[VS] BM Minato vs Nagato ?

[Prince Charles]

Aww man Someone get turnt up! My energy is too low right now.

 

[KidGamer65]

Didn't it require training for Naruto to start doing bijuudamas?

He was training to use it in Human form, because its harder to achieve the perfect ratio in Human form. Doing it in Beast Mode fixes that problem.

 

[Touken]

Is kunai slash a ninjutsu? no.He isn't absorbing anything since minato won't be using ninjutsu when he's about to decapitate is skinny ass neck.

Yeah, that's why I said he can use Deva/Asura Path against Minato while he's absorbing his bijuudama/Rasengan.

 

[Fecal Matter]

Yeah, that's why I said he can use Deva/Asura Path against Minato while he's absorbing his bijuudama/Rasengan.

minato haz reflexes being able to counter V2 ay, shinra tensei can be countered by resisting da push lik 6 tailed naruto did.after 1 shinra tensei da 5 secs will kick in leading to nagato's in-evadable defeat.nagato can fire his lazers all he wants but minato dodges it and kills him.


deal wit it.

 

[Touken]

minato haz reflexes being able to counter V2 ay, shinra tensei can be countered by resisting da push lik 6 tailed naruto did.after 1 shinra tensei da 5 secs will kick in leading to nagato's in-evadable defeat.nagato can fire his lazers all he wants but minato dodges it and kills him.


deal wit it.

Yeah, that Almighty Push was used by the Deva Path in the form of 6 Paths of Pain. Their techs have been stated to be weaker in that state. Also, that's the same Deva Path who used Chou Shinra Tensei so this dude's reserves were depleted and seemed as if he couldn't put as much power in his techs.

Also, I'm not sure Minato can resist the push of Shinra Tensei.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah, that Almighty Push was used by the Deva Path in the form of 6 Paths of Pain. Their techs have been stated to be weaker in that state. Also, that's the same Deva Path who used Chou Shinra Tensei.

Also, I'm not sure Minato can resist the push of Shinra Tensei.

Kakashi resisted Shinra tensei multiple times(3times if i remember correctly) without dying. 4Tails resisted shinra tensei to the point he pushed it back at Deva Path. Pretty sure full BM Kyubi would pretty much laugh at it?`

He has the same physical strenght as BM Naruto who pushed back 5Bijuus with his roar only

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And he can use Bijuudamas

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[H A D E S]

I totally disagree with Minato making out of this alive, b'cuz...

1. Summons: Minato's summons cant handle all the pain's summons (Pain has the Dog, Lizard, Rhino, Crab, Bird, Bull and the Centipede).
3. Inteligence:Now I know Minato is damn smart and he'd pretty much figure out how Nagato fights. But same goes for Nagato. Though, on intelligence basis I dont think Nagato is as smart as Minato, but I'm sure he can get the idea behind the FTG. And what if Deva Path takes away the kunais that Minato spreaded across the battlefield using the pull (though not all of it but most of it, according to me)???
3. Minato's main headache is going to be the Deva path (push and pull) and Preta path (Ninjutsu is useless). And then there's the Naraka path who will be the most protected. Now, some people are saying Minato throws few Bijuu Damas and Nagato is done, but you guys forgot that the Deva Path blew up an ENTIRE VILLAGE, against that a Bijuu Dama is not that much of a big deal, plus the cool down is just 5 seconds. And Preta path sucks up any ninjutsu (Bijuu dama included, though I'm thinking it might take some time to suck up a whole Bijuu Dama). Preta and Deva combo is one hell of a combo.

4. Minato FTG near pains and kill them. This is false. Incase you didnt notice let me tell you, Tobirama's FTG and Minato's are quiet different. Tobirama can teleport in other unmarked spots and mid-airs (Tobirama teleported behind Obito along with Naruto, thus harming Obito with Naruto's senjutsu) but Minato is not shown to be able to do this. He teleports only where the kunais and markings are.
5. Chibaku Tensei: OK. This one I think Minato can handle it with the ST Barrier. So, Draw here.

6. Naruto had quiet an impact on the Pains because of his SM. But In this case Minato doesnt have one. So, again demerit for Minato (especially against the Preta path and Deva)

And did you guys notice Minato's jutsu's are quiet known jutsus. I mean, by looking at the user one such as Nagato can tell that its an/the ST, Hiraishin, Bijuu-Dama or bunshin whereas Nagato's jutsus are completely unknwon. No one, in on instance, can properly tell what kind of jutsu he just used except for the summoning and maybe Naraka's revival jutsu.

So, conclusion, Minato has some good technique and raw power(BM) but Nagato's fighting style and jutsus are superior.
Thus Nagato wins.
Now some of you think I hate Minato. Well, thats not the case. These two are my favourite and that's the main reason why this vs thread came to my mind....

