BM Naruto VS Killer Bee

[Dark Riku]

It can go either way.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

B was wanking Kurama's strength yet Killer B ties with BM Naruto? Lmao, what the hell?

I don't think you have to be entirely below someone to give hype or a compliment. Remember he was his teacher.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't think you have to be entirely below someone to give hype or a compliment. Remember he was his teacher.

If he's surprised at how much power Kurama has, then its above his.

 

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They said their chakras were incredible, and in the context of the statement it was being compared to the other shinobi that were being sensed on the battlefied.

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and that's after they experienced the power of the bijuu paths and

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It's clear as day that BM Naruto's chakra is on another level than Bee's.

When Bee accessed his bijuu mode and Naruto accessed his BM,

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I bet you wouldn't even believe BM Naruto had far more chakra and was far more powerful than Bee if Kishi himself told you that. Well, that's not entirely true since I'm pretty sure you do believe that BM Naruto is far more powerful than Bee, you simply don't want that to be true, and therefore are forced to make such ridiculous claims and ignore such blatant statements and implications.

I see you believe Kinkaku and Ginkaku have larger Chakra than Hachibi. I should have known not to take you serious.

Then what do you base the TBB being WAY bigger, and to the point where its at least twice the size of the MAXIMUM sized bijuudama that naruto can produce with his own chakras?

A clear post that contradicts you. You previously said that Naruto's massive TBB was only to equal the force of the other Bijuu's, and now you say this is the maximum TBB he can, despite the evidence is not shown. Also, you're the one who is going to need to base an evidence on the TBB made by Bee & Naruto is not bigger than the previous one. The burden of proof is on you.

Naruto and Bee were putting their maximum chakra into the TBB to make it as large as it can possibly be. Why in the world would they both have to contribute evenly to the sphere? What stops naruto from putting 80% into it while Bee puts 20%?
How did you conclude the Kyuubi had almost all of its chakra sucked? How did you conclude that even while it's in that state, the hachibi had more chakra than it? Finally, it doesn't even matter if Kurama didn't have anywhere near his full reserves as bijuus can't put their entire chakra reserves into a bijuudama proven when BM Naruto and the hachibi are explicitly stated to create their maximum bijuudama, yet they obviously still have a ton of chakra left.

And what stops from Naruto and Bee balancing the Chakra of the TBB? You just loving licking Naruto's nuts. It's called teamwork, and Bee tells Naruto to charge it to the max, meaning both of them were charging the TBB at max at the same time. Oh my god, this guy's stupidity is killing me. Kurama literally turned skinny, and had its Chakra ripped off and needed to eat on Naruto's Chakra to gain some weight; yet you're saying it had bigger Chakra than Hachibi. I can't deal with tard. Charge it to the max in the context, basically refers to the full Chakra transmitted to the ball. Not their actual Chakra.

Kakashi warped bee before the laser even hit bee, so the argument about an explosion obscuring his view is silly. The top panel doesn't show the hachibi's tail because it's zoomed into Naruto. The panel where the tail is shown is zoomed further out enough so that the tail is included. Based on what did Gai just notice that Kakashi had warped the Hachibi? Next, you've conceded that the hachibi didn't get hit by the laser based on the fact that the tentacle would not have been cut off, rather it would have been vaporized had it been hit.

It's not silly view if you can't counter logically, and knowing your dumb ass, you'll come up with retarded views on it. Kakashi isn't going to see through a pile of dust made by the laser of the Juubi. It's not the Byakugan. It can't see through stuff. ''Next'' isn't a counter. Gai was standing right next to Kakashi, and he just noticed he wrapped Hachibi. And then you ignore the top panel of Bee's tail not seeing with Naruto, but in the middle panel where Bee's tail is with Naruto. So that would mean Kakashi Kamui'ed it from that time-span. Did the other tails of Naruto disappear as well? No, so your point.

