BM Naruto VS Killer Bee

[Conspirator.]

I see BM in the title so I'm going with BM Naruto. Where is KCM Naruto coming from?

If you actually took the time to read the comments, you would know that the OP meant to write KCM naruto, but made a mistake.

 

[V h o]

Here :

He should update the thread then.

KCM med-high difficulty though.

If you actually took the time to read the comments, you would know that the OP meant to write KCM naruto, but made a mistake.

Took the time, lol you must be joking. I hardly want to find manga scans to prove my points.

 

[lanakui8]

He did survive his own Bijuu Dama though.

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Naruto, on the other hand isn't surviving one of those.

Naruto doesn't even have to land something like that on Bee.

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That's a technique that

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Clone spam + Fuuton rasenshuriken spam > Bee.

And bee would never land a direct bijuudama on KCM Naruto

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something the slower Sandaime raikage could dodge at point blank even from behind.

Plus, KCM Chou oodama FRS > a normal bijuudama.

 

[Airi]

He did survive his own Bijuu Dama though.

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Naruto, on the other hand isn't surviving one of those.

That Bijuudama one-shot the 8-tails actually, and Killer Bee ended up withdrawing Bijuu transformation IIRC u.u

 

[RustledJimmies]

That Bijuudama one-shot the 8-tails actually, and Killer Bee ended up withdrawing Bijuu transformation IIRC u.u

It didn't kill him though, just saying.

 

[Airi]

It didn't kill him though, just saying.

Do you think Killer Bee can land a Bijuudama on KCM Naruto? I really wanna know.

 

[Maly]

BM Naruto low - mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto doesn't even have to land something like that on Bee.

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That's a technique that

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Clone spam + Fuuton rasenshuriken spam > Bee.

And bee would never land a direct bijuudama on KCM Naruto

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something the slower Sandaime raikage could dodge at point blank even from behind.

Plus, KCM Chou oodama FRS > a normal bijuudama.

This right here. B doesn't stand a chance.

 

[Bronze]

It becomes a draw ever since Bee has the feat of creating a massive TBB.

 

[TRE MERCER]

It becomes a draw ever since Bee has the feat of creating a massive TBB.

Please stop.

 

[Bronze]

Please stop.

Bee contributed half of the Chakra used to create this

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. It's far bigger than what the 5 Bijuu's created. So yes, Bee is capable of such feat.

 

[lanakui8]

Bee contributed half of the Chakra used to create this

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. It's far bigger than what the 5 Bijuu's created. So yes, Bee is capable of such feat.

Where in the world did you get bee contributed half of the chakra to that TBB? How is that TBB FAR bigger than

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Not only that, but Naruto created

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yet he took half a chapter to charge the combined one, he obviously wasn't putting anywhere near his maximum power into the one against the 5 bijuu, he was only trying to equal there's.

Yang Kurama had so much chakra that the other 8 bijuu had to be sealed first in order to balance its chakra out and

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Even the shinobi alliance HQ were

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The evidence is completely one-sided, BM Naruto's max bijuudama >>> Hachibi's max bijuudama.


And then there's the fact that BM Naruto's durability >>> B's considering naruto can block the juubi's laser while bee gets taken out by a single bijuudama. Speed, strength, reactions, ability to make kagebunshins who can also fire off nukes while the original fights, extendable chakra arms, repairable cloak, BM Naruto stomps the heck out of bee.

 

[Bronze]

Where in the world did you get bee contributed half of the chakra to that TBB?

Because it's common sense.

 

[lanakui8]

Because it's common sense.

Stating that it's common sense is just an assertion, back that assertion up with an argument else it's completely worthless. I could claim my stance is common sense, does that mean my stance is actually common sense? Plus something being 'common sense' means jack squat about its truth as truth is not determined by the beliefs of people but rather by the objective evidence that people base those beliefs on. There was a time when the world being flat was common sense, does that actually mean the world was flat at that time? Obviously not.

How is that TBB FAR bigger than

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Not only that, but Naruto created

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yet he took half a chapter to charge the combined one, he obviously wasn't putting anywhere near his maximum power into the one against the 5 bijuu, he was only trying to equal there's.

