Au contraire my dear ignorant
cat-raped-by-elephant member, if that would be the case then everyone who succeeds in making people flame would be considered a troll, so then pretty much the entire staff consists out of trolls as let that be now one of our specialties
There are times when it's best to be silent, as saying something while not even being able to apprehend what you just said isn't going to take people you very seriously.
Everyone who intentionally just comes to the forums to screw it, is in my eyes a troll. Whether that be by acting stupid and irrational, intentionally making threads that are forbidden, intentionally breaking all the rules, acting intentionally like a hardcore fanboy to annoy people or to insult people in every post for no reason at all. That makes them flamers, but also trolls. All of those are here considered trolls, if you have another, subjective definition of what a troll is, that's your business. However if you're going to turn that very subjective vision of yours into some kind universal meaning, then likewise you just utterly raped the hypothetical
lil'-kitten-by-a-humongous-elephant-bull as apparently a troll can't be a flamer, which is just an artificial distinction you just made yourself based on nothing else than your own subjective opinion.
What you describe as 'troll' only applies to an extremely small group of people who actually have a certain amount of intelligence and as a result can by very creative when messing with people so that they don't have to resort to just flaming them like Gamahiro or Flaw. But 95% of the other trolls are just retarded or don't bother being very subtle, still they are trolls. My definition is much more on the mark than yours.