BM Minato vs Kabuto's Edo Army

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Can Minato defeat them all? (Edo Madara is not included)

Scenario 2: Nagato is removed from Team Edo Army.

 

[Unorthodox]

Minato cannot seal thus Edo > Minato if we exclude the obvious He still loses Nagato alone puts up a tough fight especially being edo and since the jinz are apart of his army Minato gets wrecked. (Assuming they have the bijuu) Without that they still have Deidara's C,0 witch could bypass his ftg range especially with no intel.

 

[Transcendence]

Minato cannot seal thus Edo > Minato if we exclude the obvious He still loses Nagato alone puts up a tough fight especially being edo and since the jinz are apart of his army Minato gets wrecked. (Assuming they have the bijuu) Without that they still have Deidara's C,0 witch could bypass his ftg range especially with no intel.

Minato can't seal...?

The same guy who had an Uzumaki wife? The same guy who's main attack involves seals? The same guy who used two seals in the beginning of the series, both extremely complex?

OT: Minato likely clears this. Because it's BM Minato he's above every Edo Kabuto had sans Edo Madara. None of the Edo's can match him destructively, and most are too slow to anticipate his FTG into a sealing jutsu.

 

[NSUNSR]

Nagato solos in the first scenario, Edo's still stomp in the second one.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Nagato solos in the first scenario, Edo's still stomp in the second one.

Lol, Nagato doesn't have a ghost of a chance against BM minato alone

 

[Apêx1]

Minato loses this.
Nagato uses CT and then:
-Kunai's and Minato begin to go towards it rendering any escape mechanism improbable. TBB may be prepd but will take time long enough for:
-Deidara to initiate C0 while flying into the CT.
-Mu using Jinton, Kakuzu uses his Futon/Katon amplified by CT's gravitational pull destroying said Kunai's
-Itachi still ends with Tsukiyomi.
-Bijuu Jins fire TBB shockwaves.

 

[lanakui8]

Minato loses this.
Nagato uses CT and then:
-Kunai's and Minato begin to go towards it rendering any escape mechanism improbable. TBB may be prepd but will take time long enough for:
-Deidara to initiate C0 while flying into the CT.
-Mu using Jinton, Kakuzu uses his Futon/Katon amplified by CT's gravitational pull destroying said Kunai's
-Itachi still ends with Tsukiyomi.
-Bijuu Jins fire TBB shockwaves.

CT gets easily busted by rapidfire bijuudama. C0 isn't doing anything to the BM avatar that can block the juubi's laser.

how in the world will itachi ever land tsukuyomi on even base minato, let alone BM minato who fights at long range? And tsukuyomi is easily broken out of via partner method.

Rather than nagato somehow pulling off chibaku tensei before minato does anything, minato chakra roars the opposition away just like BM Naruto did to the edo jinchurikis and launches a super bijuudama or rapidfire bijuudama at them before they can get up. The only people who survive that are nagato and sandaime raikage.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Minato gets raped... Deidara uses C 0 and he's a dead man...

 

[NSUNSR]

Lol, Nagato doesn't have a ghost of a chance against BM minato alone

What makes you think so? Nagato counters everything in Minato's arsenal.

 

[lanakui8]

What makes you think so? Nagato counters everything in Minato's arsenal.

nagato can't even hurt minato and he has no answer to chakra roar + rapidfire bijuudama. Nagato gets wrecked 1 vs 1.

 

[NSUNSR]

nagato can't even hurt minato and he has no answer to chakra roar + rapidfire bijuudama. Nagato gets wrecked 1 vs 1.

Preta Path absorbs the Bijuu Damas, or he uses ST to deflect them.

 

[lanakui8]

Preta Path absorbs the Bijuu Damas, or he uses ST to deflect them.

when has preta path absorbed anything remotely comparable to a bijuudama? Plus, minato just fires them around nagato, nagato gets killed by the explosion.

Deva couldn't deflect KN6's bijuudama with shinra tensei, he had to use banshou tennin, and at best it stops one of the 5 bijuudamas.

 

[Apêx1]

CT gets easily busted by rapidfire bijuudama. C0 isn't doing anything to the BM avatar that can block the juubi's laser.

how in the world will itachi ever land tsukuyomi on even base minato, let alone BM minato who fights at long range? And tsukuyomi is easily broken out of via partner method.

Rather than nagato somehow pulling off chibaku tensei before minato does anything, minato chakra roars the opposition away just like BM Naruto did to the edo jinchurikis and launches a super bijuudama or rapidfire bijuudama at them before they can get up. The only people who survive that are nagato and sandaime raikage.