Yang Kurama had so much chakra that the other 8 bijuu had to be sealed first in order to balance its chakra out and

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Even the shinobi alliance HQ were

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while they

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The evidence is completely one-sided, BM Naruto's max bijuudama >>> Hachibi's max bijuudama.


And then there's the fact that BM Naruto's durability >>> B's considering naruto can block the juubi's laser while bee gets taken out by a single bijuudama. Speed, strength, reactions, ability to make kagebunshins who can also fire off nukes while the original fights, extendable chakra arms, repairable cloak, BM Naruto stomps the heck out of bee.

 

[Bronze]

Where in the world did you get bee contributed half of the chakra to that TBB? How is that TBB FAR bigger than

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Not only that, but Naruto created

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yet he took half a chapter to charge the combined one, he obviously wasn't putting anywhere near his maximum power into the one against the 5 bijuu, he was only trying to equal there's.

Yang Kurama had so much chakra that the other 8 bijuu had to be sealed first in order to balance its chakra out and

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Even the shinobi alliance HQ were

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while they

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The evidence is completely one-sided, BM Naruto's max bijuudama >>> Hachibi's max bijuudama.


And then there's the fact that BM Naruto's durability >>> B's considering naruto can block the juubi's laser while bee gets taken out by a single bijuudama. Speed, strength, reactions, ability to make kagebunshins who can also fire off nukes while the original fights, extendable chakra arms, repairable cloak, BM Naruto stomps the heck out of bee.

I don't care about what the HQ thinks. I guess Kinkaku and Ginkaku have greater Chakra than Bee, because HQ said those two have unbelievable Chakra. Their sensory means nothing. So don't mention it.

The TBB created by the 5 Bijuu were 5 times the size of them. [

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] The size of the TBB that Naruto and Bee created were much bigger, and their explosion indicates that. Bee was contributing half of the Chakra, so he can replicate what Naruto did.

Wrong. Hachibi tanked the Juubi's TBB before Kakashi wrapped it. [

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] The motion line in the last panel of the TBB aimed at both. The next page on the middle

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, we don't see the tail in front of Naruto; but after the next panel, we see the tail and Gai commenting on Kakashi wrapping it. So there you go, their durability is at the same level. Wrong again, Bee disappeared because Hachibi no longer had Chakra. Not because it couldn't withstand it. Bunshin are fodder and taken out by Bee's ink clones.

 

[lanakui8]

I don't care about what the HQ thinks. I guess Kinkaku and Ginkaku have greater Chakra than Bee, because HQ said those two have unbelievable Chakra. Their sensory means nothing. So don't mention it.

show me the scan of HQ saying their chakra is unbelievable. Also, Bee and BM NAruto were in the exact same fight, which means HQ's reactions to both are comparable.

The TBB created by the 5 Bijuu were 5 times the size of them. [

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you mean 5x the height of them.

The size of the TBB that Naruto and Bee created were much bigger, and their explosion indicates that. Bee was contributing half of the Chakra, so he can replicate what Naruto did.

Give me the same scaling for the one Naruto and Bee creating being much bigger. How in the heck do you get to the bolded? Naruto made the bijuudama against the 5 bijuu in 2 panels, the one he made with bee took him half a chapter. Obviously naruto put far more of his own chakra into the bijuudama that was explicitly stated to be the largest one he could make.

Wrong. Hachibi tanked the Juubi's TBB before Kakashi wrapped it. [

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] The motion line in the last panel of the TBB aimed at both. The next page on the middle

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, we don't see the tail in front of Naruto; but after the next panel, we see the tail and Gai commenting on Kakashi wrapping it. So there you go, their durability is at the same level.

In no way shape or form did the Hachibi even take even a tiny portion of the juubidama's blast. If he did then he would have sustained some damage from it, yet he comes out of kakashi's warp with no damage. The piece of his tail that was cut off was from Kakashi's kamui's inability to warp the entire beast which is why

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Not only that, but if the juubi's laser had hit bee, his tail would not have been cut off, it would have been disintegrated like naruto's tails were.