Don't waste my time. The hachibi's hands CAUGHT the bijuudama, however when the thing actually exploded, it eradicated what was left of the hachibi. The hachibi was also heavily wounded by its own bijuudama, yet suffered almost no noticable damage from the juubi's laser. Bee never said he could only access little of his power inside naruto's mind, he said that he couldn't access his full powers. So its inescapable, the only way that your assertion that the hachibi got hit by the juubi's laser could possibly be true is if you have conclude that the hachibi's bijuudama >>>>>>>> Juubi's laser. Do you believe that? If not, then the hachibi obviously did not get hit by the juubi's laser.

What's quite funny, is the explosion's radius only covered Hachibi's head. Speaks the might of Hachibi's durability to contain that much TBB. So I guess Hachibi's hands are more durable than the main body, then? And the only reason that it vaporized Hachibi's face was because it was the last offer he can give to Naruto. Bee used partial transformation inside Naruto's mind, and that is only little of Hachibi's power; so not even sure what you're strawing for. Not really, because Hachibi's tails were ripped off as well from the Juubi: [

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I reached my limit (ability to fight).

I can see your English is bad, and you have no reading comprehension at all. Hachibi reached its limits to fight, but after 3 chapters, it was already able to push back the Juubi's TBB? [

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Oh so ink clones can use V1 and V2 now? AND they can use bijuudamas? Please oh please show me where they've been shown or even implied to be capable of such? Those V2, bijuudama blasting ink clones would have really come in handy against the V2 jinchuriki paths, or basically any fight that Bee has ever been in.

So Naruto can create Bunshin and have them use listed Jutsu in BM? I'm going to need scans for that. It would have came handy against the Jinchuuriki. Lol

Bijuudamas don't use all of a bijuu's chakra, but the maximum size of a dama a bijuu is capable of making is obviously proportional to the power of that bijuu. The whole part about the 8 beasts was that it was explicitly stated that Yang kurama had to be sealed in last so that the other 8 beast's chakra could balance his own out, and therefore he has incomparably more chakra to any of the individual 8 lower beasts. Since when were the 5 bijuus that BM Naruto faced not at full power?

@Bold: Akatsuki never explained why Kurama should be last, and I'm not going to listen to your bull-crap nonsense fan-fic, either.
@Underlined: Bijuu were only having portion of their Chakra. [

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] The rods is the medium used to transmit their Chakra to the Jinchuuriki. Their actual Chakra is inside the Gedo Mazo, and hence why Obito can pull them back and even use the remaining Chakra to resurrect the Juubi. So they weren't at full power, otherwise the Chakra would disappear.

As for the top, Hachibi was simply surprised that Naruto can pull of the TBB. Bee said that it's a real battle now, and not training field.

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That's my last reply to you. The amount of BS you spewed, is literally beyond a fanboy. This is the BS is what's telling me to ignore you:

''Kurama that had most of its Chakra ripped off from Naruto, is bigger than Hachibi's.''
''Naruto contributed 80% of the TBB, while Bee was using 20%.''

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

If he's surprised at how much power Kurama has, then its above his.

I think it just means he was underrating Naruto. He is a bit of a dumbass and they had just met.

 

[lanakui8]

I see you believe Kinkaku and Ginkaku have larger Chakra than Hachibi. I should have known not to take you serious.

Concession accepted, as an ignored argument is a conceded one. So now that you've conceded that BM Naruto >>> Bee, lets move on.

A clear post that contradicts you. You previously said that Naruto's massive TBB was only to equal the force of the other Bijuu's, and now you say this is the maximum TBB he can, despite the evidence is not shown. Also, you're the one who is going to need to base an evidence on the TBB made by Bee & Naruto is not bigger than the previous one. The burden of proof is on you.

The burden of proof is absolutely not on me. You're the one who's asserting that Bee can use a TBB just as powerful as BM Naruto. We know Naruto's Maximum TBB is greater than the one he made against neo pain, therefore the combined bijuudama would have to AT LEAST be twice the size of the one Naruto used against Pain if Bee added half the chakra to it.

