[Predictions] Bleach Manga 540 Discussion and 541 Predictions

[Marimba Man 13]

Soi Fon's is smaller than his lol. And Juha Bach was a shinigami, wasn't he? He was in soul society

Soi Fon's bankia is huge. She hates to use it because it is so big that it can't be hidden. Its her shikai, which sits on her hand, that is small.

 

[chopsy16]

Lol! So Ichigo went bankai with his Quincy powers? I thought that was only acheivable by shinigamis..

 

[Mugetsu]

the ending was mind blowing

 

[ziggyZ]

Could someone please answer this:

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Remember when Uryu had the competition with Ichigo? And Uryu grabbed hold off Ichigo's reiraku which was red. He said that he's is red because all Shinigami's are red. But that can be explained because Ichigo became a Shinigami via Rukia.
But! When Ichigo's soul chain was cut off by Byakuya and he lost he's power. Urahara told him to find his Shinigami powers within him (inside the that world of boxes). He began searching for his own Shinigami power and realized he can do so using the reiraku and finding the red ribbon; which he did. And that is what Zangetsu is, but now we find out that it wasn't Zangetsu and instead it was Juha Bach since all Quincy's have a bit of him inside them.

So... if Ichigo has yet to use his true Shingami powers, and has been using his Quincy powers (a-la Juha Bach), why did the box which contained his Quincy power have a red ribbon?

 

[S2 DzL]

Well my mind was blown! can't wait to see what happens when he uses his powers in tandem!

 

[Skull Knight]

WTF man howcome someone from 1000yrs has suddenly came out beat d hell out of the old man yamaji, stole d strongest bankai and now became ichigo's zangetsu. Plus where now tensa zangetsu fit in d equation?:hyper:

 

[Anonn]

I am so brain fu*ked. so, Zangetsu isn't his shinigami power.. then what is his shinigami power? Cause zangetsu is his quincy power.. but he has never used it so. omg im so mind blown

 

[Anonn]

And.. if zangetsu was only his quincy power.. how strong will ichigo get then? and what is his true zanpakto/bankai's name?

 

[ziggyZ]

Could someone please answer this:

Spoiler

Remember when Uryu had the competition with Ichigo? And Uryu grabbed hold off Ichigo's reiraku which was red. He said that he's is red because all Shinigami's are red. But that can be explained because Ichigo became a Shinigami via Rukia.
But! When Ichigo's soul chain was cut off by Byakuya and he lost he's power. Urahara told him to find his Shinigami powers within him (inside the that world of boxes). He began searching for his own Shinigami power and realized he can do so using the reiraku and finding the red ribbon; which he did. And that is what Zangetsu is, but now we find out that it wasn't Zangetsu and instead it was Juha Bach since all Quincy's have a bit of him inside them.

So... if Ichigo has yet to use his true Shingami powers, and has been using his Quincy powers (a-la Juha Bach), why did the box which contained his Quincy power have a red ribbon?

Nevermind, KoL's review cleared it up.

 

[CrimsonFire]

I have the admit that ending caught me off guard good plot twist (don't know why I didn't realize that sooner lol lol)

Interesting development for Ichigo here. Basically Ichigo been fighting with his quincy powers as a shinigami this whole time. So how that possible?! Ichigo hollow is his shinigami powers, yet this whole time Ichigo only use his hollow power only as a power up with shinigami state (quincy). Can't wait to see how this plays out

5/5 for me this week

 

[gazz uzumaki]

I still don't get something. Ichigo only recently awakened the memories inside his rieatsu because of Quilge, enabling him to be able to use quincy techniques. And yet the fake zanpakuto, zangetsu, who is a manifestation of Ichigo's quincy powers, has been with Ichigo since almost day one?

 

[MS_Evolution]

Just putting it out there, but when ichigo used mugestsu all his powers didn't go. They transferred to Juha (I know farfetched right). Funny how not too long after Juha and his clique appeared. As for zangetsu being nice to him even if he is Juha, it makes sense, he's in his blood and technically the father of all quincies which ichigo is.

 

[Minagatachi]

Re: new bleach chapter

This weeks chapter is really confusing(for me). But here is how i get it. Juha Bach took 1000 years to collect his power and in all that time he was pretending to be Ichigos zanpakuto. But the thing that i dont get is: how did ichigo have shinigami powers when juha is quinsy....I thought that your zanpakuto gives you shinigami powers...And the other thing that is stupid is that Zangetsu said so much good things to Ichigo and was encouraging him this whole time.....That doesnt sound like Juha at all....dafuq XD

The way I interpreted it is that Hollow Ichigo was Ichigo's Zanpakuto, who merged with a Hollow (Hence turning into Hollow Ichigo). JuGetsu was just pretending to be Ichigo's Zanpakuto, when in actuality Hollow Ichigo was his Zanpakuto who had been merged with a Hollow.

So really:
Hollow Ichigo = Zanpakuto (he has a Zanpakuto because his dad is a Shinigami, and you already know why it's a Hollow)
JuGetsu = The mental psyche or whatever you want to call it appears because his mother is a Quincy (presumably Juha can appear within all Quincies).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how I interpreted it.

 

[Minagatachi]

Ugh....this doesn't make sense.

Zangetsu was the manifestation of Ichigo's Quincy power. Since Juha Bach is the "father of all quincy" the spirit took his form. Which is fine. But why did his Quincy power's manifestation, help him unlock the full power of his Shinigami powers? And why, if those powers were from his quincy side, does Isshin (a full blooded shinigami) have the same powers?

YOU MAKE NO SENSE KUBO! >.<

So Juha/Zangetsu would have helped Ichigo draw power from Hollow Ichigo (His Zanpakuto). So I assume that Isshin would have the same (or similar) Zanpakuto to Hollow Ichigo (Minus the Hollow part, because Isshin's Zanpakuto would never have mixed with a Hollow).

God, this is harder to understand than Itachi's Izanami explanation _@:

 

[Pekoms]

So, with the release of the most recent chapter, a few things have come to mind.
Some people may feel that Kubo's revealing Ichigo as a Quincy comes out of the blue, but does perhaps there were hints?

Looking back, some events Ichigo has been apart of seem to run parallel to those Ishida was apart of.

First up, let's remember that both Ishida and Ichigo have both had moments where they've worn gloves.

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Both required that the two youths partake in extensive training before their gloves were used.
At the same time, the gloves are not only a visible status of acquiring power, but of also losing it...
Both Ishida and Ichigo lost their powers not long after they'd proceeded to wear the gloves.

Even then, there are more parallels to be found, primarily in how both of them regained their powers.

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Notice the location of where they were struck by the weapons.

Perhaps Urahara, fully aware of Ichigo's origins, surmised that Ichigo could regain his powers just like Ishida.
Or, there's also the possibility that Ryūken learned how to restore his son's powers based off of Urahara's research.​

 

[Jinchuriki Brawler]

Anybody else think ichigos fullbring somehow represents what his shinigami powers really are?

 

[Chadm94]

Zangetsu looks Luke Bach it's only a visual representation. Thus far he has always been an allow. I would have to believe his hollow version is his actual blade as he said huge was so long ago.

 

[Chadm94]

Zangetsu looks Luke Bach it's only a visual representation. Thus far he has always been an allow. I would have to believe his hollow version is his actual blade as he said huge was so long ago.

 

[dude honestly]

I recently got into bleach and finished in 2 weeks with the anime and the manga, and for the most part it is a lot better than what I thought it was gonna be.

 

[dude honestly]

I recently got done watching the anime and reading the manga in 2 weeks cause I heard it was good, and I must say it was as good as I heard it was if not even better. But when do the episodes come out and what not.