a Sarada fan, constantly being in denial not thinking that the main character isn't gonna more powerful than a side character receiving 3 pages of relevancy every 5 chapters.
There's literally 0 hint, nothing indicating Sarada being relevant in the future plot-wise and you are thinking that Sarada will be equal or stronger than Boruto who's constantly getting focus, even more recently with the Karma Seal and his rival being introduced who will lead Boruto to get even more power ups (Kara,Karma Seal focus, etc etc).
Thinking otherwise is wishful thinking (as you love to refer).
Regardless, if you want to talk purely about feats then we have to look at the Ao's arc ;
Sarada :
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As you see it's not really up to any debate feat-wise.
There's nothing much to say aside from Jougan and Karma Seal, you know protagonist main powers.
I love how you instantly thought that I was putting Boruto on a pedestal compared to Sarada just by debunking what you mentioned lmao. Tells you something about your inner quiverings.
I wasn't making any comparison between Boruto and Sarada, at times they are both acting emotionally which make perfect sense knowing that they are both inexperienced in combat yet.
Tbf (again) you chose the worst example, you could find multiple scans of Boruto acting by emotion during the Chunin Exam arc but instead.. you choose a moment that has literally zero correlation.
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@Bold Already happened, confirmed by Ao himself.
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You should really step up your game, it's getting boring. Zzz
Indeed, after all they are a team and they are supposed to protect each other.
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Lmao you don’t make any sense lol..
You basically saying that Boruto is stronger and superior in ability then his teammates simply becuase the manga isn’t orbiting around them. Dialogue doesn’t equal superiority in ability, whether or not Sarada is getting more panel time doesn’t mean she’s weaker or going to be. Many time then sasuke yet sasuke was stronger then him for the majority of the manga, up until they became equals for your logic doesn’t compute.
Boruto has not shown him self to be vastly superior then his teammates, even with his much more panel time but you free to theorize. Who knows..
Nah your projecting and assuming, more so not chomprehending anything I’ve said. But from the sound of it, you seem to be at a steadfast opposition to any remark that paints Sarada & Boruto as equals or just as formidable as the other. Sarada has dead ass shitted all over the low expections you’ve set for her by putting Boruto on his ass, preforming in accordance with her team and picking up Borutos slack. This is no different lol
Your in a glass house so I know it must be painful that the side character you bashed and now undermine with relevance has out preformed and preformed in accordance too the main protagonist your elevating based on your own theoy/metric.
XD the hint itself rest in Sarada being a influential motivation in Boruto’s ninja way, if you wouldve taken off your fanboy glasses Boruto pledge himself to ensuring Sarada becomes hokage,. How is that not a perquisite Sarada having nothing to do with Boruto’s development. (2) the second hint you’ve overlooked is the hint wright in your face, Sarada is a main proactive character on the team of the protagonist. (3) Kawaki plans to destroy the ninja world, don’t be dumb enough to think she won’t have a part in protecting it. That is a clear indication she’ll be relevant always even if she’s not on the same panel as Boruto. (3) just becuase the story is now establishing the a antagonists motives and relationship with the protagonist doesn’t mean Sarada is getting weaker nor does it Plato Saradas growth. She is a uchiha! She is destined for glory and power beyond any regular, same for Mitsuki.
Again this is all your own wishful thinkin, you don’t write the manga nor do you have a say in the progression of any one characte. Boruto is the name character fam so of course he’s going to get more focus and yes Boruto is going to receive peers ups through his seal but none of that means he’ll be stronger or weaker then anyone; it defiant doesn’t mean Sarada or mitsuki cant be his equal too. Again Naruto got way more focus and he received power ups through the manga consistently yet sasuke was always just as strong as him, stronger in most cases. Sarada has a Sharningan lol the power ups are gonna come just as equally lol... Agqin wishful thinking doesn’t equate to facts.
Not just one arc but their entirety in the manga/anime.
The only thing this proves is that Sarada player her part against Ao in accordance to how Boruto did; Boruto simply gave the finishing blow because it was apart of their plan. That doesn’t mean he’s superior to her. Let’s flip your logic and make a troll.. Naruto punched Kaguya many times and never damaged her but when sakura punched her kaguya bled and lost a part of her horn. Is she superior to naruto? Nope!
I don’t see that lol, just a whole chapter ago Sarada dropped Boruto on his ass with Er sharnigan and in base form, I say it is up for debate. Boruto has not yet proven to be superior to Sarada at all, she’s shoulder to shoulder with him.