If Bee was only warped after the juubi's laser faded, then BM Naruto would have sustained no damage from the blast, as the hachibi was in front of him and therefore would have either taken the full power of the blast, or would have been vaporized. Not only that, but if bee and BM Naruto took equal power from the blast, then the hachibi's durability >>>>> BM Naruto's as bee only lost one tentacle while naruto lost 6 tails.

But it doesn't even come to that since we know the hachibi was unable to fight and sustained incomparably more damage after taking its own bijuudama, and therefore he would have been annihilated by the juubi's bijuudama. Unless of course you believe the hachibi's bijuudama >>>>>>> Juubi's laser.

Wrong again, Bee disappeared because Hachibi no longer had Chakra. Not because it couldn't withstand it.

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that was made excruciatingly obvious to anyone viewing the manga with a shred of objectivity.

Bunshin are fodder and taken out by Bee's ink clones.

BAsed on a single KCM clone being able to take on Kages? being able to blitz sandaime raikage from behind, beating him, firing off fuuton rasenshurikens? A KCM clone could destroy an army of bee's ink clones. A couple KCM and BM clones annihilate bee while BM Naruto watches the fireworks. Naruto's clones can even hang back in naruto's chakra avatar and fire guided FRS from there each of which have the power to inflict a lot of damage on the hachibi and incapacitate him.


Finally, you completely ignored the fact that bee was amazed at how powerful BM Naruto's bijuudama was, and the fact that Yang kurama had so much chakra that all the other 8 beasts had to be sealed in first in order to balance out its chakra, both which prove BM Naruto's max TBB >>> Bee's max bijuudama.

So once again, all the evidence points against your argument that the hachibi's max tbb = BM Naruto's max TBB. All the evidence points against your argument that the hachibi's durabilit = BM Naruto's durability, all the evidence points against your argument that ink clones = KCM/BM clones, and all the evidence points against your argument that the hachibi doesn't get stomped, let alone stalemates BM Naruto.

 

[Bronze]

show me the scan of HQ saying their chakra is unbelievable. Also, Bee and BM NAruto were in the exact same fight, which means HQ's reactions to both are comparable.

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HQ were more amazed with the brother's Chakra. So by your logic, the brothers have bigger Chakra than Hachibi?

you mean 5x the height of them.

Doesn't matter. My point still stands.

Give me the same scaling for the one Naruto and Bee creating being much bigger. How in the heck do you get to the bolded? Naruto made the bijuudama against the 5 bijuu in 2 panels, the one he made with bee took him half a chapter. Obviously naruto put far more of his own chakra into the bijuudama that was explicitly stated to be the largest one he could make.

I obviously can't, since the panel is drawn from difficult. But the TBB is still bigger. That doesn't even make any freaking sense. Why in the world would Naruto would pour more Chakra to the ball than Bee, especially when it's teamwork and both. Bee clearly tells Naruto to charge it to the max, which means that both would were balancing all of the Chakra at the same. Not to mention when Kurama had almost all of its Chakra sucked by Naruto, it was still able to make massive TBB; and we know that in that event, Hachibi had more Chakra.

In no way shape or form did the Hachibi even take even a tiny portion of the juubidama's blast. If he did then he would have sustained some damage from it, yet he comes out of kakashi's warp with no damage. The piece of his tail that was cut off was from Kakashi's kamui's inability to warp the entire beast which is why Kakashi apologizes for Bee losing his leg. Not only that, but if the juubi's laser had hit bee, his tail would not have been cut off, it would have been disintegrated like naruto's tails were.

Wrong. Kakashi could not have wrapped Bee while the explosion of the Bijuu-Dama was preventing his vision. And the motion line are forecasting it. As well as the top panel of Naruto not being seen with the tail, but only after the next panels. So where did the tail go in that time? Why would Gai just notice that Kakashi wrapped Hachibi, if it happened some seconds ago?