 

[thatgirl]

people are once again mindlessly wanking preta path, its an extremely close range barrier which envelopes the user's body

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its is useless against continuous bijuu dama in which bijuu damas are spaced apart

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[pateuvasiliu]

Okay, let's get turnt up because as an abolisher of idiocy I can't handle seeing this shi t flung around.

1. Summons: Minato's summons cant handle all the pain's summons (Pain has the Dog, Lizard, Rhino, Crab, Bird, Bull and the Centipede).

Naruto's chakra roar knocked down 5 bijuus. Nagato's summons turn into little squirrels and run to Narnia and Aslan.

3. Inteligence:Now I know Minato is damn smart and he'd pretty much figure out how Nagato fights. But same goes for Nagato. Though, on intelligence basis I dont think Nagato is as smart as Minato, but I'm sure he can get the idea behind the FTG. And what if Deva Path takes away the kunais that Minato spreaded across the battlefield using the pull (though not all of it but most of it, according to me)???

If Nagato would God forbid waste his ST on such a trivial thing like kunais ( which can be spammed btw because Minato is sitting on half of the kyuubi's chakra and as such he can use Kage Bunshin and make clones with kunais ) he will get blitzed and lose his head. Nothing bar ST can stop a blitzing Minato in BM from ripping his head off.

4. Minato FTG near pains and kill them. This is false. Incase you didnt notice let me tell you, Tobirama's FTG and Minato's are quiet different. Tobirama can teleport in other unmarked spots and mid-airs (Tobirama teleported behind Obito along with Naruto, thus harming Obito with Naruto's senjutsu) but Minato is not shown to be able to do this. He teleports only where the kunais and markings are.

FTG isn't even required. Minato's shunshin in BM is so fast and strong that not only did Kakashi's Sharingan only see a yellow flash when Naruto did it, but Naruto deflected 5 TBBs with sheer speed alone.

The Rinnegan is inferior to the Sharingan as far as precog goes and Minato is faster than Naruto so the only thing Nagato can see before his head is parted from his fu cking neck is a yellow flash.

5. Chibaku Tensei: OK. This one I think Minato can handle it with the ST Barrier.

CT can be taken out numerous ways:

- TBB barrage

- Clone teleports it

- S/T barrier

- Brute force ( naruto did it in a form inferior to BM )

6. Naruto had quiet an impact on the Pains because of his SM. But In this case Minato doesnt have one.

Preta won't get near Minato to take his chakra. Furthermore, Minato can simply make clones so while Nagato uses Preta Path a clone backstabs him.

Nagato's jutsus are completely unknwon

They're unknown, but guess what?

Against BM Minato they are useless.

CT is countered, summons are a joke, ST is withstood, Asura is a joke.

Nothing bar taking out his whole Kyuubi chakra with Preta ( slap yourself if you think that happens ) will do anything to Minato whereas something as simple as shunshin + kunai can kill Nagato.

 

[Fecal Matter]

tank u 4 putting dem fools in place pateuvasilu.

 

[TrollingSage]

Time to end this preta path vs Bijuu dama argument. Whilst it's true Nagato can infact aborb them, lets not forget bijuu damas are bombs and like all bombs, they go "booooom!". My point? The bijuu damas dont have to be aimed directly at Nagato for him to absorb. They can be aimed 20, 15,10, 5,1 meters close to Nagato. The resulting explosion will blow him and his "pretty path" away.

 

[H A D E S]

Okay, let's get turnt up because as an abolisher of idiocy I can't handle seeing this shi t flung around.



Naruto's chakra roar knocked down 5 bijuus. Nagato's summons turn into little squirrels and run to Narnia and Aslan.



If Nagato would God forbid waste his ST on such a trivial thing like kunais ( which can be spammed btw because Minato is sitting on half of the kyuubi's chakra and as such he can use Kage Bunshin and make clones with kunais ) he will get blitzed and lose his head. Nothing bar ST can stop a blitzing Minato in BM from ripping his head off.



FTG isn't even required. Minato's shunshin in BM is so fast and strong that not only did Kakashi's Sharingan only see a yellow flash when Naruto did it, but Naruto deflected 5 TBBs with sheer speed alone.

The Rinnegan is inferior to the Sharingan as far as precog goes and Minato is faster than Naruto so the only thing Nagato can see before his head is parted from his fu cking neck is a yellow flash.



CT can be taken out numerous ways:

- TBB barrage

- Clone teleports it

- S/T barrier

- Brute force ( naruto did it in a form inferior to BM )



Preta won't get near Minato to take his chakra. Furthermore, Minato can simply make clones so while Nagato uses Preta Path a clone backstabs him.



They're unknown, but guess what?

Against BM Minato they are useless.

CT is countered, summons are a joke, ST is withstood, Asura is a joke.

Nothing bar taking out his whole Kyuubi chakra with Preta ( slap yourself if you think that happens ) will do anything to Minato whereas something as simple as shunshin + kunai can kill Nagato.

tank u 4 putting dem fools in place pateuvasilu.