You haven’t debunked anything though and there is no thing, you are putting Boruto on a pedestal and Stevie wonder cant see that.
XD your doing exactly that^ with your logic of “Boruto gets more panel time so there’s not way they will be equal”.. quivering huh? Lol ignorance more so..
I actually never thought you were creating a comparison, your own words doesn’t support that interpretation. You used the “emotional” argument to down play the fact that both of them have eachothers backs on a level playing field,
Your back tracking now because of the counter I gave.
I could’ve chosen that example but I didn’t becuase it didn’t illustrate my point that sounds the narrative of team work or Boruto’s team being just as formidable and able to make up for his shortcomings based on emotion, something he’s done for the mad well.
Lmao your the one who needs to step their game up lol you argument is literally “Boruto has been getting more panel time so Sarada can’t be his equal which makes for a huge power gap. lmao matter fact step to the logout button please lol
Indeed, after all they are a team and they are supposed to protect each other.
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Damn add another L to Hinabae's list.Lmao you don’t make any sense lol..
You basically saying that Boruto is stronger and superior in ability then his teammates simply becuase the manga isn’t orbiting around them. Dialogue doesn’t equal superiority in ability, whether or not Sarada is getting more panel time doesn’t mean she’s weaker or going to be. Many time then sasuke yet sasuke was stronger then him for the majority of the manga, up until they became equals for your logic doesn’t compute.
Boruto has not shown him self to be vastly superior then his teammates, even with his much more panel time but you free to theorize. Who knows..
Nah your projecting and assuming, more so not chomprehending anything I’ve said. But from the sound of it, you seem to be at a steadfast opposition to any remark that paints Sarada & Boruto as equals or just as formidable as the other. Sarada has dead ass shitted all over the low expections you’ve set for her by putting Boruto on his ass, preforming in accordance with her team and picking up Borutos slack. This is no different lol
Your in a glass house so I know it must be painful that the side character you bashed and now undermine with relevance has out preformed and preformed in accordance too the main protagonist your elevating based on your own theoy/metric.
XD the hint itself rest in Sarada being a influential motivation in Boruto’s ninja way, if you wouldve taken off your fanboy glasses Boruto pledge himself to ensuring Sarada becomes hokage,. How is that not a perquisite Sarada having nothing to do with Boruto’s development. (2) the second hint you’ve overlooked is the hint wright in your face, Sarada is a main proactive character on the team of the protagonist. (3) Kawaki plans to destroy the ninja world, don’t be dumb enough to think she won’t have a part in protecting it. That is a clear indication she’ll be relevant always even if she’s not on the same panel as Boruto. (3) just becuase the story is now establishing the a antagonists motives and relationship with the protagonist doesn’t mean Sarada is getting weaker nor does it Plato Saradas growth. She is a uchiha! She is destined for glory and power beyond any regular, same for Mitsuki.
Again this is all your own wishful thinkin, you don’t write the manga nor do you have a say in the progression of any one characte. Boruto is the name character fam so of course he’s going to get more focus and yes Boruto is going to receive peers ups through his seal but none of that means he’ll be stronger or weaker then anyone; it defiant doesn’t mean Sarada or mitsuki cant be his equal too. Again Naruto got way more focus and he received power ups through the manga consistently yet sasuke was always just as strong as him, stronger in most cases. Sarada has a Sharningan lol the power ups are gonna come just as equally lol... Agqin wishful thinking doesn’t equate to facts.
Not just one arc but their entirety in the manga/anime.
The only thing this proves is that Sarada player her part against Ao in accordance to how Boruto did; Boruto simply gave the finishing blow because it was apart of their plan. That doesn’t mean he’s superior to her. Let’s flip your logic and make a troll.. Naruto punched Kaguya many times and never damaged her but when sakura punched her kaguya bled and lost a part of her horn. Is she superior to naruto? Nope!
I don’t see that lol, just a whole chapter ago Sarada dropped Boruto on his ass with Er sharnigan and in base form, I say it is up for debate. Boruto has not yet proven to be superior to Sarada at all, she’s shoulder to shoulder with him.
You haven’t debunked anything though and there is no thing, you are putting Boruto on a pedestal and Stevie wonder cant see that.
XD your doing exactly that^ with your logic of “Boruto gets more panel time so there’s not way they will be equal”.. quivering huh? Lol ignorance more so..