And what stops from Naruto and Bee balancing the Chakra of the TBB? You just loving licking Naruto's nuts. It's called teamwork, and Bee tells Naruto to charge it to the max, meaning both of them were charging the TBB at max at the same time. Oh my god, this guy's stupidity is killing me. Kurama literally turned skinny, and had its Chakra ripped off and needed to eat on Naruto's Chakra to gain some weight; yet you're saying it had bigger Chakra than Hachibi. I can't deal with tard. Charge it to the max in the context, basically refers to the full Chakra transmitted to the ball. Not their actual Chakra.

So you've basically given zero evidence that Bee and Naruto both putting the maximum chakra they could into the TBB = they were both putting equal amounts of chakra into the TBB. That's a concession on your part as that was literally the only thing you were basing the argument that Bee's max TBB = Naruto's max TBB. Why does skinny Yang Kurama have less chakra than the hachibi when all 8 bijuu have to be sealed into GM in order to balance out Yang Kurama's full chakra reserves?

It's not silly view if you can't counter logically, and knowing your dumb ass, you'll come up with retarded views on it. Kakashi isn't going to see through a pile of dust made by the laser of the Juubi. It's not the Byakugan. It can't see through stuff. ''Next'' isn't a counter. Gai was standing right next to Kakashi, and he just noticed he wrapped Hachibi. And then you ignore the top panel of Bee's tail not seeing with Naruto, but in the middle panel where Bee's tail is with Naruto. So that would mean Kakashi Kamui'ed it from that time-span. Did the other tails of Naruto disappear as well? No, so your point.

Why in the world would the laser be obscuring Kakashi's view with dust if he warps Bee before the laser even hits him? Why would the laser obscure kakashi's vision with a pile of dust if it's hitting Bee in the front and Kakashi is looking at the back of the hachibi? Why would the laser obscure kakashi's vision with a pile of dust when we are shown

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Gai didn't just notice he warped he hachibi, he just noticed what BM Naruto pulled off which was throwing Kakashi at Madara. You've also conceded this argument since you've completely ignored the part where I stated the tail is only visible after the camera view is zoomed out enough to show it, the only reason it isn't visible in the top panel is because the camera view is closer to BM Naruto and therefore doesn't include the tail. You've also ignored the tentacle being cut off rather than disintegrated by the laser, and therefore have conceded this point on those grounds as well.

You've also completely ignored the fact that you're stance is logically impossible since if the hachibi did take the juubi's laser and was in front of BM Naruto, then BM Naruto would have sustained zero damage from the blast. Yet BM Naruto loses six of his tails while the hachibi only gets one of them cut off. So this is once again 100% proof that what you are asserting is literally impossible.

What's quite funny, is the explosion's radius only covered Hachibi's head. Speaks the might of Hachibi's durability to contain that much TBB. So I guess Hachibi's hands are more durable than the main body, then? And the only reason that it vaporized Hachibi's face was because it was the last offer he can give to Naruto. Bee used partial transformation inside Naruto's mind, and that is only little of Hachibi's power; so not even sure what you're strawing for. Not really, because Hachibi's tails were ripped off as well from the Juubi: [

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What are you talking about? The hachibi contained the explosion with his remaining power, we don't know how much power that was or how it would translate to the real hachibi taking that hit. However we do know that the real hachibi gets heavily damaged by its own bijuudama to the point where it has to retreat.

This is another concession on your part as you've blatantly ignored the Juubi's laser merely cutting off one of hte hachibi's tails while not damaging any of the others while the hachibi's own TBB heavily damages the hachibi and makes him bleed profusely. Therefore once again, you either concede this point or have to believe that the hachibi's TBB >>>>>>>>>> Juubi's laser. Do you believe that?

I can see your English is bad, and you have no reading comprehension at all. Hachibi reached its limits to fight, but after 3 chapters, it was already able to push back the Juubi's TBB? [

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How in the world is that some kind of counterargument? The hachibi has massive regenerating ability, it needed to rest and recooperate from the bijuudama for three chapters before it was capable of fighting again, how in the world is that hard to understand? Do you believe that the hachibi could have continued to fight after getting hit by its own bijuudama if it was fresh? How much damage did the hachibi's bijuudama do it itself?

