Biggest Asspull Moment in the Manga?

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None of them are "asspull", that's just a fan-made term to describe people who are butthurt, are trying to be edgy or don't have the ability to form a logical explanation.

All of which do have.

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OT: Sasuke vs Deidara is not asspull never will it be, we already knew about reverse summoning, le said to be instant, which is what Sasuke would of used to get out the barrier as well.
 

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except none of what you actually stated is an asspull

None of them are "asspull", that's just a fan-made term to describe people who are butthurt, are trying to be edgy or don't have the ability to form a logical explanation.

All of which do have.
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Well to be fair Izanami was sort of foreshadowed in a way since its counterpart "Izanagi" was introduced way earlier.. Izanagi and Izanami are related I believe just like if there's Light, there will be darkness.

Obito's afterlife Kamui DMS giving feat does seem like the biggest asspull imo..That literally came from no where lol...The only other ones i can remember is that Sasuke vs Deidara one and Naruto suddenly getting Doton and coming right under Neji's chin without being a sensor or having a dojutsu to time his coming out of that hole in part 1.
 

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Why are people saying that Obito's Kamui possession was an ass-pull when, in that literal same arc, we find out Naruto and Sasuke have the souls of people who crossed over from the afterlife possessing them, granting them "special chakra." In that literal, same arc, Hagoromo said he used his chakra to pass from the afterlife and gave Naruto and Sasuke powers through this chakra-soul crossover.

Y'all just stupid as shit
 

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Blaclord and Riker solod the shit out of this thread :coffee:
 

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here Biggest Asspull Moment in the Manga
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Well to be fair Izanami was sort of foreshadowed in a way since its counterpart "Izanagi" was introduced way earlier.. Izanagi and Izanami are related I believe just like if there's Light, there will be darkness.

Why does Izanagi justify the out of nowhere existence of Izanami? Its not like there are any other jutsu that act as direct counters to the multiple OP abilities introduced in the manga.
 

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Why does Izanagi justify the out of nowhere existence of Izanami? Its not like there are any other jutsu that act as direct counters to the multiple OP abilities introduced in the manga.

Dude, EVERY jutsu when they're first introduced are "out of nowhere." Where is the foreshadowing for Sharingan? For Chidori/Raikiri? For Deidara's clay bombs? For Susano'o? For Amaterasu? Come the **** on
 

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Why does Izanagi justify the out of nowhere existence of Izanami? Its not like there are any other jutsu that act as direct counters to the multiple OP abilities introduced in the manga.

Izanagi and Izanami are more or less 2 sides of a coin just like Light and darkness, Life and death.
Iirc, Itachi explains whereas Izanagi alters destiny, Izanami decides it.
That imo more or less implies Kishi had that jutsu in the works. You can't mention Light without mentioning darkness somewhere along the line right?
 

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Izanagi and Izanami are more or less 2 sides of a coin just like Light and darkness, Life and death.
Iirc, Itachi explains whereas Izanagi alters destiny, Izanami decides it.
That imo more or less implies Kishi had that jutsu in the works. You can't mention Light without mentioning darkness somewhere along the line right?

No, but then again I could easily pick out any of a series of jutsu introduced and label it as darkness simply to give it a light. You do see my problem with this argument, don't you?
 

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Dude, EVERY jutsu when they're first introduced are "out of nowhere." Where is the foreshadowing for Sharingan? For Chidori/Raikiri? For Deidara's clay bombs? For Susano'o? For Amaterasu? Come the **** on

And I am absolutely fine with that. Except Izanami was invented for the sole purpose of having Itachi beat Kabuto. Not even to redeem him, since as Naruto has shown again and again, you can easily redeem someone with simple words. Izanami's one singular purpose within the plot is to have Itachi win a battle that he otherwise would have badly lost, the fact that it was never mentioned before is just evidence of that.
 

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No, but then again I could easily pick out any of a series of jutsu introduced and label it as darkness simply to give it a light. You do see my problem with this argument, don't you?

Not really..If you should have a problem then it should be with Izanagi imo.
Izanagi had already been set by Kishi as the light/darkness. Izanagi has the power to alter destiny...then without a doubt he needs to introduce something into the series related to the dojutsu stuff to make a fixed destiny which should oppose Izanagi. Just like yin-yang and many opposite related concepts.
And imo if you have no issue with Izanagi, then you shouldn't have one with Izanami.
 

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Nothing touches Obito's ghost giving Kakashi DMS.

Dumbest moment in the entire manga.
 

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Not really..If you should have a problem then it should be with Izanagi imo.
Izanagi had already been set by Kishi as the light/darkness. Izanagi has the power to alter destiny...then without a doubt he needs to introduce something into the series related to the dojutsu stuff to make a fixed destiny which should oppose Izanagi. Just like yin-yang and many opposite related concepts.
And imo if you have no issue with Izanagi, then you shouldn't have one with Izanami.

When did he ever set up Izanagi as a yin to something else's yang? If so, yeah, Izanami's sudden appearance is a bit more justifiable, but I can't remember when that ever happened before its introduction.
 

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When did he ever set up Izanagi as a yin to something else's yang? If so, yeah, Izanami's sudden appearance is a bit more justifiable, but I can't remember when that ever happened before its introduction.

What they do already shows they are opposites of each other do they not? Izanagi came out of nowhere but Izanami's intro is a bit more justifiable because Izanagi had already been established. And they oppose each other...Actually iirc, in his explanation he states Izanami was created to counter Izanagi.
 

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And I am absolutely fine with that. Except Izanami was invented for the sole purpose of having Itachi beat Kabuto. Not even to redeem him, since as Naruto has shown again and again, you can easily redeem someone with simple words. Izanami's one singular purpose within the plot is to have Itachi win a battle that he otherwise would have badly lost, the fact that it was never mentioned before is just evidence of that.

Then your problem is that Izanami exists as a plot device and deus ex machina, not that it's an ass-pull.
 

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What they do already shows they are opposites of each other do they not? Izanagi came out of nowhere but Izanami's intro is a bit more justifiable because Izanagi had already been established. And they oppose each other...Actually iirc, in his explanation he states Izanami was created to counter Izanagi.

Izanagi doesn't come out of nowhere. Hell, if there is anything that had been coming a long way, its Izanagi Danzo's arm was there since the beginning after all, and unless I'm mistaken we were shown his golden braces long before we were shown the eyes. Danzo's ability was a long way coming, so when it was introduced, it was shocking, but didn't seem contrived or forced, just OP.

On the other hand, Izanami, unless I'm wrong, was never mentioned before and had no true foreshadowing, but was introduced into one of the few situations in the series where it could even actually be used. Because of that, it came out as an excuse to have Itachi beat Kabuto more than anything else.
 
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