[Theory] Blackbeard Theory

[Skylar Knight]

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-I thought of this myself, but still not sure if this hasn't been posted before-

Blackbeard theory​

At the moment it's unknown how Marshall D. Teach managed to steal Whitebeard's devil fruit powers. I have a theory about this and how Blackbeard is able to have two devil fruit powers at the same time. I'm not sure if this has been posted before or not, so you might have read it somewhere else.

As of now, we know that Blackbeard has two Devil Fruits within him, the Yami Yami no Mi and the Gura Gura no Mi. There are certain beliefs that prior to obtaining these two, he has a Zoan-type fruit. A possible name for the could be: Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Cerberus.

There are certain instances that back-up this claim. The Blackbeard Pirates' Jolly Roger, Shanks' wound, and the mere Existence of a Cerberus in the One Piece World.


Jolly Roger:

The Jolly Roger, or the Pirate Flag, help determine who belong to whose crew. The designs usually reflect the interest of the captain. At other times it may be physical resemblance or the symbols behind them. In some sense, there is a reason or story for every Jolly Roger design.

For some reason, the design of the flag of the Blackbeard Pirates show three skulls side by side. There hasn't been any explicit reasons for this but it might be revealed.

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Shanks' Wound:

One other instance that aids the Cerberus claim, it is the wound on the left eye of Shanks. It consists of three diagonal scratch marks.

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In Chapter 434, Shanks speaks with Whitebeard about Ace and eventually about Blackbeard as well. Shanks tells him that it was Blackbeard that caused the wound.

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It was also shown that Blackbeard had some kind of claw weapon, just as you can see here:

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He might use this (iron?) claw because of his instinct as a Cerberus, or it might just be a hint from Oda that this guy really has a third devil fruit, a Zoan-Type.


Existence:

"The mere stating and showing of its name and being respectively signals belief in its existence."

Well somehow, this quote seems to be true. In Chapter 444 there was shown a Cerberus in Thriller Bark.

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... and as you can see, it was referred to as "Cerberus" by the weak-trio, thus stating it as a known beast in the One Piece world, real or not. This also proves the possibility of a devil fruit with Cerberus powers.


That is my theory about Blackbeard's powers, and I believe he has three devil fruit powers (The dark dark fruit, the tumor tumor fruit, and the Cerberus Cerberus fruit). Tell me what you think, thanks for your attention.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

It makes sense, but that doesn't explain how he was able to ingest the Yami Yami Fruit. He should've died! Lol

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

EPIC
i happen to agree now but what advantages would it give him , if he is on all 4s he wont be able to use his gura gura no mi, which has only been shown using arms and hands to create cracks in the air and stuff

 

[Skylar Knight]

It makes sense, but that doesn't explain how he was able to ingest the Yami Yami Fruit. He should've died! Lol

A Cerberus is a dog with three individual heads, which would imply that Blackbeard can have three different devil fruits. The Cerberus is an underworld creature, so Blackbeard might have the ability to steal the "souls" of the devil fruits.

EPIC
i happen to agree now but what advantages would it give him , if he is on all 4s he wont be able to use his gura gura no mi, which has only been shown using arms and hands to create cracks in the air and stuff

What advantage? The Cerberus Cerberus fruit, if real, gave him the ability to gain two other devil fruit powers

 

[ziggyZ]

I read on a site (not going to mention but it's known) and it was about the same topic as yours but it said that he possessed the Zoan-fruit which was the complete opposite of Sengoku's Buddha fruit...a friut which turns you into the Devil itself.

 

[Skylar Knight]

I read on a site (not going to mention but it's known) and it was about the same topic as yours but it said that he possessed the Zoan-fruit which was the complete opposite of Sengoku's Buddha fruit...a friut which turns you into the Devil itself.

So it's not the Cerberus Cerberus fruit, but the Devil Devil fruit? ... To be honest I like my theory better, but that's just my opinion U_U

 

[ziggyZ]

What advantage? The Cerberus Cerberus fruit, if real, gave him the ability to gain two other devil fruit powers

I think he attained WB's DF by just absorbing the the power itself from WB. Like how he did against Ace but that was just to temporarily nullify it, whereas this time he completely 'sucked it out'. So to speak.

 

[ziggyZ]

So it's not the Cerberus Cerberus fruit, but the Devil Devil fruit? ... To be honest I like my theory better, but that's just my opinion U_U

No I think it's called the Human-Human fruit, model: Devil

 

[Skylar Knight]

I think he attained WB's DF by just absorbing the the power itself from WB. Like how he did against Ace but that was just to temporarily nullify it, whereas this time he completely 'sucked it out'. So to speak.

Possible, but I'm not really interested in how he stole it, but rather how he is able to have more than one devil fruit.

No I think it's called the Human-Human fruit, model: Devil

It would make sense if it was that. Both the Cerberus theory and the Devil theory are quite possible actually.

 

[Aertes]

A Cerberus is a dog with three individual heads, which would imply that Blackbeard can have three different devil fruits. The Cerberus is an underworld creature, so Blackbeard might have the ability to steal the "souls" of the devil fruits.

yeah but eating two devil fruits result the destruction of the body...not the head.Even if it's tree different heads they are connected to same body...
It would make more sense to me that the Cerberus fruit gives the ability of having 3 souls/spirits that each one can have a different fruit ability...just saying...

