[Predictions] Bleach Manga 396 Discussion / 397 Prediction

[Kawagiri]

i don't think what happened with ulquiorra and ichigo was really planned...

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if he planned it then why "somehow managed to achieve"
... he didn't plan any of it, it seems pretty much a classic "make it up as you go along" story...

aizen couldn't manipulate that the menos grande early on wouldn't kill him... he couldn't have made it so he awoke powers with renji and be part way towards bankai with kenpachi... he could have been killed... and aizen hasn't manipulated them to let him win those fights otherwise this stuff probably wouldn't have happened.

aizen most likely never knew about ichigo till late on... the only thing he could have done is manipulated the high rate of hollow appearances... but why?


imo this is the real story.

ichigo's high spirit pressure - son of isshin... a captain level shinigami
ichigo's hollow - took rukia's power and along with it possibly a small amount of the hogyoku's power while rukia was a vessel. also his experience with urahara almost turned him into a hollow.
ichigo was meant to lose to ulquiorra as he would have died if he didnt go full hollow. aizen said himself he somehow managed to get more power... he wasn't meant to.

ichigo could have been killed numerous times, if aizen bet on him living then why? he has the hogyoku, he's pretty much killed everyone... ichigo wasn't needed after the disturbance both aizen and the "ryoka" caused within soul society to give aizen more chance to claim the hogyoku.

 

[iain09]

Urahura was testing on Aizen to see the power of the Hōgyoku pushed further. Isshin Kurosaki, and Ryūken Ishida new of what was happening, since they are apparently friends even though one of them is a shinigami and the other is a quincy. Isshin appears to be a royal guardsmen so maybe he was told to protect kurakura town by order of the royal gaurds. If you didn't know yoruichi's family is part of the Royal Gaurds. So she might even know of Ichigo's dad. Why did you think before Ichigo met urahura she new where he lives. Urahura probably knew after Rukia gave some her powers to awaken ichigo's shinigami genes had to be related to Isshin but didn't mention it to him. Of course The first squad is probably or presumed died after his Kido 96 which was a sacrificial kido there is no 1st sqaud captain anymore

 

[TOBI!]

I think you probably have all forgotten about how manipulative Aizen is and makes people go rage, therefore making them be at a disadvantage cause of their hatred. He certainly did not have it all planned, he's making ichigo go all out on him to test the Hyogokuyo probably.

yes, let us focus on the charaters and not the writer and his problems

also aizen is kewl that is all

 

[uzamaki2223]

Do tell me .. If Urahara created Hogyoku , why didn't he fused himself with it if it was not dangerous ?

i was really wondering the same thing

 

[turtlegang]

Laughable & Predictable. However, Im still a fan. My fan-tastic take: Zangetsu is a Royal Guard reborn in Ichigo. Tensa Zangetsu (Ichigo) is a Royal Guard in physical form. Isshin, Yourichi, and Urahara are also royal guards, maybe Yama-ji too. Ichigo keeps dieing and coming back because he has super powers which was partially from the Hyogoku (when the power/ability was transfered from Rukia) Maybe Aizen did planned that from the beginning. However, Ichigo's inner world is constantly condensing his reitsu when he Bankais, therefore keeps changing his form and developing a Hyogoku inside him. lol absurd... but it would put Ichigo on par with Aizen. Ichigo's next fight with Aizen, he will be in Hollow2, almost dies with a would be mortal wound, auto-regenerates and is consumed in anger (ala the Hulk), consciously turns into Hollow3 (w/horns or something), beats the sh** out of Aizen... wakes up to realize that he was under Aizen's spell and actually fighting with Yama-Ji! Muahahaha.. KUBO RECYLED!!

 

[iain09]

Laughable & Predictable. However, Im still a fan. My fan-tastic take: Zangetsu is a Royal Guard reborn in Ichigo. Tensa Zangetsu (Ichigo) is a Royal Guard in physical form. Isshin, Yourichi, and Urahara are also royal guards, maybe Yama-ji too. Ichigo keeps dieing and coming back because he has super powers which was partially from the Hyogoku (when the power/ability was transfered from Rukia) Maybe Aizen did planned that from the beginning. However, Ichigo's inner world is constantly condensing his reitsu when he Bankais, therefore keeps changing his form and developing a Hyogoku inside him. lol absurd... but it would put Ichigo on par with Aizen. Ichigo's next fight with Aizen, he will be in Hollow2, almost dies with a would be mortal wound, auto-regenerates and is consumed in anger (ala the Hulk), consciously turns into Hollow3 (w/horns or something), beats the sh** out of Aizen... wakes up to realize that he was under Aizen's spell and actually fighting with Yama-Ji! Muahahaha.. KUBO RECYLED!!

Actually Urahura is not part of the royal gaurds he only has connections with them which they try to pretend to not have anything to do with you after what happen with couple of the Captains and vice captain turning in to vizards. It was direct order from the royal gaurds to make the consuls to banish him from soul society. There will be a time like the beginning battle against aizen that his hollow will lend him his power in exchange to be the new ruler of the hollow world in place of aizen.

 

[brianS]

i think aizen is just too smart and powerful and i dont think of Urahara and yurichi as a real treat even tho they may know things that might be troublesome. ichigo will find a way

 

[iain09]

Aizen Zunpaktou only can work easily if someone is not calm. This was seen before momo was stabbed mistakenly by hitsugaya when Ichigo first appeared. Hitsugaya then was to angry including the others except Ichigo, Aizen apparently Controlled Momo and the others at the very begining after aizen's fake death. If Ichigo can keep calm and more focused with the Will power of Zangetsu and the Resurrection form (Fused with Hollow Ichigo nothing like a vizard) He would have to slice and dice Aizen's entire body in one big slash leaving no chance or regeneration.

 

[Caliburn]

Aizen Zunpaktou only can work easily if someone is not calm. This was seen before momo was stabbed mistakenly by hitsugaya when Ichigo first appeared. Hitsugaya then was to angry including the others except Ichigo, Aizen apparently Controlled Momo and the others at the very begining after aizen's fake death. If Ichigo can keep calm and more focused with the Will power of Zangetsu and the Resurrection form (Fused with Hollow Ichigo nothing like a vizard) He would have to slice and dice Aizen's entire body in one big slash leaving no chance or regeneration.

That's not true =/

Aizen can just sneak up behind everyone's back and kill them, like he did with Haribel. It has nothing to do with being calm or not.
Though Aizen likes it to make his opponents mad, it doesn't really matter as he has got hundreds of options, whether the opponent is calm or not.
Besides people that are mad or most of the time easier fooled than those who are calm, that has nothing to do with his zanpaktou.

And Ichigo calmness has nothing to do with his chances of defeating Aizen, that's just because he hasn't seen his shikai yet, thus he can't manipulate him like the others. Also the reason why Ichigo is calm was because he was waiting for a chance to strike Aizen.
Be honest, Ichigo is one of the most uncalm and restless people in the Bleach universe -_-'

 

[uzamaki2223]

u gotta believe that Urahara and Yuroichi are threats to aizen if for no reason other than they were once captains and neither of them lost their powers. Especailly Urahara, who Aizen hates. plus, other than Aizen, who knew more about the Hyogouku and the Vizards then Urahara? He probably got a back up for that and mayb he's a vizard himself.