I, very much, would like to discuss this in further depth but right now am in the middle of a GFX request. So I'll get back to you guys later.
And, please dont use abusive words as it takes away the fun in discussing and turns the discussion into a pointless argument. If I see those abusive words again I simply have to avoid you and your logic and report it to the mods for abusing me.
And I'm sorry I'm unable to attend to my own thread. Have fun.

EDIT: I'm back.
1. Now you say that summons are a joke, but that wont be the case if the Animal Path is protected well. And Due to the rinnegan's shared link its not going to be so simple to take down the animal path as you say. You are totally forgetting that they (Minato and Nagato) doesnt know each other's power and fighting style. And the Dog alone can split itself into many smaller versions.
2. About the FTG, like I said before. Minato can't teleport to a place where there's no markings or kunais so. FTG cant be used for attacking purposes. This can only be used for escaping purposes.
3. You said that rinnegan is inferior to sharingan. But it has already been told that Rinnegan has the strongest doujutsus, in both manga and anime. So you're wrong on this one.
4. Minato's clones are not that much of a threat here, again. Deva, literaly, threw three giant frogs rolling in different directions. So, clones are just fodders for Deva path as they are not as strong as the original.
5. Now, Chibaku Tensei can only be counterd through, Space Time Barrier. This is because, Minato is good with technique. CT causes interupted movement making the enemies hard to focus their chakra. And dont forget, it took three jutsus to take down a medium scale Chibaku but in this case, Nagato is in his prime and not controlled by some Edo user. Also, Minato has no idea of the jutsu, he will be seeing it for the first time. So, I'll take that as either Minato uses Space Time or he dies trying to figure out.
6. Deva and Preta can take any jutsu Minato throws at.
7. If any members of Pain gets taken out, the Naraka path will be there to resurrect them.

So, in the end Minato will give a hard time to Nagato. I can totally see that. But Nagato still wins this by a slight inch. I'm saying this because Nagato's fighting style is so complex that none has been able to figure it out at first contact. Jiraiya got killed . And even after knowing his abilities, Naruto almost got killed, thanks to Kyubi going rampage and Hinata for trigering it.
So, Nagato takes the day with hair gone grey maybe.... lol XD

 

[Hiraphor]

Nagato wins no problem. The teleporting Kunais will simply be blown away with a low-power Shinra Tensei. Chibaku tensei? The space time barrier would do NOTHING! Remember CT doesn't really use Chakra itself - it only uses chakra corresponding to the amount of force used to pull up mountains and crap. If he wastes a load of chakra teleporting away CT, Nagato can literally drop it and start another with no added effort.

Also there's this thing about the Preta Path not being able to absorb 5 tailed beast bombs.
Bull.

If you notice when Naruto fights Nagato, he tries a close-range Rasengan, which moves faster than the shield absorbs it. However, the rasengan is stopped in close range. Tailed beast bombs = more chakra for Nagato. Same principle with Madara's rasenshuriken absorption. Why do you think Killer Bee or Naruto never tried to hit him with Tailed Beast Bomb? Because they knew it would be absorbed.

Then there's Gedo Mazo, Nagato's trump card. The soul-rip thingy will absolutely DESTROY Minato. He has absolutely no counters for it, and even if he destroys all the Pains, Nagato still controls with soul thing from his original body.

Gedo Mazo is as strong as the 10 tails, as long as it is supplied with enough chakra to run. Think of it as a taser - the gun itself is the same. Nagato is simply using a 1 time use battery pack, whereas putting the tailed beasts in is an unlimited battery pack. Both get the job done the same way.

 

[Yolobito Swagchiha]

I genuinely can't believe all the bullshit going down on this thread. Regular Minato beats Nagato high difficulty. BM Minato stomps.

 

[Valhorus]

BM Minato beats Pains and Nagato without a doubt...............tho it is an old thread .

 

[Memento Mori]

BM Minato Wins this Low diff

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Minato high diff.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why can't it?

In the process of absorbing the first one the other 4 blue up in his face

 

[Stealth3]

BM Minato wins mid diff since Nagato is fighting through Pain.

Minato's striking is extremely fast and with FTG it doesn't matter if the Rinnegan can see where Minato is at al times, Pain still won't be able to react. No intel, he kills one and then it will get revived. Minato then FTGs to that one and kills him. Rasengon takes care of the rest of the paths except for Preta Path. Preta Path is dealt with by FTGing behind and slicing his throat with a Kunai.

The 5 second interval between push and pull is all Minato needs to end the battle. Minato is intelligent and will figure out the Pains strengths. The toads fight off Pains summons and stalls to let Minato gather intel if needed.

 

[Jimihendrix]

too hard to discern an outcome. It can go both ways imo. But BM more times probably. I'd still rank Nagato above Minato, however

edt: oh yeah, these are the pains. Minato should be able take this then.