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You seem to be confused, having similar elements and straight up mirroring are two different things.

Black Clover essentially Is Naruto, just switch out Ninja for mages, Hokage for Wizard King, Edo/industrial era for Medieval/fantasy era and so on.

Don't get me wrong, it's an alright manga, but the amount of similarities goes beyond typical Shonen elements.
What you just said is typical for every shonen lol

Let's say One Piece...change the pirates with Ninjas,Pirate King with Hokage and so on and you get Naruto...
 

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What you just said is typical for every shonen lol

Let's say One Piece...change the pirates with Ninjas,Pirate King with Hokage and so on and you get Naruto...
See, now you're just trying to grasp a straws to make a point.

Once again you're confusing using the same elements with blatant copy and pasting.

Seriously, what is with everyone on the base being so whiny that someone has a different opinion today?
 

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See, now you're just trying to grasp a straws to make a point.

Once again you're confusing using the same elements with blatant copy and pasting.

Seriously, what is with everyone on the base being so whiny that someone has a different opinion today?
no one is whiny...you are just comparing a typical shonen element thinking it's Naruto's copy...

by your logic everything is Naruto copy then >_> Black Clover has a whole different ring than Naruto...though main objectives are similar everything else is different.

I can give you at least one more example of another shonen which is like Naruto but at the same time...isn't.
 

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no one is whiny...you are just comparing a typical shonen element thinking it's Naruto's copy...

by your logic everything is Naruto copy then >_> Black Clover has a whole different ring than Naruto...though main objectives are similar everything else is different.

I can give you at least one more example of another shonen which is like Naruto but at the same time...isn't.
For the third time now, and pay attention because this is extra credit, you're confusing typical elements with complete copy and pasting.

You're not using my logic, you're taking my logic and twisting it so you can say I'm wrong. Like read the first one hundred chapters of Naruto and Black Clover. Like seriously, do it.
 

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For the third time now, and pay attention because this is extra credit, you're confusing typical elements with complete copy and pasting.

You're not using my logic, you're taking my logic and twisting it so you can say I'm wrong. Like read the first one hundred chapters of Naruto and Black Clover. Like seriously, do it.
I did and I haven't see what you are seeing.You are using copying and pasting very much but it's not even copy and pasting.

Again BC and Naruto have similar ideas but attack it differently.

First of BC has mages...Naruto has ninjas.

Every mage in some way has a unique magic where in Naruto everyone is using same and other variations of same jutsu.

MC has different magic than everyone else which again is different than Naruto...he has Demon Fox but still uses same jutsu as everyone else does or a variation of it.

How come you aren't saying Boku no Hero Academia is a copy and paste of Naruto?

Midoriya and Naruto has OP powers.
Both manga has exams.
Both manga have rivals.
Both manga have groups.
In both manga MC wants to be the best.

Is BnHA Naruto's copy as well then? Is everything Naruto's copy then? hmmmm
 

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All shonen manga are similar in one way or another. I mean it's a basic formula. Young male main character+a goal to be the best+unique abilities+a rival that either hates you or was your childhood friend= Shonen Manga. Then the creator adds his own touches threw world building.

I do think BC is a manga that was inspired a lot by Naruto but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The creator knew Naruto was ending and a lot of those people were going to look for something to transition to. And boom a story the gives you the feel of a Naruto and is at the same time different.
 
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All shonen manga are similar in one way or another. I mean it's a basic formula. Young male main character+a goal to be the best+unique abilities+a rival that either hates you or was your childhood friend= Shonen Manga. Then the creator adds his own touches threw world building.
Toriko never had that formula tho, aside from the unique abilities.
 

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Okay...what about recent examples like The Promised Neverland or Kimetsu No Yaiba? Shonens that don't follow that formula entirely are the more interesting ones.
there are many which follows that example and that's what Vallhalla is saying...of course not every Shonen will follow same idea
 

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Okay...what about recent examples like The Promised Neverland or Kimetsu No Yaiba? Shonens that don't follow that formula entirely are the more interesting ones.
I get what your saying. Things that go off the rails a bit or try to be different are amazing an fun to read. But they all have shonen qualities even if they are very small. But everyone is allowed an opinion. My original point was just that Shonen branches off from other shonen from the past like a family tree. Black Clover is a branch of Narutos and that's fine.
 

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Speaking of Naruto....Shueisha officially said that they want Black Clover to be the next Naruto.


I hope this doesn't end up like the Toriko situation where they pushed Toriko up with Dragon Ball/One Piece with the crossovers.
there are many which follows that example and that's what Vallhalla is saying...of course not every Shonen will follow same idea
I get what your saying. Things that go off the rails a bit or try to be different are amazing an fun to read. But they all have shonen qualities even if they are very small. But everyone is allowed an opinion. My original point was just that Shonen branches off from other shonen from the past like a family tree. Black Clover is a branch of Narutos and that's fine.
I know but what I'm saying is that not most shonens follow that trend....especially to Black Clover's extent.
 

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Speaking of Naruto....Shueisha officially said that they want Black Clover to be the next Naruto.


I hope this doesn't end up like the Toriko situation where they pushed Toriko up with Dragon Ball/One Piece with the crossovers.




I know but what I'm saying is that not most shonens follow that trend....especially to Black Clover's extent.
hopefully anime will still be seasonal :((((((((
 

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hopefully anime will still be seasonal :((((((((
Wow, BC has like 120ish chapters atm? Yeah it could definitely be a long runner lol. For comparison, Toriko had around 135 chapters when the anime first aired and the anime ended up being a long runner.

Now that Shueisha said they want BC to be the next Naruto, it could very well mean this will be a long running anime.
 

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Wow, BC has like 120ish chapters atm? Yeah it could definitely be a long runner lol. For comparison, Toriko had around 135 chapters when the anime first aired and the anime ended up being a long runner.

Now that Shueisha said they want BC to be the next Naruto, it could very well mean this will be a long running anime.
Just focus on Boruto ffs >_>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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