Bolt & Himawari's inheritance compared to Sarada's..

[Mikasa Hagaromo]

I dunno if it's just me but this was Japanese to me

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I can't believe ppl are still trying to use this quote to prove some kind of point. Let's see..Naruto:

- got huge reserves of chakra from his mother which enabled him to make the shadow clone jutsu his signature jutsu and later become a sage
- came up with plans even in the first arc to save Kakshi from Zabuza in collaboration with Sasuke
- mastered rasengan in 1 week...how long did it take Minato? What was that about Kakashi being unable to advance it?
- cut the waterfall in what, like a few days, while it takes a regular person months to do...then created the rasenshuriken-- accomplishing in a matter of days what it takes a normal person years to do

You folks really need to stop paying attention to what Kishi SAYS and base your opinions on what you SEE in the series. THis whole Naruto being a loser underdog is complete and utter bull shit. Who the hell does Kishi think he's kidding?!...well....you guys who believe this I guess

Hyugas are immensly underrated on these forums. Its sad really.

They are indeed.

People need to get back to their Biology classes here .... Traits are not determined by mathematical calculations like 50% Potato +50% Tomato = Tompeto. I depends on the inherited alleles and whether those are dominant or recessive. In which respect Byakugan does seem a recessive trait while the Sharingan always have potential for upgrading to the original. But also it is clear that Bolt and Hima inheirited their father's chakra poweress as evidenced by their whisker marks.

PS Also since when did the Uchiha were known for huge quantities of chakra?

@ bold- in manga it is....actually, in this series, it's more like 90% father genes + mother's eyes

@ red- agree- they're known for the 'intensity' of their chakra, but Itachi's stamina isn't that great and Sasuke's is lower than Naruto's.

 

[neosmith500]

If Kishi wasn't on that bull, a Hyuga would be right on par with Tsunade and chakra control. It seems like an ability that would be natural for that clan.

I agree, they could also potentially heal from a close distance without using their hands by simply expelling chakra from the body an directing it into allies similarly to when neji filled his blindspot with chakra.
They could also blast chakra into an allies body to heal them or increase their chakra usin air palm , we hav seen them fix a dislocated shoulder with a simply tap so the versatility of a skilled hyuga medic would be far above wat sakura could accomplish usin chakra as they could heal while simultaneously increasin chakra flow.

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[FemmeFatale]

Well it's obvious that they have large reserves because of the whiskers.
But really that's about it, maybe some latent abilities from Hinata are inside of them. You really don't need the byakugan for most of the Hyuuga abilities,....but you do need good chakra control and eye sight.

Salada obviosuly has the sharrigan, because her eyes are black.
Chakra comtrol can be inherted, mito-tsunade,
Sakura-salada.
Sakura gene won't really complicate the Uchiha genes, because basically she uchiha by text book definition.
High apptitude for Genjutsu, and a yin element, not to mention smart,quick study, and excells in ninjitsu, genjutsu if she learned it, and taijutsu,

So regardless, salada reserve won't be the problem of she has her mother skill in chakra control.
Part 1 chakra could've possible kept up with naruto because of her perfect chakra control.
So compared to sasuke, salada should be an über uchiha

 

[UzumakiWade]

Bolt Learns Sage Mode and since Salad won't learn anything besides up to 3 tomoe, he wins, not to mention he can merge with ma & pa and they can break him out of genjutsu if he gets caught.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

If anything, their inheritance is greater. They have a transmigrant of Ashura, with Rikkudo powers, which makes his chakra superior to any full-blooded senju/Uzamaki. And they have Hinata, who has Haruma chakra. They have the inheritance of Ashura and Haruma. Whereas Sarada just has the inheritance of Indra. There's the possibility that Bolt and Himawari will activate a new and unique dojutsu. We've seen this through the families. There was Kaguya with the Rinne Sharingan, then Hagoromo with the rinnegan, and then Indra with the sharingan, and then Sasuke's own unique rinnegan. We may see a byakugan variant much like how Hagoromo's rinnegan was a variant of his mother's 3rd eye.

 

[BAS3D]

Bolt Learns Sage Mode and since Salad won't learn anything besides up to 3 tomoe, he wins, not to mention he can merge with ma & pa and they can break him out of genjutsu if he gets caught.

Sage mode takes years to master in which most people fail, Naruto achieved it because of the help of his shadow clones and the large chakra supply given by kurama U_U

Wouldn't have too much hope, if he can learn it then anyone basically can, he isn't special when it comes to learning techniques

 

[UzumakiWade]

Sage mode takes years to master in which most people fail, Naruto achieved it because of the help of his shadow clones and the large chakra supply given by kurama U_U

Wouldn't have too much hope, if he can learn it then anyone basically can, he isn't special when it comes to learning techniques

