bijuu mode naruto vs. the previous hokages (one on one)
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@Itachi Namikaze
I don't have any scenario or anything, but my opinion and suggesting that the First Hokage could win a battle against Naruto, in Bijuu Mode, was do to hype from Kishi in the Manga.
The First Hokage's Genes (Mokuton Creation) was said to be capable of taming or suppress the Tailed-Beast. Naruto's Bijuu Mode is similar to the power of Kyuubi himself. However, Naruto's Bijuu Mode was not complete and if it's true that the First Hokage was capable of controlling the Kyuubi (or Tailed-Beast), like that Manga stated, then the First Hokage winning the battle against Naruto would be possible. He might have his difficulties, but I sure he could win.
Also, being that Naruto isn't in complete Bijuu Mode, the First Hokage is not fighting the Kyuubi himself, but a weaken state of his being. Naruto also act as a medium to the Kyuubi while in Bijuu Mode. The First Hokage would just have to remove/separate Naruto from Kyuubi with his Mokuton Jutsu.
@Allan Hoshigaki
I understand that Minato has speed and Fuuinjutsu (Sealing Techniques) to his arsenal, but Naruto's defense, speed, and attack has increase or surpass that of Minato's while he is in Bijuu Mode. Bijuu Mode gives Naruto more to his arsenal and the upper advantage that can dominant over Minato's speed and Fuuinjutsu.
Minato's has Fuuinjutsu, but what can that do. It would only end the match in a "Draw" and would serve no true victory for Minato. He also has his Space/Time Barrier. That Jutsu can only be utilize a short amount of times in battle, especially if it's used countless times to counter Bijuu Ball's from the Kyuubi (Naruto's Bijuu Mode Bijuudama). He want have enough stamina in battle to utilize the technique repeatedly. Even if he does utilize the technique, he would have to be out of range from the aftermath of the explosion of the Bijuudama Technique.
Also, consider that this fight is a disadvantage to some characters of the opposite side, I think the "Thread Starter" should have place restrictions or taken off restrictions, such as: Naruto's time limit in Bijuu Mode which is 5 minutes, Second Hokage's Edo Tensei, etc. These can possibly help determine the winner without having to find loopholes.
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You said Hashirama didn't take control of Kurama in his fight with Madara when in fact he did. That's my point.
You can't really say that because we don't know how the fight went.
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hashirama would lose so would madara
hashirama cant protect from TBB so he out
this is how it goes naruto jumps in the air and forms a TBB shoots it at Hashirama and he dies
naruto could do the same to Madara but i think to beat him he would have to use close combat and he is fast enogh to do so easily
hashirama cant protect from TBB so he out
this is how it goes naruto jumps in the air and forms a TBB shoots it at Hashirama and he dies
naruto could do the same to Madara but i think to beat him he would have to use close combat and he is fast enogh to do so easily
Blaze Release
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The only person im sure would win is hashirama.
Look at it this way. The ms was said to control the fox, madara had the ems which you could argue would strengthen his control of the fox and yet hashirama wrestled it away from him and used it against him.
Secondly mokouton as its been said suppresses chakra as weve seen with yamato doing this and participating in naruto's training. Current naruto might have full control of the fox and you could argue that therefore hashirama cannot wrestle it from him, but that doesnt mean he cannot suppress its chakra. If he can which i believe he could, naruto would be left with sm and he isnt winning in sm
Look at it this way. The ms was said to control the fox, madara had the ems which you could argue would strengthen his control of the fox and yet hashirama wrestled it away from him and used it against him.
Secondly mokouton as its been said suppresses chakra as weve seen with yamato doing this and participating in naruto's training. Current naruto might have full control of the fox and you could argue that therefore hashirama cannot wrestle it from him, but that doesnt mean he cannot suppress its chakra. If he can which i believe he could, naruto would be left with sm and he isnt winning in sm
Allan Hoshigaki
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thank you put in great words like i said naruto would not beat hashirama i told another person this aswell ... well at least tried but i think he gets the point now
TouchMyMangos
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Hmmm... It's quite hard, but I'll say:
Hashirama 50% (mokuton)
Tobirama 35%
Sarutobi 30%
Minato 35%
Tsunade 20%
the % is the potential I estimate of each char's possibility to win agaist BM Naruto... The first 2 are just speculations though... U_U
Hashirama 50% (mokuton)
Tobirama 35%
Sarutobi 30%
Minato 35%
Tsunade 20%
the % is the potential I estimate of each char's possibility to win agaist BM Naruto... The first 2 are just speculations though... U_U
Itachi Namikaze
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How would he suppress the Kyuubi chakra?
He would have to catch Naruto first, and I'm sure you saw how fast Naruto is.
I'm also sure you read the chapter where Naruto, with a tiny fragment of the 9-tails power destroyed the largest mokuton attack that we have yet seen.
And all the times that chakra has been suppressed Naruto, or the 9-tails has been still, as in not moving.
Please think this through logically instead of just saying he would get his chakra suppressed.
Shisui Namikaze
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I agree with this.
He is powerful. But he wouldnt have won that fight if he didnt have kurama
Itachi Namikaze
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Is that a serious post?
You have to be joking. The mere presence of mokuton doesn't negate all of the 9-tails powers. I don't know what manga you are reading but it isn't the same one I am reading.
I'm not sure if you can read though, as you clearly don't understand that if he wanted to suppress Naruto's chakra he would have to catch him, or not have his mokuton destroyed.
Base Naruto destroyed Madara's mokuton attack, which was far greater than anything that has been shown to date.
Ifa clone of Naruto can do that with a fraction of the 9-tails power then I'm sure the real Naruto with full chakra can destroy mokuton as well.
Unfortunately as a Hashirama fanboy you clearly can't understand this. You can't counter my points, or you refuse to, and so you have lost this argument.
Must I show manga pages that show Naruto destroying mokuton? And clones of base Naruto being fast enough to counter said mokuton attack? And yet you think that Naruto in any of his modes can be caught and have his chakra suppressed.
Honestly even SM Naruto is enough for this battle, but with BM and KM he takes this easy. EASY
Seriously. People seem to forget that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage, but yet Naruto can beat him but not Hashirama? And Tobirama had S/T and Edo Tensei. Either Naruto can beat all three of them, or none of them.
And Minato, not sure. Possibly Naruto.
AND everyone needs to shut up about Naruto>Hashirama implying Naruto>Madara. Madara has the RINNEGAN and one of the strongest, if not strongest, Motukon. So now Madara>Hashirama.
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Itachi Namikaze
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Thank you!!!
Everyone is comparing Hashirama to the Edo Madara, even though the current Edo Madara is so far out of Hashirama's league it isn't even funny.
Edo Madara = EMS Madara + Hashirama + Nagato
He has the powers of all 3, and has an insane amount of chakra to be pulling off the moves he already has.
Anyway +rep to you sir.