[VS] Big mom vs akainu

[arv993]

No shit Sherlock, that's BB's personality, some fodders wouldn't even run, doesn't change a thing however when it pertains to Oda hyping Akainu.

Teach had no issues challenging Garp and Sengoku together. Red Hair pirates got him to run, and Akainu singlehandedly got him and his crew to run, that's hype for the latter two.

Keep making shitty excuses though, you don't seem to understand how hype works.

Shitty excuses? I provided u situations where even when he's stronger he runs like when he's a yonko running from cp0. Why Tf would He take on akainu for a ship when he's a new yonko. When he challenged Garp and sengoku because he underestimated them cuz they are old and he was testing out his new powers. This is his personality he waited for his chance against Wb also. I'm not getting supremely hyped by a coward retreating. BM and Kaido got better hype, they were described damn near indestructible and otherworldly over and over, akainu hype is good but compared to the best yonkos he is marginally worse. and shanks best hype is not making Bb run away if that's what you're insinuating.

 

[Sakazuki]

Shitty excuses? I provided u situations where even when he's stronger he runs like when he's a yonko running from cp0. Why Tf would He take on akainu for a ship when he's a new yonko. When he challenged Garp and sengoku because he underestimated them cuz they are old and he was testing out his new powers. This is his personality he waited for his chance against Wb also. I'm not getting supremely hyped by a coward retreating. BM and Kaido got better hype, they were described damn near indestructible and otherworldly over and over, akainu hype is good but compared to the best yonkos he is marginally worse. and shanks best hype is not making Bb run away if that's what you're insinuating.

Akainu has the best hype tbh. Akainu is one of odas absolute favorite characters.

For 1: he does have the best feats so far besides maybe kid big mom. But killing Rogers son, being the most reason for whitebeards death, going 10 straight days and nights, turning half an island into a volcanic field, withstood two direct Haki gura punches from the wsm. The only person to completely destroy luffy will 100% and genuinely scared him. Punched holes through too many people. Etc.

For 2: if luffy had akainus strength at the beginning he would be found one piece in a year. This is a statement to akainus power. Basically if akainu tried to find one piece he could, In a year, look how long everyone else has been trying.I don't see how any hype could ever overcome this.

Oda loves akainu

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Akainu has the best hype tbh. Akainu is one of odas absolute favorite characters.

For 1: he does have the best feats so far besides maybe kid big mom. But killing Rogers son, being the most reason for whitebeards death, going 10 straight days and nights, turning half an island into a volcanic field, withstood two direct Haki gura punches from the wsm. The only person to completely destroy luffy will 100% and genuinely scared him. Punched holes through too many people. Etc.

For 2: if luffy had akainus strength at the beginning he would be found one piece in a year. This is a statement to akainus power. Basically if akainu tried to find one piece he could, In a year, look how long everyone else has been trying.I don't see how any hype could ever overcome this.

Oda loves akainu

Shanks and Aokiji has better hype lmao

 

[Passerby]

Akainu has the best hype tbh. Akainu is one of odas absolute favorite characters.

For 1: he does have the best feats so far besides maybe kid big mom. But killing Rogers son, being the most reason for whitebeards death, going 10 straight days and nights, turning half an island into a volcanic field, withstood two direct Haki gura punches from the wsm. The only person to completely destroy luffy will 100% and genuinely scared him. Punched holes through too many people. Etc.

For 2: if luffy had akainus strength at the beginning he would be found one piece in a year. This is a statement to akainus power. Basically if akainu tried to find one piece he could, In a year, look how long everyone else has been trying.I don't see how any hype could ever overcome this.

Oda loves akainu

Best hype? Where? Is it hiding behind Kaido?

 

[arv993]

Akainu has the best hype tbh. Akainu is one of odas absolute favorite characters.

For 1: he does have the best feats so far besides maybe kid big mom. But killing Rogers son, being the most reason for whitebeards death, going 10 straight days and nights, turning half an island into a volcanic field, withstood two direct Haki gura punches from the wsm. The only person to completely destroy luffy will 100% and genuinely scared him. Punched holes through too many people. Etc.