 

[Skylar Knight]

yeah but eating two devil fruits result the destruction of the body...not the head.Even if it's tree different heads they are connected to same body...
It would make more sense to me that the Cerberus fruit gives the ability of having 3 souls/spirits that each one can have a different fruit ability...just saying...

That's what I was implying from the start actually, and I just simply told the person about the connection between the Cerberus' three heads and having three devil fruit powers.

 

[ziggyZ]

How about this:
He already possessed either the Cerberus or Devil modeled fruits but he knew that he couldn't have it and then consume another one.
So he was seeking to find the Yami Yami no mi because he knew that with that fruit he can absorb other devil fruits so he waited until he his hands on that fruit so he can absorb the Cerberus/Devil modeled fruit later.

Thoughts?

 

[WhistleBlower]

I enjoyed reading this theory very very much

It seems legit, you've put up some strong arguments but i'm not sure that his only got three now?

remember Jinbe talking to the straw hat crew at fishman island about blackbeard stealing other devil fruit users, abilities??

So, there is one flaw in your theory about his possession of 3 devil fruits ( one being the Cerberus fruit ) relating to his Jolly Roger. It is that Jimbei said himself that his stealing other people's devil fruit powers soo, like the reason for having 3 skulls in the BlackBeard pirates jolly roger can be contradicted.

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What do you think about this counter argument hehe

 

[Skylar Knight]

How about this:
He already possessed either the Cerberus or Devil modeled fruits but he knew that he couldn't have it and then consume another one.
So he was seeking to find the Yami Yami no mi because he knew that with that fruit he can absorb other devil fruits so he waited until he his hands on that fruit so he can absorb the Cerberus/Devil modeled fruit later.

Thoughts?

Again, quite possible. But again, I like the Cerberus theory better U_U

I enjoyed reading this theory very very much

It seems legit, you've put up some strong arguments but i'm not sure that his only got three now?

remember Jinbe talking to the straw hat crew at fishman island about blackbeard stealing other devil fruit users, abilities??

So, there is one flaw in your theory about his possession of 3 devil fruits ( one being the Cerberus fruit ) relating to his Jolly Roger. It is that Jimbei said himself that his stealing other people's devil fruit powers soo, like the reason for having 3 skulls in the BlackBeard pirates jolly roger can be contradicted.

Thanks, I'm glad you like it ^_^

I've been thinking about it actually, and I have a small theory about that too. I still think Blackbeard can only have three devil fruit powers, but I also think he can replace them. If he don't want it anymore, he can replace the tumor tumor fruit with another devil fruit power.

 

[ziggyZ]

I enjoyed reading this theory very very much

It seems legit, you've put up some strong arguments but i'm not sure that his only got three now?

remember Jinbe talking to the straw hat crew at fishman island about blackbeard stealing other devil fruit users, abilities??

So, there is one flaw in your theory about his possession of 3 devil fruits ( one being the Cerberus fruit ) relating to his Jolly Roger. It is that Jimbei said himself that his stealing other people's devil fruit powers soo, like the reason for having 3 skulls in the BlackBeard pirates jolly roger can be contradicted.

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What do you think about this counter argument hehe

I believe he is going to give all those he obtained to his 'Level 6' nakama by absorbing the DF and somehow (later explained) transferring them.
I also believe he'll eventually obtain Jozu's diamond DF and give it Shiryuu who'll fight Zoro. I also believe this because Zoro fought a man who was steel and at the end he said "are you going to go cut diamond" I think this was also a foreshadowing of Zoro fighting a swordsman who was diamond.

 

[Rand al'Thor]

pretty good theory.. but three dfs is a bit of overkill..lets see .-.

 

[kmrasengan]

I believe he is going to give all those he obtained to his 'Level 6' nakama by absorbing the DF and somehow (later explained) transferring them.
I also believe he'll eventually obtain Jozu's diamond DF and give it Shiryuu who'll fight Zoro. I also believe this because Zoro fought a man who was steel and at the end he said "are you going to go cut diamond" I think this was also a foreshadowing of Zoro fighting a swordsman who was diamond.

Love the final idead, but i would hate that Jozu's DF went to Shiryu cause i really don't like him. But if it was for Zoro to kick his ass then so be it.xd

OT: The cerberus could be a good idea, i always wandered why his flag was 3 heads, but so far i tought him stealing DF's was because his Yami Yami no Mi, and because i don't remember who, but someone said that BB had a special body different from the other humans that allowed him to have 2 DF's at the same time. Again a nice theory that i enjoyed reading.

 

[Ōkami]

didn't Marco say Blackbeard didn't have a normal body?

I'm guessing his body has a unique ability to use more then one devil fruit the main mystery is how did he take the Gura Gura no Mi

 

[ziggyZ]

didn't Marco say Blackbeard didn't have a normal body?

I'm guessing his body has a unique ability to use more then one devil fruit the main mystery is how did he take the Gura Gura no Mi

Well Skylar's theory and mine are the only 2 most plausible ones.

 

[Anduril]

This is better than the zoro is fishman theory indeed ...

But it seems unlikely to say the least. As was mentioned its been stated that they are hunting down powerful DF users, so naturally it would mean more number of DF's are being absorbed by BB. When I think about it, he may have found a way to make the fruit appear immediately after the said persons death, so he may now be sharing DFs with his entire crew