Hmm.. Well I'll agree on C0 not doing anything, and I'll agree on BM Minato not being put under any Genjutsu, but Tsukiyomi isn't breakable by partner method when it occurs before an instant passes.

Alright I agree, but how do the two survive that?

 

[NSUNSR]

when has preta path absorbed anything remotely comparable to a bijuudama? Plus, minato just fires them around nagato, nagato gets killed by the explosion.

Deva couldn't deflect KN6's bijuudama with shinra tensei, he had to use banshou tennin, and at best it stops one of the 5 bijuudamas.

Preta Path's absorption is like an endless vortex.
As for the ST part you forget about the cooldown, and that this is Nagato, not Deva Path.

 

[lanakui8]

Preta Path's absorption is like an endless vortex.

and raikiri cuts through anything.

Even if preta path's absorption was like an endless vortex, the absorption sphere got pushed back by naruto's FRS. the bijuudama hits nagato and explodes before he can absorb the thing.

As for the ST part you forget about the cooldown, and that this is Nagato, not Deva Path.

ST cooldown is at least 5 seconds, nagato was never implied to have no cooldown.

Hmm.. Well I'll agree on C0 not doing anything, and I'll agree on BM Minato not being put under any Genjutsu, but Tsukiyomi isn't breakable by partner method when it occurs before an instant passes.

Alright I agree, but how do the two survive that?

tsukuyomi isn't breakable by partner method unless you and your partners conscious and subconscious are linked, and your partner experiences reality through your mind. Tsukuyomi isn't instant that's just hyperbole, it's just extremely fast.

Nagato survives by using CST to counter the explosion around himself, sandaime raikage survives because only a direct hit from a bijuudama will end him.

 

[NSUNSR]

and raikiri cuts through anything.

Even if preta path's absorption was like an endless vortex, the absorption sphere got pushed back by naruto's FRS. the bijuudama hits nagato and explodes before he can absorb the thing.

Scans?

ST cooldown is at least 5 seconds, nagato was never implied to have no cooldown.

I didn't explain myself correctly. I meant that Deva didn't use ST because of the cooldown.

 

[lanakui8]

Scans?

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compared to when the barrier is up against a

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I didn't explain myself correctly. I meant that Deva didn't use ST because of the cooldown.

oh, well nagato still has the cooldown till stated otherwise. His attacks were a lot stronger and faster than pain's, they still carried the same rules and weaknesses.

 

[Apêx1]

and raikiri cuts through anything.

Even if preta path's absorption was like an endless vortex, the absorption sphere got pushed back by naruto's FRS. the bijuudama hits nagato and explodes before he can absorb the thing.


ST cooldown is at least 5 seconds, nagato was never implied to have no cooldown.


tsukuyomi isn't breakable by partner method unless you and your partners conscious and subconscious are linked, and your partner experiences reality through your mind. Tsukuyomi isn't instant that's just hyperbole, it's just extremely fast.

Nagato survives by using CST to counter the explosion around himself, sandaime raikage survives because only a direct hit from a bijuudama will end him.

Well according to the VIZ, it happened so quick that not even an instant passed [

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], and it was remarked by Asuma as well (and Kakashi). I don't see it being deemed a hyperbole imo. We can see Kakashi fall, but before he completely fell he latched onto the water, and Asuma noted that. Definitely nigh instant.

And yes, your partner experiences what you do, however, it has been shown that Hachibi only breaks out Bee in his own subconscious [

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]. Can you prove that Bee's and Hachibi's subconscious is also affected by the time slow of the genjutsu, even though it isn't affected by the genjutsu itself?

And yes, I agree then. Would you say a Shinra Tensei like the one he used on the three boss summons (but this time amplified even more since he's healed to an extent) would counter as well or nah?

 

[NSUNSR]

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compared to when the barrier is up against a

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Nope.

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oh, well nagato still has the cooldown till stated otherwise. His attacks were a lot stronger and faster than pain's, they still carried the same rules and weaknesses.

I'm not saying that there is no cooldown. I'm saying that Deva didn't use ST to repell the TBB, because of the cooldown.

 

[lanakui8]

Nope.

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,yeah untouched after it absorbed enough of the rasenshuriken that the technique destabilized and stopped spinning... In the scan I showed when the rasenshuriken first makes contact with the barrier, the barrier is clearly bent inwards.

I'm not saying that there is no cooldown. I'm saying that Deva didn't use ST to repell the TBB, because of the cooldown.

the cooldown is suppose to apply for both banshou tennin and shinra tensei though....