Again doesn't mean crap. There too many people to attempt to hit and they dont have to be bunched up together. Nagato alone can counter TBB for them.
Now adding techniques together makes this a massive rape.
- His sensing is jammed from Gengetsu's Genjutsu
- Zabuza can keep producing battle field mist
- Sensors Edo's still work, since Genjutsu can be control and can make it work only on opponents, which will detect every chakra built move and body movements he making.
- Muu's Jinton ends it since he wont see it coming.
- Dan's ghost one shots or leaves opening.
-Kinkaku and Gin finds gains opening as a single touch from the rope of clarity, under the conditions he will be in, ends it.
-And even the ones that can't do nothing at all can track down FTG tags and destroy them.
Too many things that can happen and I am not up to drag this discussion.
Kabuto has the previous jins, however it was obito who added the bijuus within them
so even if kabuto summons the jins, they wont be a factor since none of them bar possibly yagura is a perfect jin
How? no one bar nagato (who gets low diffd) even stands a remote chance against minato here
continous TBBs eradicate every other edo on the battlefield (assuming that they get sealed once they are taken out)
A good match up would be Kabuto's army vs Orochimaru's. But then again too much to factor and to much words to put in, for that match up.
fcks over all other combatants(bar mist swordsmen) and haku(debatable) he didn't see lee and guy kick her head off.
- Sensors Edo's still work, since Genjutsu can be control and can make it work only on opponents, which will detect every chakra built move and body movements he making.
Um no it isn't moot since spreading out = covering all for corners/back in front. You want to bombard people up front, cool, then the ones from the back back stabs.
No thats not how gravity works. ST isn't going to push one then somehow the other 4 gets ignored. They are all coming at him, just as you said.
-has to summon clan first.
-has to be in mist aoe.
-fcks over all over combatants
Easily nullified by chakra roar.
fcks over all other combatants(bar mist swordsmen) and haku(debatable) he didn't see lee and guy kick her head off.
-Not a problem since Minato starts his battle with preparations too. Not to mention no manga intel to specifically know what Gengetsu is capable of and attempt to find him specifically out of the entire army.
-Not a problem since this is a battlefield and Mizu covered the entire battlefield of Gaara's/Onoki division army (which he lead 1/5 of the army).
-To something that is constantly being produce and spread means crap to chakra roar. Especially when everything else is going around him to.
-Thats nice, good thing we have other characters to back stab and distract them so no need to reach out to them specifically. And no need for them to attempt to fight him CQC's.
So? Lazer doesn't decompose like Jinton. Thats like attempting to compare Truth Seekers to a TBB damage. He aint dodging under the conditions I stated he will be in since he wont see it coming.
Um yes he can theres is no restricted under the conditions so he can do it like if Kabuto were to use him. Which he outright stole his body for Edo and SA outright preventing it by sealing him in a barrier.
Thanks for concession thats just 1/100 combos that can be made. But I didn't bother listing all other characters since its too much to write for no reason here.
Ifs the tags are being used I fail to see where the problem is when locating them. Just like how SM Naruto eventually located all the chakra rods from Obito's jins.
Yea some could then, some backs stabs, and eventually thes ones blown up regenerate while then the same process over. But then again under these defensive conditions they set up that I mention making very difficult to clean them up.
Lol everyone saying Minato gets stomped needs to put down the bottle. Sheer numbers don't mean anything in front of Minato's massive firepower + versatility granted to him by FTG. All of Kabuto's edos are pretty much fodder in front of BM Minato bar Nagato who still gets low diff'd. Haven't seen a single way that the army wins or even breaches his Kurama avatar.
again read above in regards to their position, and I doubt any form of back stab(unless you're speaking Figuratively) is penetrating bm cloak or getting past minato's negative emotion sensing.
that's how st works. Nagato has to select what he wants to be effected. Same for bt. Or else all of his paths/summons would be pushed away/pulled eveyone time he uses the tech. And we know that isn't true.
ST isn't going to push one then somehow the other 4 gets ignored.
-Thats nice, good thing we have other characters to back stab and distract them so no need to reach out to them specifically. And no need for them to attempt to fight him CQC's.
That dosen't prove your point. . The clam worked on everyone in the area. The mist works on everyone in the area. Provide proof that it will only wokr on the opposition otherwise via either tech you're only screwing over your own team.
So? Lazer doesn't decompose like Jinton. Thats like attempting to compare Truth Seekers to a TBB damage.
Tsb is stronger than Jinton and have onmyuden. That's the only reason why it's a cut Above the rest. At best Jinton busted a v3 susanno and onnoki had to be powered up by tsunade to do it.
He aint dodging under the conditions I stated he will be in since he wont see it coming.