For 2: if luffy had akainus strength at the beginning he would be found one piece in a year. This is a statement to akainus power. Basically if akainu tried to find one piece he could, In a year, look how long everyone else has been trying.I don't see how any hype could ever overcome this.

Oda loves akainu

Yea that's great hype but it's top 5 in the OP. Not number 1, like you said kid BM was a monster and Oda keeps saying how invincible she is. So she can withstand more than Wb could against akainu. Ppl like BM, Kaido and even shanks have slightly better hype. And historically speaking ppl like prime Wb, Garp and roger are also more hyped than him. But without a doubt akainu is a top dog currently just marginally below in hype compared to some yonko.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yea that's great hype but it's top 5 in the OP. Not number 1, like you said kid BM was a monster and Oda keeps saying how invincible she is. So she can withstand more than Wb could against akainu. Ppl like BM, Kaido and even shanks have slightly better hype. And historically speaking ppl like prime Wb, Garp and roger are also more hyped than him. But without a doubt akainu is a top dog currently just marginally below in hype compared to some yonko.

Shanks does not have better hype than Akainu.

WB's, Roger's, and Garp's best hype is that they were unparalleled in their time, but their time was their time. The other Emperors, Mihawk, Dragon, the Admirals, none of them were active at the time, so the hype means nothing in relation to the new generation.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Shanks does not have better hype than Akainu.

WB's, Roger's, and Garp's best hype is that they were unparalleled in their time, but their time was their time. The other Emperors, Mihawk, Dragon, the Admirals, none of them were active at the time, so the hype means nothing in relation to the new generation.

Shanks was shown to have better hype from the fact the marineford stopped the war at his demand , blocked akainu's punch with a small sword , recieving the strawhat from roger , staying yonko with one arm , equalled roger in weaponry , kaido retreating in thier fight against shank's crew .... indirect hype most of it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Shanks was shown to have better hype from the fact the marineford stopped the war at his demand , blocked akainu's punch with a small sword , recieving the strawhat from roger , staying yonko with one arm , equalled roger in weaponry , kaido retreating in thier fight against shank's crew .... indirect hype most of it.

The war stopped because Shanks knew the Marines wouldn't call his bluff due to politics.

"A small sword," that sword isn't anything to sneeze it. The fact that it's a named blade alone shows that it's not just some hunk of steel Shanks lugs around.

Shanks receiving the SH from Roger is hype? Not only was Shanks a rookie when he got it, but he gave it to a seven year old Luffy who couldn't even punch straight.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Shanks does not have better hype than Akainu.

WB's, Roger's, and Garp's best hype is that they were unparalleled in their time, but their time was their time. The other Emperors, Mihawk, Dragon, the Admirals, none of them were active at the time, so the hype means nothing in relation to the new generation.

It's pretty obvious that Oda intends for Roger and Prime WB to be a cut above the rest.

 

[Sakazuki]

It's pretty obvious that Oda intends for Roger and Prime WB to be a cut above the rest.

Not really when this new Era is already stated by oda to surpass the previous.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

The war stopped because Shanks knew the Marines wouldn't call his bluff due to politics.

"A small sword," that sword isn't anything to sneeze it. The fact that it's a named blade alone shows that it's not just some hunk of steel Shanks lugs around.

Shanks receiving the SH from Roger is hype? Not only was Shanks a rookie when he got it, but he gave it to a seven year old Luffy who couldn't even punch straight.

I can see you have a point , but doesnt inheriting the hat mean the inheritor has huge PK level potential before him? Many people know Roger wore that hat so it could translate to potential hype ...

 

[MickNerks]

To be completely honest, Shanks doesn't need hype at the point in the manga. The other Yonko have solidified his strength for him. After watching Whiteberd and Big Mom it should be a fact-o-manga that Yonko are stronger than admirals. This has been shown and concluded by every yonko that we have seen in battle so far.

