Black Zetsu is smarter than Itachi

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In the end, Itachi only failed.

BZ singlehandly manipulated everyone.

BZ takes the top spot for NV's best genius.
 

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You know who Bz didnt manipulate? Kaguya thus ur thread is invalid
 

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Well, BZ didn't manipulate Itachi, so no.
 

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Itachi wasnt being manipulated...he was gathering info on the akatuski secretly for Konoha/Hiruzen..but if you include Itachi as apart of the clan..then yes BZ manipulated him along with the Uchiha
 

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We get it, you don't like Itachi.

Get off the fools **** and do something more productive then bashing a character with no solid proof...
 

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Nah, Itachi was never bound by his clan. Meaning all the uchiha manipulating that zetsu influenced didn't apply to him. He also didn't kill anyone to acquire power, it was given to him by shisui. The massacre was a mission for the stability of the shinobi world as a whole.

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Nah, Itachi was never bound by his clan. Meaning all the uchiha manipulating that zetsu influenced didn't apply to him. He also didn't kill anyone to acquire power, it was given to him by shisui. The massacre was a mission for the stability of the shinobi world as a whole.

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But BZ didn't only manipulate the Uchiha, he created the whole story of ninja. Itachi is within that story.
 

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But BZ didn't only manipulate the Uchiha, he created the whole story of ninja. Itachi is within that story.

Lol that logic though! I guess that in a twisted sense you're right.
 

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Itachi's farewell got Sauce to see the Kages which led to him going back to Konoha and he now with Naruto will beat Kaguya/BZ

So he didn't really fail, he actually kinda got what he wanted and fcked up their plans at the same time.
 

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HOW WAS MADARA MANIPULATED ? did i miss something ?

Well Madara acted according the uchinha tablet which BZ had changed according to his interests. That being said, the IT was madara's downfall because it allowed BZ to have access to the chakra of all the people in earth and thus this allowed him to overpower Madara and use in him as a vessel for Kaguya.
 
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"In the end, Itachi only failed" XD Nope

And Orochi is the smartest in NV
 
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