The only attacks minato failed to dodge were attacks delivered by juubi jins. So as long as he has his tagS spread out he should be able to dodge. Unless you got someone here that outspeeds ay casually.
Um yes he can theres is no restricted under the conditions so he can do it like if Kabuto were to use him.
Thanks for concession thats just 1/100 combos that can be made. But I didn't bother listing all other characters since its too much to write for no reason here.
Ifs the tags are being used I fail to see where the problem is when locating them. Just like how SM Naruto eventually located all the chakra rods from Obito's jins.
So their starting the fight spread out?
Or are you under the assumption that Minato is gonna sit on his ass to let them surround him?
again read above in regards to their position, and I doubt any form of back stab(unless you're speaking Figuratively) is penetrating bm cloak or getting past minato's negative emotion sensing.
Only if your under the assumption that they gonna sit on their ass when he is planting markings and firing tbb's.
Pretty sure BM cloak gets taken out or bust open by 1 finger Nukite (no tail block) or an ethereal sword such as Totsuka. And techs that are microscopic (c4) going in between gaps. Or Hanzo's poison gas, from underground via summoning. Etc.
that's how st works. Nagato has to select what he wants to be effected. Same for bt. Or else all of his paths/summons would be pushed away/pulled eveyone time he uses the tech. And we know that isn't true.
But st has done it b4:
First frs:
Your using bad examples and taking things out of context. Naruto clearly stated that he is waiting for the 5 secs interval before launching the 2nd one. Please tell me, according to your interpretation, how he was able to "select" both Bee and Naruto[
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Once all TBB reach ST range, Nagato reflects them back.
So you're saying the clam is pre summoned? Or he still has to summon it.
He doesn't need intel to blow away mist that's hampering his abilities. Once mist is gone both trollkage and his clam will be visible.
Only if your saying Minato has pre tags surrounded and pre clones to "specifically" find him to kill him.
No this mist isn't visible to notice, especially when you have Zabuza's mist (which is noticeable) layering it.
That dosen't prove your point. . The clam worked on everyone in the area. The mist works on everyone in the area. Provide proof that it will only wokr on the opposition otherwise via either tech you're only screwing over your own team.
Um yes it does. Everyone effected by it was his opponent so saying it can't be chosen is outright ignoring how Genjutsu works. If Genjutsu cannot be control then why can't Kabuto be hit by his own genjutsu or Mizu himself. One uses Sound as a medium to send chakra to the brain while one uses mist. Jiraya outright stated they can "control" the chakra they are sending into their opponents brain. While your telling me I need proof that Genjutsu or Gengetsu specifically, can't control it and have it effect everyone else.
Tsb is stronger than Jinton and have onmyuden. That's the only reason why it's a cut Above the rest. At best Jinton busted a v3 susanno and onnoki had to be powered up by tsunade to do it.
The only attacks minato failed to dodge were attacks delivered by juubi jins. So as long as he has his tagS spread out he should be able to dodge. Unless you got someone here that outspeeds ay casually.
V1 Juubito didn't have onmyuden. Plus that wasn't the point to bring out superiority. But priorities.Tanking Juubi lazer doesn't mean it can tank decomposition. Bee can tank a tbb, does that mean he can tank jinton too?
edo tensai bounds the spirit from the pure world to another body in the impure world. How can he move his spirit freely if it's bound?
again read above.
Who the hell is bounding him not to fight? Kabuto Lol? So apparently your reaching by attempting to say Dan is restricted in this match up because Kabuto has him bound to be able to use him.
Sweet, not like im going to drag this discussion anyway, but its clear that this character combos annihilates Minato here.
Then ill leave the theoretical point of view and say that 30-40+ edos sees and witness themsevles of Minato going to throw these Kunai's in places right in front of their faces.
Lol everyone saying Minato gets stomped needs to put down the bottle. Sheer numbers don't mean anything in front of Minato's massive firepower + versatility granted to him by FTG. All of Kabuto's edos are pretty much fodder in front of BM Minato bar Nagato who still gets low diff'd. Haven't seen a single way that the army wins or even breaches his Kurama avatar.
And thats your problem being being competently clueless with the versatility these Edos have them makes this one sided. Yet you think firepower is needed for breaching Kurama avatar, plus thinking FTG is out matching many characters who can easily spot and destroy them.
But as I said earlier, I am not indulging into this wank fest and overrating
The same guy who had an Uzumaki wife? The same guy who's main attack involves seals? The same guy who used two seals in the beginning of the series, both extremely complex?
OT: Minato likely clears this. Because it's BM Minato he's above every Edo Kabuto had sans Edo Madara. None of the Edo's can match him destructively, and most are too slow to anticipate his FTG into a sealing jutsu.
