Black Zetsu is smarter than Itachi

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Eh, idk if he is smarter... He held all the cards from the beginning... by altering the story he made sure nobody knew what actually happened.
 

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Didn't Black Zetsu fail to revive Kaguya repeatedly over at least 800 years.
 

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He manipulated Madara, who manipulated Obito, who manipulated Itachi

obito was never able to manipulate itachi. Bcoz if wud have ever then if wud have got shisui's eye from, have nine tails captured already before shippuden and worst of all- have itachi kill his own brother.
 

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Itachi wasnt being manipulated...he was gathering info on the akatuski secretly for Konoha/Hiruzen..but if you include Itachi as apart of the clan..then yes BZ manipulated him along with the Uchiha

BZ praised itachi for his smartness dat means he did not manipulate itachi.
 

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But BZ didn't only manipulate the Uchiha, he created the whole story of ninja. Itachi is within that story.

By that reasoning BZ > Everyone...

All you really are is an Itachi hater. Your thread has no proof other than that we found out BZ manipulated the tablet. We still don't know if Itachi fell for that manipulation or if he saw through it. All you have in this thread is hate.
 

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obito was never able to manipulate itachi. Bcoz if wud have ever then if wud have got shisui's eye from, have nine tails captured already before shippuden and worst of all- have itachi kill his own brother.

Kept him in fear

Ruled him through akatsuki

Abided by his rules

^^Yep, looks like manipulation to me :|
 

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if he's that smart, then how come he betrayed someone who continuously took dumps on every last attempt at sealing him with ease for someone who sweats getting sealed and will probably get sealed again?
 

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Obito wasnt manipuating Itachi he just hide his real intentions and identity.
 

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Black Zetsu just has more powers, I would say they are equally smart. Orochimaru=Itachi=Black Zetsu>Madara in terms of genius.
 

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This is all week to week. In a few weeks we'll all be sitting here talking about how boss it is that Madara's made his comeback, how BZ was a pathetic pawn and Kaguya got owned.
 

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Kept him in fear

Ruled him through akatsuki

Abided by his rules

^^Yep, looks like manipulation to me :|

1. Itachi didn't fear Obito/Tobi, he was just weary of his true intentions and took precessions.

2. Itachi joined Akatsuki on his own and followed the rules to stay in to be a spy, of course he was "ruled."

3. All of the Akatsuki members abided by his "rules" less they want to be thrown out or killed.


None of your points are plausible in this case.
 

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1) Black Zetsu is a reflection of Kaguya's will, therefore they are equally intelligent.

2) The fact that there are people so passionately trying to come up with someone smarter than Itachi is a testament to his intelligence in itself.
 

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Itachi wasnt being manipulated...he was gathering info on the akatuski secretly for Konoha/Hiruzen..but if you include Itachi as apart of the clan..then yes BZ manipulated him along with the Uchiha

Itachi, with Shisui were the only ones to stand out from their clan and not get dragged into the same pile with the rest of the Uchiha. None of them were bound by the curse of hatred.

Itachi apparently was kind, sensitive, pactifist, never blamed Konoha and didnt want to take revenge on anyone, unlike Madara, Indra, Sasuke, and the rest of the clan who was planning the coup d'etat.

So, in short, no. Itachi/Shisui were different than the rest of the Uchiha, they didnt get manipulated at all = fail troll thread
 

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Itachi, with Shisui were the only ones to stand out from their clan and not get dragged into the same pile with the rest of the Uchiha. None of them were bound by the curse of hatred.

Itachi apparently was kind, sensitive, pactifist, never blamed Konoha and didnt want to take revenge on anyone, unlike Madara, Indra, Sasuke, and the rest of the clan who was planning the coup d'etat.

So, in short, no. Itachi/Shisui were different than the rest of the Uchiha, they didnt get manipulated at all = fail troll thread

BZ created the Shinobi system. So yes they were affected. They are shinobi are they not?
 

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BZ created the Shinobi system. So yes they were affected. They are shinobi are they not?

The shinobi system is what is going to lead to Kaguya's downfall. BZ, in the end, will fail miserably by having his mother sealed again. (thanks to one Uchiha, which apparently BZ manipulated so well).

So no, BZ is not smarter than Itachi and his ultimate plan is going to fail miserably ^^
 

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Well of course, Itachi was a blithering idiot. It's not hard to be smarter than someone like that.
 
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