I actually never thought you were creating a comparison, your own words doesn’t support that interpretation. You used the “emotional” argument to down play the fact that both of them have eachothers backs on a level playing field,
Your back tracking now because of the counter I gave.
I could’ve chosen that example but I didn’t becuase it didn’t illustrate my point that sounds the narrative of team work or Boruto’s team being just as formidable and able to make up for his shortcomings based on emotion, something he’s done for the mad well.
Lmao your the one who needs to step their game up lol you argument is literally “Boruto has been getting more panel time so Sarada can’t be his equal which makes for a huge power gap. lmao matter fact step to the logout button please lol
Indeed, after all they are a team and they are supposed to protect each other.
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Everybody saw serious Boruto get negged, it's in denial. It's trying to score points where there aren't any to score. We saw what happened when Boruto charged at Ao he got negged like a fodder. The second time the team distracted Ao so Boruto could use Rasengan. Then finally a drained retired Ao was about to solo Boruto again but Konohamaru saved him, So was also afflicted with PIS.
I wouldn't waste my time with it, it seems to be suffering from severe cognitive regression.
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That it does, do you remeber when Kodachi handed it Ls last year, with Boruto getting negged in cqc by Sarada and when she displayed the Fireball jutsu. Two months of consecutive Ls weren't enough for it, I can't wait for Kodachi(real author) to hand out more.
Beats me, I think he's to insecure. If they're as strong or stronger than somebody with ass pulls and handouts it shits on his fantasies.
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Pretty much.
Did you forgot that the Boruto series is your typical shounen nekketsu? No matter what the protagonist will always be more relevant than the other characters, there's a reason why during the chapter 1, Boruto say "This is my story". The story is centred about him, everything will tie to him, every power ups, literally anything. That's always the same principle with any shounen tekketsu ever ; Dragon Ball,Naruto,Bleach,etc.
I mean you doesn't have to look that far away, just look at the Naruto series ; Part 1 aside, most of the Konoha 11 characters become fodders compared to Naruto and Sasuke. That's why I think, part 1 characterization is the best Kishimoto has given.
Dialogue tie with everything in a litterature, are you alright?
More dialogues equal relevancy, relevancy in a shounen = power ups. First time reading a shounen, uh?
Sasuke got introduced very early as Naruto's rival, in fact it's one of Kishimito's editor that suggested to add a rival to make things way more interesting.
Meanwhile Sarada has never been introduced as such, she is just Boruto's teammate, and developed as potentially future love interest.
While Boruto is an extremely talented shinobi, a lot of his powers (Jougan-Karma Seal) isn't available to him to freely use rn (at least Kodachi is getting there with the Karma Seal) which in my opinion is very impressive, imagine being surrounded by young shinobi with special kkg, techniques etc... and doing this good against them, what I mean is that he isn't left behind, using his raw power. Remind me a lot of Minato tbh.
You really think I care so much about Sarada being so powerful or not, of course she'll be, everyone does know that but what you Sarada fans doesn't understand is that Sarada won't be as strong as the main characters of the series - Kawaki and Boruto.
Regardless, as I said this is just the beginning for Boruto, he barely started to use his seal and the Jougan is STILL nowhere to be seen. Boruto's greatness is bound to happen, it's just a matter of time, and not my expections towards Sarada always remained the same ; she'll probably be the strongest side-character at the end of the series, by far.
I'm reading too many good series right now, I have no time to waste undermining a fictional character, just because some fans they Boruto and Sarada are rival? Nope.
Though I appreciate that some fans are still so dedicated despite the Boruto series being pretty subpar bar the last 2 chapters, perhaps if you think everyday that Sarada will be relevant, maybe that will happen? Who knows...
Yeah so pretty much being as an asset for the protagonist, how original! c'mon it's like that in every shounen ever, your statement is pretty much confirming that Sarada will be the typical shipping bait character.
I don't even think that Sarada being Hokage at the end of the series is set in the stone, perhaps something similar but the flash forward make sure that the shinobi ERA is over. As you love to mention ; are you writing the manga instead of Kodachi?
Romantic development most likely, knowing that Kishimoto himself hinted a romance between these characters and seems like that Kodachi/Studio Pierrot loves the idea since Boruto anime is full of BoruSara moments (even the manga).
She isn't lmao, come again when Sarada get more than 3 pages every 5 chapters then I will take your statement more seriously. Sarada is at best, a side character rn.
