Biggest Weakness

[Big Jutsu]

I was just thinking yesterday,bored as hell in philosphy, that there is no balanced ninja in Akatsuki. If you think about it, each member of akatsuki is so obsessed with one aspect of thier abilities that thier greatest strength becomes thier greatest weakness. examples: Itachi's "preoccupation" with his eyes(yes i know itachi is good but just saying), Sasori and Deidara thier preocupation with thier art killed them, Hidan and kakuzu's obsession with thier own ways to immortality(Hidan his religion and kakuzu his money(even hell runs by money)), etc etc. thier greatest abilities become thier focal point and causes thier own downfall. it bugs me that there is no balanced shinobi in thier midst(ex: kakashi, 3rd hokage, shinobi that fights in all three ninja aspects).

Does this fact bother anyone else? I know it makes akatsuki more interesting but it leaves them to vulnerable. each of the akatsuki beaten so far has been beaten due to thier strength creating a huge weakness. ex: oro and obsession with immortality. hidan's immortality making him overly reckless. Kakuzu's age causing him to underestimate his enemies and i could go on.

So what i am really asking is if you think that the lack of a powerfull rounded shinobi makes akatsuki better or worse as an organization and why

 

[Big Jutsu]

oh and for kisame. kisame was beaten by his reliance on his sword. while he is disgustingly strong in his own right, he reliance and trust in his sword allowed his sword to absorb some of his chakra and give it to killer bee. so his greating strength helped his downfall

 

[Kyo7763]

Ive noticed that as well, however, I think it is put in there on purpose to create a sort of default for how the fights are to go. It makes a base line for what is to be expected.

It does make sense to take someones strength and find a weakness, but I think the whole point of all these fights is to create a body to the 'final' battle. Something that will be very different and as you say - make the organization something that you wouldnt think. The 'final' fight whatever it will end up being will have many twists and turns I believe one thing after another will change unlike these fights that are pretty straight forward to get the same point across.

I think it will help for the better, because it will make the last chapters just that much more epic, all hell will break loose and no defaults will be used

 

[~Hasashi~]

i have to agree 100%

 

[MasqueradeNX]

That is true

 

[GaaratheFifth]

I agree, and I think it is a decent critique of "villains," in general. To be a villain is to be imbalanced or obsessive. Very rarely (I am trying to think of any examples) do we see a villain who has considered all possibilities, allowed for differences in opinions, but still decides to be evil.

 

[Big Jutsu]

I will be honest it kind of bugs me because the first real fight in the series was between two talented well rounded shinobi, kakashi and zabuzza(sp). In my opinion this is one of the better fights because it relied on perception and manipulation of an enemy who did not have any glaring weaknesses unlike alatsuki members. I am not down playing the level of intelligence it took to take down hidan or deidara but hidan was defeated by the first person to realize do not get hit by him and deidara was defeated by someone who happened to have the kg to counter his best weapons and the element to counter his element. While in kakashi bs zabuzza it come down to who was the better shinobi tactics

 

[zumorikato]

Very nice post dude, you deserve reps for this!

I have to agree, I kan see Sasuke failing due to his constant revenge and Madara with his manipulation.

Sasuke was hunted as a missing nin due to revenge from what the Raikage thought that Sasuke killed killer bee, thus revenge.

And Madara is a manipulating con artist, thus I think that Naruto will somehow be able to manipulate/convince him to turn from his evil ways.(Just a though/possibility)

Enjoy

 

[Mino]

yeah it is a good thread +rep

 

[leafeater]

I was just thinking yesterday,bored as hell in philosphy, that there is no balanced ninja in Akatsuki. If you think about it, each member of akatsuki is so obsessed with one aspect of thier abilities that thier greatest strength becomes thier greatest weakness. examples: Itachi's "preoccupation" with his eyes(yes i know itachi is good but just saying), Sasori and Deidara thier preocupation with thier art killed them, Hidan and kakuzu's obsession with thier own ways to immortality(Hidan his religion and kakuzu his money(even hell runs by money)), etc etc. thier greatest abilities become thier focal point and causes thier own downfall. it bugs me that there is no balanced shinobi in thier midst(ex: kakashi, 3rd hokage, shinobi that fights in all three ninja aspects).

Does this fact bother anyone else? I know it makes akatsuki more interesting but it leaves them to vulnerable. each of the akatsuki beaten so far has been beaten due to thier strength creating a huge weakness. ex: oro and obsession with immortality. hidan's immortality making him overly reckless. Kakuzu's age causing him to underestimate his enemies and i could go on.

So what i am really asking is if you think that the lack of a powerfull rounded shinobi makes akatsuki better or worse as an organization and why

Every shinobi has their weakness, and I think that if you examine each shinobi, you'll see that their greatest strength also reflects their weaknesses. The superior shinobi exploits these strengths weaknesses like Sasuke against Deidara. The Akatsuki have to be exotic and cool, like Deidara. They also have to die. Nonetheless, this is a nice post because it is well thought out, makes a point, and provides evidence.

You used Kakashi as a well rounded ninja, but his major weakness is that he has a relatively small chakra reserve than his opponents. Further, Kakashi was having trouble with Kakuzu until Naruto (who destroyed 3 of 5 hearts) and Yamato showed up. Nagato and Madara/Tobi I would say are the two shinobi that don't rely too much on their strengths. Yes Nagato created Pein and relied on the Rinnegan, but this was in part due to him being crippled.

Naruto, who is more powerful in battle than Kakashi, has weaknesses. He can't control the Kyuubi, and he can't use sage mode indefinitely. Sasuke's MS is very powerful, but it's leading him to extinguishing his light (i.e. blindness), and at the moment he is not the cool minded Sasuke we know by letting his emotions get the better of him. :naruto::sasuke:

 

[Blizzard589]

Naruto only destroyed 2 hearts of Kakuzu with his attack btw. Kakashi destroyed 2 (the first one and the last one) and Shikamaru destroyed one (by tricking Hidan).

I agree most ninja in the Narutoverse are lopsided in their abilities and rely on one aspect of fighting or even one technique alone too much. Sandaime in his prime was probably the most well rounded shinobi since S06P and Jiraiya was pretty well off also in sage mode (since he had the elder toads to do genjutsu) even though he may have relied a bit too much on toad techs. Kakashi would be up there also if he had stamina (which has increased over the time-skip).

The nins in clans always use clan techs and never branch out (Nara clan shadow stuff, Aburame clan bugs, Hyuuga clan gentle fist, etc).

 

[Blizzard589]

Oh, and I would expect Kakuzu, who has lived for so long, to have more tricks than weird tenticles and large attacks of each element.

It's like once they find something good they stick with it instead of continuing to learn new techs. Orochimaru maybe went a little overboard on the other end of this spectrum though by trying to learn everything.

 

[Big Jutsu]

if you think about it why is kakashi dangerous at all(dont get me wrong i love him)? its the fact that you have no idea what type of jutsu he is going to pull out. its his flexibility. but with akatsuki, once they have thier main trick out in the open you know whats going on. it just seems like the writers leave thier abilities at such a superficial level that is disappointing considering how much potential there is

 

[ninryu]

i have to say you're right, anyone of the akatsuki fell becouse of their nindou. it looks like the real storng ninjas has more than one fighting way and they can use differents techniques.