But it doesn't even come to that since we know the hachibi was unable to fight and sustained incomparably more damage after taking its own bijuudama, and therefore he would have been annihilated by the juubi's bijuudama. Unless of course you believe the hachibi's bijuudama >>>>>>> Juubi's laser.

Obito clearly says that both of their Chakra have ran out, in which is why their Bijuu mode disappeared. Unless you believe that Hachibi's hands are more durable than the actual body, when it took Kurama's TBB: [

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]. Bee wasn't even phased by that, and stated could only access little of his power inside Naruto's mind. All of your argument are fallacious.

The hit damaged the hachibi to such an extent that it was unable to continue fighting and had to recover, that was made excruciatingly obvious to anyone viewing the manga with a shred of objectivity.

''I reached my LIMIT (Chakra)''. And read above.

BAsed on a single KCM clone being able to take on Kages? being able to blitz sandaime raikage from behind, beating him, firing off fuuton rasenshurikens? A KCM clone could destroy an army of bee's ink clones. A couple KCM and BM clones annihilate bee while BM Naruto watches the fireworks.

Not when the ink clones are capable of accessing to version 1 and 2; and are capable of using Bijuu-Dama to stalemate Naruto's Bunshin fire-powers. Irrelevant is irrelevant.

Finally, you completely ignored the fact that bee was amazed at how powerful BM Naruto's bijuudama was, and the fact that Yang kurama had so much chakra that all the other 8 beasts had to be sealed in first in order to balance out its chakra, both which prove BM Naruto's max TBB >>> Bee's max bijuudama.

Bee was amazed because Naruto actually used the Bijuu-Dama. [

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] ''But Naruto has never''...''He was unable to pull it off during the training''. The Bijuu-Dama doesn't even use all of the Bijuu's Chakra; only a portion of it. And there was no 8 beasts. Only 5 of them, and their Chakra was being transmitted from the Gedo Mazo; so they had less access to their full power.

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[lanakui8]

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HQ were more amazed with the brother's Chakra. So by your logic, the brothers have bigger Chakra than Hachibi?

They said their chakras were incredible, and in the context of the statement it was being compared to the other shinobi that were being sensed on the battlefied.

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and that's after they experienced the power of the bijuu paths and

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It's clear as day that BM Naruto's chakra is on another level than Bee's.

When Bee accessed his bijuu mode and Naruto accessed his BM,

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I bet you wouldn't even believe BM Naruto had far more chakra and was far more powerful than Bee if Kishi himself told you that. Well, that's not entirely true since I'm pretty sure you do believe that BM Naruto is far more powerful than Bee, you simply don't want that to be true, and therefore are forced to make such ridiculous claims and ignore such blatant statements and implications.

I obviously can't, since the panel is drawn from difficult. But the TBB is still bigger.

Then what do you base the TBB being WAY bigger, and to the point where its at least twice the size of the MAXIMUM sized bijuudama that naruto can produce with his own chakras?

That doesn't even make any freaking sense. Why in the world would Naruto would pour more Chakra to the ball than Bee, especially when it's teamwork and both. Bee clearly tells Naruto to charge it to the max, which means that both would were balancing all of the Chakra at the same. Not to mention when Kurama had almost all of its Chakra sucked by Naruto, it was still able to make massive TBB; and we know that in that event, Hachibi had more Chakra.

Naruto and Bee were putting their maximum chakra into the TBB to make it as large as it can possibly be. Why in the world would they both have to contribute evenly to the sphere? What stops naruto from putting 80% into it while Bee puts 20%?
How did you conclude the Kyuubi had almost all of its chakra sucked? How did you conclude that even while it's in that state, the hachibi had more chakra than it? Finally, it doesn't even matter if Kurama didn't have anywhere near his full reserves as bijuus can't put their entire chakra reserves into a bijuudama proven when BM Naruto and the hachibi are explicitly stated to create their maximum bijuudama, yet they obviously still have a ton of chakra left.

Wrong. Kakashi could not have wrapped Bee while the explosion of the Bijuu-Dama was preventing his vision. And the motion line are forecasting it. As well as the top panel of Naruto not being seen with the tail, but only after the next panels. So where did the tail go in that time? Why would Gai just notice that Kakashi wrapped Hachibi, if it happened some seconds ago?