Of fucing course, Sarada will obviously take a part at protecting Konoha but she won't be the main focus because the main focus is the Kawaki and Boruto's rivalry, the dynamic that has been hyped since chapter 1.
Deutoraginist*
Respect Kawaki, she's how Sasuke was to Naruto aka Boruto's Rival, he will probably be as much as important as Boruto.
Plot-wise >> power-relevance, if you are happy with Sarada being a strong character without anything else, it's pretty damn sad but again Boruto is to keystone to the story, he will always be more important.
Yeah *special powers*, exactly. Boruto is the character with those special powers, not Sarada nor Mitsuki, Kawaki/Boruto are the one with special seals that ties to Kara who ties to the Otsutsuki, PLOT basically.
I can't really take you seriously if you are acting like such a Sasuke fangirl, aside from early P2, Naruto and Sasuke always has been pretty equal, of course Sasuke was the most versatile, that's his fighting style but that doesn't make him automatically stronger than Naruto. Not even close.
Implying events for 15 chapters could still be taken seriously knowing that they all pretty much improved, I was referring the Ao's fight because they are their latest fight as a team rn.
Yeah no, they did used teamwork during this fight but what got Ao defeated are Boruto's own initiative, there's one chapter dedicated to Boruto being in a 1V1 against Ao. Nuff said!
And now Boruto is on par with Kawaki in taijutsu, a freak who destroyed those puppets like it was nothing meanwhile Team 7 including their sensei struggled to kill them, something they don't even achieved. As I said, characters are always progressing.
That would be hilarious if people still use feats from Boruto P1 when we are well post the flash forward. I can see that coming from Sarada fans, lmao.
A pedestal, are you sure? I never implied that Boruto is emotionless with the perfect fighting mindset. I even agreed that both characters has their flaws when it come to overreact using emotions.
Are you okay? Boruto is the MAIN CHARACTER of this story, is that really hard to understand? How I'm supposed to put him on a pedestal when the story is around him? Zzz
Your back tracking now because of the counter I gave. [/QUOTE]
Not really, we both come to an agreement and then I just stated that the three of them are completing/protecting each other as a team by posting Mitsuki (not even Boruto) saving Sarada from getting killed.
After that you got all insecure thinking that I was downplaying your favorite 12 years old waifu, really sad tbh.
Lmao nope!
You shared scans that don't even showcased teamwork throughout a fight, it's basically Sarada and Mitsuki saving Boruto close to an end of his fight, lol? You are literally backtracking, acting as the angel who's always fair and right when all your intention was trying to trigger me. Hilarious.
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Again all of this is hot air!
Your not the author Hinabae! You have no say in the mangas writing nor does the progression of its characters, all you have is a monetized biased expectations of a character you choose to undermine everyway you can. It’s your opinion that Boruto’s manga is a typical shounen simply because it’s beneficial to the narrative you’ve paraded around on the base of Sarada being a pure love interest that’s weaker then her male counterparts.
Which is odd because Sarada has proven herself to be anything but that; again.. you predictions/assumptions don’t equate to facts or influence the mangas writing. You should know that by know, Sarada’s performance in the manga has given you L after L.
Are you alright? I don’t ever remember contradicting the shared basis dialogue in literature.
Again this logic has no factual basing, it’s simply you theorizing how these characters will progress in power based on your preconceived interpretations (fanfic even). Do you hear yourself? Imagine thinking that more panel time solidifies how strong you will be in comparison to someone else. You gotta do better then that.
And this is why you really aren’t worth arguing with, introduced as a love interest? Not under the guise of rivalry?
Her very first promo of Boruto’s movie likened her to a rival, how many more Ls can you take?
Lmao where in her oneshof can you find “love interest” or anything that alludes to that?
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Lmao I can’t take you serious if your gonna be willingly ignorant lol
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Boruto is serialized in the Shounen Jump, you know a magazine that target young adolescent males. Generally speaking, shounen tends to be more simplified and more straightforward. While seinen tends to be more complex and cerebral.
Regardless, shounen jump manga aren't really well known for their good female characters.. simply because they aren't the target - Shonen = Boy's adventure, spirit, friends, romanticized dreams!
This comes mostly from the vision of gender roles and constant misoginy in Japanese society, since they don't see females as powerful beings, mostly like emotional or weak ones, while seeing males like the powerful and strong ones.
Of course there are minor exceptions, but it's not the norm.