Bolt has only appeared for one chapter and you say that anything he learns anyone else can? Naruto is currently the only alive holder of the frog summon scroll too, he chooses who he lets sign it, obviously who would he let sign it more? Random strangers or his own son? Furthermore, what makes you think Bolt doesn't have huge reserves? Just because he doesn't have bijuu? Minato learned Sage Mode before he had bijuu, and i don't recall a clan such as the "namikaze" clan having been famous for huge chakra reserves. Naruto also only needed shadow clones so that he didn't have to merge with ma and pa and instead just had his clones gather the nature energy. Bolt doesn't have the burden of a bijuu and so he can get sage mode.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Sage mode takes years to master in which most people fail, Naruto achieved it because of the help of his shadow clones and the large chakra supply given by kurama U_U

Wouldn't have too much hope, if he can learn it then anyone basically can, he isn't special when it comes to learning techniques

Bolt has only appeared for one chapter and you say that anything he learns anyone else can? Naruto is currently the only alive holder of the frog summon scroll too, he chooses who he lets sign it, obviously who would he let sign it more? Random strangers or his own son? Furthermore, what makes you think Bolt doesn't have huge reserves? Just because he doesn't have bijuu? Minato learned Sage Mode before he had bijuu, and i don't recall a clan such as the "namikaze" clan having been famous for huge chakra reserves. Naruto also only needed shadow clones so that he didn't have to merge with ma and pa and instead just had his clones gather the nature energy. Bolt doesn't have the burden of a bijuu and so he can get sage mode.

 

[closecombat1254]

Will Bolt and Himawari be granted large reserves/chakra prowless equal to Sarada?

Sadara is literally 50% Uchiha (we know they have outstanding reserves) while Naruto's are children 25% Uzumaki and have a full blooded Hyuga as a mother (not sure if the Hyugas had large reserves). So help me out.

This man couldn't go to sentence before he started lieing wow uchia fan

 

[Melanin]

It was confirmed that Naruto inherited 100% Kushina's blood. u_u

Where's his red hair?

 

[Zlatán]

If anything, their inheritance is greater. They have a transmigrant of Ashura, with Rikkudo powers, which makes his chakra superior to any full-blooded senju/Uzamaki. And they have Hinata, who has Haruma chakra. They have the inheritance of Ashura and Haruma. Whereas Sarada just has the inheritance of Indra. There's the possibility that Bolt and Himawari will activate a new and unique dojutsu. We've seen this through the families. There was Kaguya with the Rinne Sharingan, then Hagoromo with the rinnegan, and then Indra with the sharingan, and then Sasuke's own unique rinnegan. We may see a byakugan variant much like how Hagoromo's rinnegan was a variant of his mother's 3rd eye.

I hope you reread what you just wrote :|

The hyuuga clan isn't even related to Hamura, Hamura most likely gave Hinata chakra to destory the device thats pushing the moon towards the earth, and lost it straight after

And according to your dumb logic, Tsunade also has Ashura chakra since she's the granddaughter of Hashirama who also was the reincarnation of Ashura, the transmigrant of both Indra and Ashura move to someone else when the current successor dies, they don't stay nor pass on into the offspring

They're all fodder kids who are born in peaceful times not kids of Kaguya

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Sage mode takes years to master in which most people fail, Naruto achieved it because of the help of his shadow clones and the large chakra supply given by kurama U_U

Wouldn't have too much hope, if he can learn it then anyone basically can, he isn't special when it comes to learning techniques

Um, bullcrap. Kurama was not responsible for Naruto's SM success. Kurama put out all stops to prevent him from learning it.

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It was Naruto's naturally large reserves that enabled him to do so. This couldn't be more evident as another Ashura transmigrant also learned SM. SM is far more likely to be attributed to being an Ashura transmigrant. Being a jin doesn't give you larger reserves if you're not using the biju. What happens is that the leaking chakra from the biju get converted to the jin's chakra in order to replenish the chakra, not give him more.

 

[BAS3D]

Bolt has only appeared for one chapter and you say that anything he learns anyone else can? Naruto is currently the only alive holder of the frog summon scroll too, he chooses who he lets sign it, obviously who would he let sign it more? Random strangers or his own son? Furthermore, what makes you think Bolt doesn't have huge reserves? Just because he doesn't have bijuu? Minato learned Sage Mode before he had bijuu, and i don't recall a clan such as the "namikaze" clan having been famous for huge chakra reserves. Naruto also only needed shadow clones so that he didn't have to merge with ma and pa and instead just had his clones gather the nature energy. Bolt doesn't have the burden of a bijuu and so he can get sage mode.

Um, bullcrap. Kurama was not responsible for Naruto's SM success. Kurama put out all stops to prevent him from learning it.

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It was Naruto's naturally large reserves that enabled him to do so. This couldn't be more evident as another Ashura transmigrant also learned SM. SM is far more likely to be attributed to being an Ashura transmigrant. Being a jin doesn't give you larger reserves if you're not using the biju. What happens is that the leaking chakra from the biju get converted to the jin's chakra in order to replenish the chakra, not give him more.

Ashura transmigrant doesn't pass on into the successors children, it moves into a entire new body onces the successor dies

Kurama allowed Naruto to have enough chakra to produce hundreds of clones to decrease the time to master sage mode otherwise it would have taken years to master just like Jiraiya and Minato

Bolt is still young he won't spend years training when its not needed, people need to stop overrating bolt and sarada, Naruto and Sasuke are the last shinobi's having godlike power like that, their children won't even achieve 25% of it

 

[UzumakiWade]

Ashura transmigrant doesn't pass on into the successors children, it moves into a entire new body onces the successor dies

Wasn't talking about the ashura transmigrant crap but since your probably talking to the other guy ill ignore this point.