Kakashi warped bee before the laser even hit bee, so the argument about an explosion obscuring his view is silly. The top panel doesn't show the hachibi's tail because it's zoomed into Naruto. The panel where the tail is shown is zoomed further out enough so that the tail is included. Based on what did Gai just notice that Kakashi had warped the Hachibi? Next, you've conceded that the hachibi didn't get hit by the laser based on the fact that the tentacle would not have been cut off, rather it would have been vaporized had it been hit.

Obito clearly says that both of their Chakra have ran out, in which is why their Bijuu mode disappeared. Unless you believe that Hachibi's hands are more durable than the actual body, when it took Kurama's TBB: [

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]. Bee wasn't even phased by that, and stated could only access little of his power inside Naruto's mind. All of your argument are fallacious.

Don't waste my time. The hachibi's hands CAUGHT the bijuudama, however when the thing actually exploded, it eradicated what was left of the hachibi. The hachibi was also heavily wounded by its own bijuudama, yet suffered almost no noticable damage from the juubi's laser. Bee never said he could only access little of his power inside naruto's mind, he said that he couldn't access his full powers. So its inescapable, the only way that your assertion that the hachibi got hit by the juubi's laser could possibly be true is if you have conclude that the hachibi's bijuudama >>>>>>>> Juubi's laser. Do you believe that? If not, then the hachibi obviously did not get hit by the juubi's laser.

''I reached my LIMIT (Chakra)''. And read above.

I reached my limit (ability to fight).

Not when the ink clones are capable of accessing to version 1 and 2; and are capable of using Bijuu-Dama to stalemate Naruto's Bunshin fire-powers. Irrelevant is irrelevant.

Oh so ink clones can use V1 and V2 now? AND they can use bijuudamas? Please oh please show me where they've been shown or even implied to be capable of such? Those V2, bijuudama blasting ink clones would have really come in handy against the V2 jinchuriki paths, or basically any fight that Bee has ever been in.

Bee was amazed because Naruto actually used the Bijuu-Dama. [

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] ''But Naruto has never''...''He was unable to pull it off during the training''. The Bijuu-Dama doesn't even use all of the Bijuu's Chakra; only a portion of it. And there was no 8 beasts. Only 5 of them, and their Chakra was being transmitted from the Gedo Mazo; so they had less access to their full power.

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Now how in the hell is that a statement about Naruto's ability to just use A bijuudama? How in the hell is that not a statement about the power of Naruto's bijuudamas. Don't waste my time.

Bijuudamas don't use all of a bijuu's chakra, but the maximum size of a dama a bijuu is capable of making is obviously proportional to the power of that bijuu. The whole part about the 8 beasts was that it was explicitly stated that Yang kurama had to be sealed in last so that the other 8 beast's chakra could balance his own out, and therefore he has incomparably more chakra to any of the individual 8 lower beasts. Since when were the 5 bijuus that BM Naruto faced not at full power?

Look at all the crazy things you've had to assert in this thread:

1) The Hachibi's bijuudama >>>>>>>>> Juubi's laser.

2) The Hachibi can produce ink clones that can use V1, V2 and bijuudamas.

3) The only way BM Naruto and the Hachibi could combine their bijuudama is if they both added an equal amount of chakra to it.

4) The Bee was never impressed by the BM Naruto's bijuudama despite saying

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after witnessing its power.

5) The hachibi wasn't taken out by its own bijuudama

6) The hachibi took the Juubi's laser, and was warped away after the blast ended, yet for some reason BM Naruto (who was behind the hachibi and therefore shouldn't have taken any damage) took way more damage from the attack than the hachibi did. However, BM Naruto and the hachibi are equally durable.

IF those are the kinds of ridiculous things that you have to believe in order for your argument to be true, then why even post or reply to other people?

 

[lucario14]

Bm naruto totally annihilates Lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

B was wanking Kurama's strength yet Killer B ties with BM Naruto? Lmao, what the hell?