So Naruto can create Bunshin and have them use listed Jutsu in BM? I'm going to need scans for that. It would have came handy against the Jinchuuriki. Lol

Of course he can, just one of his

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rasengan planet, and could form a

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now that naruto got the 8:2 black to white chakra ratio down.

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Now show me bee's ink clones being able to use V1, V2 and bijuudamas.

@Bold: Akatsuki never explained why Kurama should be last, and I'm not going to listen to your bull-crap nonsense fan-fic, either.

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@Underlined: Bijuu were only having portion of their Chakra. [

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] The rods is the medium used to transmit their Chakra to the Jinchuuriki. Their actual Chakra is inside the Gedo Mazo, and hence why Obito can pull them back and even use the remaining Chakra to resurrect the Juubi. So they weren't at full power, otherwise the Chakra would disappear.

Why would their chakra disappear from the mazou if they weren't at full power? Does the hachibi disappear from within bee when Bee uses the hachibi's full power? Does Kurama disappear from within Naruto when Naruto uses Kurama's full power? Obviously not. Nothing implies that they were not at full power.

As for the top, Hachibi was simply surprised that Naruto can pull of the TBB. Bee said that it's a real battle now, and not training field.

So once again, you are literally saying that Bee is not amazed at how POWERFUL naruto's TBB is when he explicitly comments on the scale and the kyuubi's power when he states:

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Concession accepted, anyone with even a shred of honesty or objectivity would agree that bee is commenting on the power of the TBB, not naruto's mere ability to use a bijuudama.

That's my last reply to you. The amount of BS you spewed, is literally beyond a fanboy. This is the BS is what's telling me to ignore you:

''Kurama that had most of its Chakra ripped off from Naruto, is bigger than Hachibi's.''
''Naruto contributed 80% of the TBB, while Bee was using 20%.''

I didn't even assert the last one as true, I just used it as an example in order to ask you why they couldn't have contributed uneven amounts of chakra to the TBB.

Anyways, you got slaughtered kid. I'd like everyone to view this thread and just see what happens when someone without a shred of integrity on their part stoops to the lowest of lows in order to assert their own fanboy ridden agenda.

Here's a list of ridiculous things that you've asserted or have to necessarily believe to be true in order for your stance to work:

1) The hachibi took the juubi's laser, yet it only lost a tentacle while BM Naruto (who was behind the hachibi and therefore would not have been hit by the laser) for some reason lost 6 of its tails.

2) despite the hachibi only losing a tail to the Juubi's laser while BM Naruto lost 6, the hachibi is for some reason just as durable as BM Naruto.

3) Because Bee and BM Naruto combined their powers into one huge TBB, Bee must have put in an equal amount of power to what BM Naruto put in and therefore Bee can make a bijuudama just as powerful as BM Naruto's despite

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4) Bee can make an army of ink clones that can use V1, V2, and can fire off bijuudamas.

5) Bee's bijuudama is far more powerful than the Juubi's laser since it heavily damaged his body, while Bee was practically unscathed by the juubi's laser.

I can probably pull up a lot more, but anyone who's viewing or discussion should get the idea by now. I accept your concession on this thread, BM Naruto stomps Bee.

 

[Touken]

Bee stomps KCM Naruto. Bijuu Bombs end this.

 

[xcoyote]

KCM Naruto can beat KB.

 

[A v i]

Bee wins this.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Bee stomps KCM Naruto. Bijuu Bombs end this.

Bee wins this.

He clearly says the mode when he was best friends with Kurama which is BM so how is he losing?

 

[A v i]

He clearly says the mode when he was best friends with Kurama which is BM so how is he losing?

I think you misunderstood his point.

Wait no, I meant KM- whichever one is before he makes best buddies with Kurama

 

[TRE MERCER]

I think you misunderstood his point.

Did you edit that l0l. Ok then Bee wins.