Sarada haven't proved anything since Gaiden, no development whatsoever which is understandable knowing that Sarada has little to no relevancy in the source material and I don't think she'll be the focus anyway since it's all about Kawaki right now.
A good characterization isn't all about who has the best performance, sadly you Sarada fans doesn't seems to understand the basics of a well written character since all you are obsessed about is her "power". That doesn't make any sense knowing that Sarada barely has any memorable moments in the source material plot-wise but I guess a sweep is enough to make you guys happy! I'm glad.
"Dialogue doesn’t equal superiority in ability, whether or not Sarada is getting more panel time doesn’t mean she’s weaker or going to be"
Lmao, yes even more so in a shounen manga, of course the characters with the most screen time will end up being stronger than the others, just look at the difference between the K11 characters.
You wish I was theorizing, that's pretty much factual looking at what demographic the Boruto series is aiming.
And yes of course panel time solidifies how strong you will be in comparison to other characters, it's a battle SHOUNEN manga, what did you expect?
Boruto has the story centred about him, everything will ties to him -> Karma Seal/Otsutsuki/Kara/Jougan/Kawaki, did you expect the protagonist to be equal with a side character?
Hilarious.
I know you'll have posted that very outdated promo, a promo that was released when the Boruto Movie just entered in production, this is irrelevant knowing that the movie never portrayed them as rival. Nuff said.
I don't have to search that long, there's already a tons of your typical shounen ship teasing in the movie/manga and anime lol.
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Facts >>>> irrelevant outdated movie PV!
Insane rivalry, isn't?
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Sarada was never presented as a rival right? She was introduced as purely Love interesting right?
Lol logout, you not the author so go post you “theories” where they belong. As of now there is no superior gap in power, Sarada slept Boruto in cqc with a smile on her face. I’m sorry Hinabae but Sarada isn’t going to be the fodder love interest you want her to be. And words don’t equate to strength as I previously stated. Naruto got way more panel time then Sarada’s father (Sasuke), yet her father was stronger then Naruto for the majority of the series; til now being equals.
So you an stop copying and pasting from Wiki about love interest, antagonist, protagonist, blah blah... and just logout.
I’ve already slept you with your millionth L!
Sarada was never presented as a rival right? She was introduced as purely Love interesting right?
Lol logout, you not the author so go post you “theories” where they belong. As of now there is no superior gap in power, Sarada slept Boruto in cqc with a smile on her face. I’m sorry Hinabae but Sarada isn’t going to be the fodder love interest you want her to be. And words don’t equate to strength as I previously stated. Naruto got way more panel time then Sarada’s father (Sasuke), yet her father was stronger then Naruto for the majority of the series; til now being equals.
So you an stop copying and pasting from Wiki about love interest, antagonist, protagonist, blah blah... and just logout.
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I mean you just have to watch the Boruto movie, there's no a single scene of rivalry between Boruto and Sarada, in fact Sarada was shown to be very supportive towards Boruto.
Pretty much.
Chapter 700 Sarada was already stalking Boruto, nuff said.
Hypocrisy as it's finest. Ultimately you are also theorizing keep that in mind.
Regardless, as much as you hate it, I'm not posting theories. These are facts ; Boruto is the main character and Sarada is a side character. It's not up to debate sadly, Boruto being the MC in a battle shounen equal to him getting all the cool powers.
Keep denying that though but I've read many shounen to say that my opinion >>> yours.
There is.
Sarada has the Jougan? No.
Sarada has the Karma Seal? No.
Of course she doesnt since she isnt a main character, all there is to her character is some recycled uchiha things that everyone are bored about while Boruto/Kawaki/Mitsuki powers are complete mistery.
Regardless, the Ao's fight pretty much debunk your statement since Ao only was focused and thinking about Boruto during the fight, he also admited defeat.
Irrelevant !
Boruto wasnt serious which make sense knowing that the only purpose of the ''fight'' was to test a tool, why Boruto would want to hurt Sarada? Anyway, the latest chapter debunk this since Boruto was on par with Kawaki at CQC.
Not again lmao.
Sarada isnt what Sasuke was to Naruto, are you gonna deny this?
Sasuke was introduced as RIVAL since the beginning of Naruto and their duo is literally the main focus of the series.
Also, Sasuke and Naruto was pretty always equal. Bar Early P1 and Early P2 ofc.
The same cant be said for Sarada and Boruto.
It's the basics of litterature, something you learn in elementary school lmao. Oh well, not everyone are educated the same.