Bijuu Susanoo misconception

[SenseiSama]

A lot of people think that Sasuke relying on bijuu to match Naruto is a sign that he's weaker but what he did was literally no different to Senjutsu users relying on NE.

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He took a source of energy that's not his own and controlled it using his OWN power, he used his eyes to control bijuu chakra same way Naruto uses his body to control NE. The use of bijuu totally depends on the user's dojutsu skill and power level no different to using a weapon.



In other words, Sasuke's bijuu Susanoo was 100% his own feat because it's not something that can be done without his talent for ninjutsu. If what he did was considered relying on handout then the same logic should apply to Senjutsu users.

 

[Lyke]

Conclusion: Sasuke > Naruto

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

He still lost though.

 

[Nattana]

The only difference is that natural energy is pretty much all the time around you, while Bijuu... you don't carry them in pokeballs or something.

But overall you're correct. Sasuke used his power to get more power. That's called being resourceful.

 

[Lyke]

He still lost though.

Isnt it like 1:16am in India, go to sleep and Sasuke solos

 

[Umari Senju]

Absorbing the bijuu chakra wasn't meant to match Naruto's power. Sasuke was simply out to crush Naruto utterly and completely. It was a grand display of ability like Madara did with the Gokage. He didn't need Perfect Susanoo to finish them off but he wanted to display how truly helpless they were before him.

Same applies to Sasuke in that he wanted to crush Naruto (and those bonds) with everything he had. It was actually Naruto who had match Sasuke by having Kurama draw NE from the surface of the entire planet to match Sasuke's bijuu powered Indra arrow.

There was no one is stronger than the other. They were matching each other tit-for-tat. No more, no less.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

A lot of people think that Sasuke relying on bijuu to match Naruto is a sign that he's weaker but what he did was literally no different to Senjutsu users relying on NE.

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He took a source of energy that's not his own and controlled it using his OWN power, he used his eyes to control bijuu chakra same way Naruto uses his body to control NE. The use of bijuu totally depends on the user's dojutsu skill and power level no different to using a weapon.



In other words, Sasuke's bijuu Susanoo was 100% his own feat because it's not something that can be done without his talent for ninjutsu. If what he did was considered relying on handout then the same logic should apply to Senjutsu users.

sasuke still needed their chakra. Something sasuke doesn't have access to. Naruto always has access to ne.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Isnt it like 1:16am in India, go to sleep and Sasuke solos

Actually its 1.48 am and its too early for me to sleep and Sasuke lost.

 

[Esdez]

also Sasuke doesn't constantly begging for power like Naruto to Kurama :elmo:

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

also Sasuke doesn't constantly begging for power like Naruto to Kurama :elmo:

Sasuke begged Obito to transplant Itachi's eyes...

 

[SenseiSama]

Absorbing the bijuu chakra wasn't meant to match Naruto's power. Sasuke was simply out to crush Naruto utterly and completely. It was a grand display of ability like Madara didnwitj the Gokage. He didn't need Perfect Susanoo to finish them off but he wanted to display how truly helpless they were before him.

Same applies to Sasuke in that he wanted to crush Naruto (and those bonds) with everything he had. It was actually Naruto who had match Sasuke by having Kurama draw NE from the surface of the entire planet to match Sasuke's bijuu powered Indra arrow.

There was no one is stronger than the other. They were matching each other tit-for-tat. No more, no less.

It was meant to, Sasuke knew Naruto wasn't using his full power and wanted him to use the strongest version of his avatar, the amount of energy Kurama gathered for Naruto equates to the amount of energy Sasuke gained from the bijuu, they balanced each other out by both using their respective powers to control external sources of energy.

sasuke still needed their chakra. Something sasuke doesn't have access to. Naruto always has access to ne.

Except NE is not originally the Senjutsu user's power that's why they have to absorb it and activate it, only people born with Senjutsu are Kaguya's children.

Every other Senjutsu user relies on a power that isn't their own, the use of bijuu chakra is no different to use of NE. In addition, Naruto uses RSM which also relies on bijuu chakra so Sasuke is just fighting him on equal grounds.



And part of the point of this thread is to say using bijuu chakra is still a body/eye feat so it's a part of their power. Bijuus are weapons no different to Sasori's puppets or a samurai's sword.


And need doesn't need bijuu chakra, he used them because they were the quickest way to force Naruto into going all out, don't forget he can use Preta so there's literally no way he can run out of chakra to fight Naruto.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yes agreed HIS rinnegan feat, not nagato or anybody else.

 

[patrickscott]

Sigh, if his emotions were in check and he used his full intelligence, he would have wiped the floor with RSM Naruto like all the other times but plot.

O.T: I agree it's nice to see some maturity coming from the base 3 years later. <.<

 

[Detonator99]

also Sasuke doesn't constantly begging for power like Naruto to Kurama :elmo:

But isn't it funny how in the spam of day he used more biju chakra then naruto in his hole life?:elmo:

 

[Amenotejikara]

But isn't it funny how in the spam of day he used more biju chakra then naruto in his hole life?:elmo:

He used some of the 8.5 not all of it.

 

[Detonator99]

He used some of the 8.5 not all of it.

Nope it was all of it, unless you can prove that it wasn't.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Nope it was all of it, unless you can prove that it wasn't.

Bijuus fall unconscious when all their chakra is gone.

 

[LordRaikage]

Jesus Christ these hypocritical idiots.

 

[Detonator99]

Bijuus fall unconscious when all their chakra is gone.

Do you have proof that they werent unconcious? because if i remember correctly by the time that sasuke released the bijus the kurama inside naruto had also already wake up (this is why he was able to release IT along with sasuke) meaning the other bijus had also time to recover their chakra since their chakra was pulled a lot earlier.

And also kurama had already confirmed that sasuke toked all of their chakra in VIZ when stated that he was putting "All of the disseminated chakra in to one".

 

[UnknownJin]

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