The fact that shanks is the last yonko to be explored (if you follow the pattern of the manga) shows that he will be either the strongest or second strongest yonko. Big Mom and Kaido being the weakest of the current four, and whitebeard being the weakest of the previous four (at time of his death). Oda doesnt have stronger opponents deafeated before weaker ones, which we have seen in the manga over and over, so the fact that Kaido (and potentially BM) will be defeated before Shanks is enough to deduce that he is the strongest of the three.

 

[Sakazuki]

To be completely honest, Shanks doesn't need hype at the point in the manga. The other Yonko have solidified his strength for him. After watching Whiteberd and Big Mom it should be a fact-o-manga that Yonko are stronger than admirals. This has been shown and concluded by every yonko that we have seen in battle so far.

The fact that shanks is the last yonko to be explored (if you follow the pattern of the manga) shows that he will be either the strongest or second strongest yonko. Big Mom and Kaido being the weakest of the current four, and whitebeard being the weakest of the previous four (at time of his death). Oda doesnt have stronger opponents deafeated before weaker ones, which we have seen in the manga over and over, so the fact that Kaido (and potentially BM) will be defeated before Shanks is enough to deduce that he is the strongest of the three.

All I read were assumptions and only assumptions, I agree with oda waiting to take out the strongest characters last, but still, just assumptions

 

[MickNerks]

All I read were assumptions and only assumptions, I agree with oda waiting to take out the strongest characters last, but still, just assumptions

Where are the assumptions?

Can you name an admiral that has been shown to be more powerful than a Yonko?
Do you agree that the feats of Kaido and BM place them above Marineford WB?


IMO these questions have already been addressed in the manga

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Where are the assumptions?

Can you name an admiral that has been shown to be more powerful than a Yonko?
Do you agree that the feats of Kaido and BM place them above Marineford WB?


IMO these questions have already been addressed in the manga

Kizaru could beat big mom . His speed is too much for her .

 

[Sakazuki]

Where are the assumptions?

Can you name an admiral that has been shown to be more powerful than a Yonko?
Do you agree that the feats of Kaido and BM place them above Marineford WB?


IMO these questions have already been addressed in the manga

Aside from heart attacks(leaving himself open to injury), all that was diminished from whitebeard was his armament haki and too be fair that part of haki hadn't really been emphasized on of till after the time skip, his attack power was still full force and he has still shown the strongest attacks in all of one piece. No matter what big mom or anyone so far has done is any feat belonging to defense, there offense is still lower than whitebeard, and Akainu tanked two haki enhanced (haki powerful enough to match shanks and split the skies) and two of the most powerful punches in all of one piece. That being said, no matter what yonko it is, the result at mf would always be the same.

Don't see anyway possible big mom can hurt Akainu enough to ko him. And I doubt she's out lasting him with his onslaught. Even if she can tank a lot of it, she's not standing on a volcanic island for 11 days

Edit: but yes, whitebeard matched Roger but we haven't seen it so yes all together their feats out way whitebeards. But to be fair, if even old sick wb didn't have a heart attack he'd steam roll big mom and kaido and akainu

 

[Lord Tywin]

Where are the assumptions?

Can you name an admiral that has been shown to be more powerful than a Yonko?
Do you agree that the feats of Kaido and BM place them above Marineford WB?


IMO these questions have already been addressed in the manga

WB has the best destructive feat in the manga. And Akainu was stronger than him.

 

[Love Cook]

WB has the best destructive feat in the manga. And Akainu was stronger than him.

That doesn't make any sense. You can't measure destruction vs strength.

 

[Lord Tywin]

That doesn't make any sense. You can't measure destruction vs strength.

They’re interchangeable.

 

[Love Cook]

They’re interchangeable.

No they're not. In a world of Devil Fruits and magical abilities ?

He had one of the most destructive powers and a weak heart.

Just imagine if Whitebeard was younger and in better shape. His devil fruit abilities wouldn't be that much different. However he would be able to give Akainu a much better fight. That would make him stronger, not more destructive.