Beyond S class.

[Senju Bean]

If I was a general I'd want an army of mid-level fighters, rather than just one super strong fighter. If that one person gets taken out than you are done.

I get your point, but keep in mind, a bunch of mid-level fighters is going to have a hard time making a dent in that super strong fighter even if their combined charkra exceeds the super strong fighter.

Remember DBZ? Even though the collective power level of the humans were greater than Majin Buu, they still got destroyed by him. It wasn't until they could harness that power into a spirit bomb that they were finally able to defeat him. Moral of the story? A bunch of power is less useful spread out into a thin wide blanket than it is focused into a sharp spear.

A prime situation of this? Nagato. Even though there were thousands of mid level shinobi in the leaf, Deva Path defeated them all. If it weren't for Naruto, Nagato may indeed have finished them off.

 

[Senju Bean]

Then this whole thread is deturmined by pure power. I don't think pure power is what makes strength. Look at Minato he can redirect any large scal attack out the way easily or back at yourself with the space-time barrier. Any normal person wouldn't be able to even lay a hand on Minato his reflexes are so fast and his thinking is so fast.

Itachi can't be hit by the most devastating attacks his Susanoo is so hax and he can seal anyone if his sword cuts you. With he can use his sharingan to probably what Madara could. We have never once saw Itachi go out 100% yet he was so powerful.

Sasuke doesn't have village leveling attacks but his Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan is haxed. He can use Amaterasu like Gaara uses his sand it has no limit and this is just the start of his Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. As we saw from Madara Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan has devastating capabilities.

There are people that are like them but they can't destroy villages but can defeat the people you mentioned because of their natural abilities.

Well, upon further thinking about it, I'm adding Minato to my list solely due to the fact that he could defend against/redirect village destroying attacks.

Itachi and Sasuke still didn't make it. Sure, their hax one-shot abilities make them the best snipers.
But what wins wars? Snipers or Nukes?

If Sasuke gets PS, I'll admit he is beyond S class. For now, he is Upper S.

 

[Regulus]

I get your point, but keep in mind, a bunch of mid-level fighters is going to have a hard time making a dent in that super strong fighter even if their combined charkra exceeds the super strong fighter.

Remember DBZ? Even though the collective power level of the humans were greater than Majin Buu, they still got destroyed by him. It wasn't until they could harness that power into a spirit bomb that they were finally able to defeat him. Moral of the story? A bunch of power is less useful spread out into a thin wide blanket than it is focused into a sharp spear.

A prime situation of this? Nagato. Even though there were thousands of mid level shinobi in the leaf, Deva Path defeated them all. If it weren't for Naruto, Nagato may indeed have finished them off.

Idealistically i'd want both a large army of mid-tier fighters and super soldiers. Or even better a large army of super soldiers. Honestly though there are pros and cons to both. The ideal would be someone above S Class supported by mid-tier fighters. A prime example would be Star Wars. Sure the jedi are awesome and they have a deadly amount of ability, but they are still backed up by the clones because even a jedi can't take out an entire army alone.

 

[Senju Bean]

Idealistically i'd want both a large army of mid-tier fighters and super soldiers. Or even better a large army of super soldiers. Honestly though there are pros and cons to both. The ideal would be someone above S Class supported by mid-tier fighters. A prime example would be Star Wars. Sure the jedi are awesome and they have a deadly amount of ability, but they are still backed up by the clones because even a jedi can't take out an entire army alone.

For some cases, I agree. Mid level ninja can be very useful. They can gather intel, provide support when the powerful is exhusted, act as an eye for the blind spot, lower the enemy's endurance etc.

But imo, it really does depend on the case. If it were Hashi, then sure, since Hashi's 1000 hand wooden statue can support the mid tier ninja it's head and is high enough in the sky to avoid damage. For Madara, same thing, he can protect them by covering them inside his PS.

Now, if it were Nagato, the mid tiers would get in the way for sure since CT and ST both have a huge amount of collateral damage.

 

[Regulus]

For some cases, I agree. Mid level ninja can be very useful. They can gather intel, provide support when the powerful is exhusted, act as an eye for the blind spot, lower the enemy's endurance etc.

But imo, it really does depend on the case. If it were Hashi, then sure, since Hashi's 1000 hand wooden statue can support the mid tier ninja it's head and is high enough in the sky to avoid damage. For Madara, same thing, he can protect them by covering them inside his PS.

Now, if it were Nagato, the mid tiers would get in the way for sure since CT and ST both have a huge amount of collateral damage.

But they also cost a huge amount of chakra. If he uses one of them he is going to deplete his chakra reserves. If that happens then you have a gun without ammo. It'd best to at least have a small batallion behind to attack after Cbikau Tensei is used if they are any remaining enemy forces.

 

[Senju Bean]

But they also cost a huge amount of chakra. If he uses one of them he is going to deplete his chakra reserves. If that happens then you have a gun without ammo. It'd best to at least have a small batallion behind to attack after Cbikau Tensei is used if they are any remaining enemy forces.

It takes careful planning. Just the fact that there are allies around makes CT difficult to use on the spur of the moment since they could get caught in it if they are in front of Nagato.

But I agree. There should be a battalion behind Nagato should they plan an attack. As long as Nagato is the one that goes in first and does the CT. The most important thing that the battalion should have are sensors, medical ninjas, defensive ninja, and finally, long range attackers. The last group is for, just in case, if something crawls to out to the CT sphere's surface, the long range ninja could launch projectiles at it and have CT's gravity accelerate it to it's target.

 

[Regulus]

It takes careful planning. Just the fact that there are allies around makes CT difficult to use on the spur of the moment since they could get caught in it if they are in front of Nagato.

But I agree. There should be a battalion behind Nagato should they plan an attack. As long as Nagato is the one that goes in first and does the CT. The most important thing that the battalion should have are sensors, medical ninjas, defensive ninja, and finally, long range attackers. The last group is for, just in case, if something crawls to out to the CT sphere's surface, the long range ninja could launch projectiles at it and have CT's gravity accelerate it to it's target.

I agree. Chibaku Tensei is like a nuke it takes a lot of planning to use to its fullest extent and minimize friendly fire.