Kurama allowed Naruto to have enough chakra to produce hundreds of clones to decrease the time to master sage mode otherwise it would have taken years to master just like Jiraiya and Minato

Proof? Also, im pretty sure Bolt could make a couple few clones to help him too. Where does it say it took Minato a few years to master?

Bolt is still young he won't spend years training when its not needed, people need to stop overrating bolt and sarada, Naruto and Sasuke are the last shinobi's having godlike power like that, their children won't even achieve 25% of it

Sage Mode is not inherited jutsu, its something your train for, Show me a scan saying that it takes years to train for Sage Mode or your point is moot, why wouldn't bolt want to train for SM? Its a powerful form, Bolt has just as much of a chance of unlocking SM as Salad has for sharingan.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Ashura transmigrant doesn't pass on into the successors children, it moves into a entire new body onces the successor dies

Wasn't talking about the ashura transmigrant crap but since your probably talking to the other guy ill ignore this point.

Kurama allowed Naruto to have enough chakra to produce hundreds of clones to decrease the time to master sage mode otherwise it would have taken years to master just like Jiraiya and Minato

Proof? Also, im pretty sure Bolt could make a couple few clones to help him too. Where does it say it took Minato a few years to master?

Bolt is still young he won't spend years training when its not needed, people need to stop overrating bolt and sarada, Naruto and Sasuke are the last shinobi's having godlike power like that, their children won't even achieve 25% of it

Sage Mode is not inherited jutsu, its something your train for, Show me a scan saying that it takes years to train for Sage Mode or your point is moot, why wouldn't bolt want to train for SM? Its a powerful form, Bolt has just as much of a chance of unlocking SM as Salad has for sharingan.

 

[take it easy]

Where's his red hair?

Special chakra from his mother...

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I hope you reread what you just wrote :|

The hyuuga clan isn't even related to Hamura, Hamura most likely gave Hinata chakra to destory the device thats pushing the moon towards the earth, and lost it straight after

And according to your dumb logic, Tsunade also has Ashura chakra since she's the granddaughter of Hashirama who also was the reincarnation of Ashura, the transmigrant of both Indra and Ashura move to someone else when the current successor dies, they don't stay nor pass on into the offspring

They're all fodder kids who are born in peaceful times not kids of Kaguya

I hope you rethink your entire perspective. First of all, I'd argue that those that say that they aren't related are pushing it. Second, even pretending there isn't a lineage, it doesn't change the fact that the chakra is now Hinata's. Unless you're suggesting Hinata suddenly pulled biju-level chakra out of her rear end while talking about Haruma's chakra. (recharging Naruto's KCM)


Good gosh your attempt at a counter argument is horrible! The chakra of the transmigrants diffuse over multiple generations, which is why the clan's aren't all God-tier. You're comparing a granddaughter of an Ashura transmigrant, who could easily take after someone outside of the family (hence, why she has bad reserves compared to both of her grandparents), to the direct children of an Ashura transmigrant+Rikkudo chakra and someone with Haruma chakra. Not only that, but Naruto has the Rikkudo Sejutsu of Hagoromo, which accounts for some yin and yang. As seen previously with children of Rikkudo-empowered people (Hagoromo to Ashura and Indra), Rikkudo chakra diffuses into the children of said Rikkudo user. One child is likely to have yin or yang. Regardles of whatever logic you use, Naruto has Rikkudo chakra, and Rikkudo chakra does get inherited (albeit diffused). You'd be a fool to deny this.


Also, your last statement. What the heck kind of logic is this? That has nothing to do with inheritance.

 

[Melanin]

Special chakra from his mother...

You said it was 100% confirmed that he was full Uzumaki. Is he? Didn't ask about his chakra.

 

[closecombat1254]

Naruto have large because both minato(because u need large to learn sage mode fact) and his mom who is uzumaki both have dominant large charka basically
CC And as gene go's C beat lil c

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Ashura transmigrant doesn't pass on into the successors children, it moves into a entire new body onces the successor dies

Kurama allowed Naruto to have enough chakra to produce hundreds of clones to decrease the time to master sage mode otherwise it would have taken years to master just like Jiraiya and Minato

Bolt is still young he won't spend years training when its not needed, people need to stop overrating bolt and sarada, Naruto and Sasuke are the last shinobi's having godlike power like that, their children won't even achieve 25% of it

1. And yet, Hashirama still has the powerful abilities he had in life as an edo, when he lost Ashura's chakra. No, you're wrong. The powerful chakra received by the transmigration does not go away.


2. This settles it, we're not reading the same manga. Cause guess what? Naruto only used 4 clones. It took like, a week tops? So, it took at most, the normal time of 4 weeks to master with no clones. Please stop attributing everything to Kurama.


3. And yet....................He's the MC of the next series. Yet you're saying he won't develop. Yeah, fat chance.