[Predictions] Bleach Manga 417 Discussion/418 Predictions

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I agree with the whole thing about Bleach reaching DBZ level. =/

But, regardless, that was an amazing chapter. o_o Pretty cool, and things are still managing to gain momentum.

And honestly, about the whole "No Reiatsu" thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he has so much that they can't sense, or, my theory, that he's surpassed "Reiatsu", and has some kind of alternate energy now, that all his Reiatsu converted into.

That simply comes from the fact that the training he went through was Blade Zen (or something like that). Hopefully, all will be explained.

Still, great chapter.

I agree on the no reiatsu thing somewhat.. I believe it has something to do with the training in connection with it being referred to as Blade Zen.. being a meditative state.. true enlightenment, complete peace and connection to the world... all these things would suggest that if one were to achieve Blade Zen... it wouldn't be this awesomely oppressive power that bears down on everyone with it's sheer weight.. but quite the opposite.. note that he merely glances in a direction and sees nothing but buildings and comments on his friends being safe.. a very Zen-like ability.. something along these lines is what I figure the whole no reiatsu thing is headed.. and will probably affect and or define his new power.. and the way in which he fights. . . also note that his entire 3 months of training... took place in a state of meditation.. in order to achieve (Blade) Zen... so that's where I'm thinking this theme and new power is going.... this could also mean that his new power/abilities/attack what have you will be potentially very different from his previous fighting style.. and potentially have a load of philosophy and meaning behind it.. plenty of other thoughts buzzing around in my head.. but I think that's enough rambling for now
 

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I liked this chapter and special Ichigo's new appearence....He looks totally badass, a kind of byakuya's attitude.....Now i think the Aizen is a Gooooooooooooner....
 

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the main question is if aizen loses what then? Will the Houga however u fn spell it lol. Take on a new master? Will it spawn into its on monster? Will someone appear that Aizen is working under?

Way to many question plus this fights gonna take awhile. Some point in this fight Aizen gonna be getting whipped and hes gonna ask how he got so strong. Then a flashback of the training we never saw will happen for a few chapters. Then more fighting but its all gonna be AWESOME!!!
 

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This was an amazing chapter. Ichigo has gotten really strong in the last few chapters of it. I hope Gin doesn't die T_T i really like him and i'd be sad if he died. Orihime will probably heal him, hopefully O.O
 
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Yh this chapter is the begining of somthing great ichigo has not randomly got a power boost he has been training for three months which is much longer than he was in hueco mondo and look how much he progressed in that time first he defeated some peacock arranca and went on to defeating the 6th and the 4th , also ulquiorra was in an advanced state. What I'm basically saying is we shud expect him to be strong in that period of time. ...............have u noticed the top of the handle of tensa zangetsu is like bigger and spread out or is it juz me?
 

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Re: Bleach Chapter 417 Discussion/Chapter 418 Predictions

I know it was awesome to finally see some action, and let's face it, some story developement, but at what cost? Ichigo was yet again given a MONSTER boost out of nowhere.

I hope you all realized how huge is the gap between the Ichigo we knew before this chapter and the one now. He was barely able to stand up to Gin and was unable to do anything against the "un-evolved" Aizen. Now, Aizen just went through two modes, the Hōgyoku mode and the butterfly mode, and with only 3 months in Dangai he's reach Aizen's level (and probably more?).

Again, this manga disappoint me. Kubo is either making the story develop way too slowly or he skips some important character development. Even if he didn't skipped that one, the story is just weak. Bleach can now be considered the proud successor to Dragon Ball Z. Not that it's a bad thing, but no matter what happens, you'll know how it ends.
Agreed. I hope they do some back tracking and filling in the gaps or something, Cuz otherwise I will be highly upset. Thats why I gave it a 3.
 
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Re: Bleach Chapter 417 Discussion/Chapter 418 Predictions

Agreed. I hope they do some back tracking and filling in the gaps or something, Cuz otherwise I will be highly upset. Thats why I gave it a 3.
Don't expect it, it's Kubo's way of a surprise. It would be lame to see his new powers before his fight, we might see flashbacks. People also need to realize that aside from the 200 hour period, Bleach is not about excessive training up front, most aren't humans and most fights are mental for the protagonists. Ichigo has technically had these powers from the beginning, he just didn't know how to use them or it wasn't at the right time for him to begin to learn how to use some of them. Aizen also just got his butt whooped because he underestimated Ichigo, he said there was no way Ichigo could hurt him and in that split second Ichigo attacked, using a very hollow like move we'v seen before from his hollow counterpart.
 
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i have an answer for the no-reiatsu deal, remember when ichigo's dad said ever since aizen transformed he couldnt sense his reiatsu and probably only someone close to his level could sense it? well ichigo didnt hear that, he was busy fighting gin, the reason why his dad gained hope was because ichigo said something about fighting such a monster reiatsu was hopeless. that meant ichigo was the only one able to sense the reiatsu so when ichigo went through training for 3 months(not just normal training either.... this was spacial training with his zampacto) in which he learned for sure the final getsuga tenshou and he had to of learned some other techniques and apparently he learned how to unlock more potential of his blade-hence the new appearence.
 
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Yes, enjoyable chapter, like always. Bleach has such funky artwork. Nevertheless, I am getting tired of Ichigo saving the day on his own.. again.. or like someone said on some other fandom, 'pulling the Deus ex machina out of his arse'..
 

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Re: Bleach Chapter 417 Discussion/Chapter 418 Predictions

I know it was awesome to finally see some action, and let's face it, some story developement, but at what cost? Ichigo was yet again given a MONSTER boost out of nowhere.

Again, this manga disappoint me. Kubo is either making the story develop way too slowly or he skips some important character development. Even if he didn't skipped that one, the story is just weak. Bleach can now be considered the proud successor to Dragon Ball Z. Not that it's a bad thing, but no matter what happens, you'll know how it ends.
I think they're trying something different. i was very disappointed to see they skipped ichigo's internal fight, but i though about it and they will probably go back during this fight and refference it alot. Also, ichigo obtained his hollow mask in 1 week. 3 months is 12 times that long so I'm sure its plenty of time to get super strong.
 

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the main question is if aizen loses what then? Will the Houga however u fn spell it lol. Take on a new master? Will it spawn into its on monster? Will someone appear that Aizen is working under?

Way to many question plus this fights gonna take awhile. Some point in this fight Aizen gonna be getting whipped and hes gonna ask how he got so strong. Then a flashback of the training we never saw will happen for a few chapters. Then more fighting but its all gonna be AWESOME!!!

If aizen loses (which he will after a long protracted battle IMO) then i reckon we will see the introduction of Squad 0 as the battle is ending... perhaps they will come in and end it...

at which point they will recognise isshin and / or be extremely curious about ichigo which will draw him into the upper machinations of Squad 0 and there foes...

also weve not seen anything of hell. and " minus' " at this point if u remember back to the first episode rukias exp of plus and minus...;)

anyways its also my opinion tht weve not seen any vasto lorde yet....

oh and i reckon orihime will work her magic and erase the hogyouku from existance or some sh*t xd
 

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long hair suits him but only like in this chapter.aizen is arrogant.his arrogance will bring his death.i had to say it :D it's kinda familiar though.whatever.but incoming fight will be delirious. *sigh**hearts in eyes* i love that kind of bloody battles :D
 

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hmmm about the Reatsu thingy, didnt Isshin lose his reatsu, maybe he did the same as Ichigo and was for 20 years without reatsu ?
 
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