Best puppet master

[Aya San]

Didn't Sasori admitted Kankuro surpassed him?

 

[Edo Odin]

ok got me on that. But sir, where did you counter the point of having only been able to control so many vs choosing only to control so many. Also, if you read clearly it is again the "They say".. who is they??

I mean since you take Sasori's word.. Might as well take Kankuro's words.. that Sasori never countered or the manga never countered after that either..

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In the end its all about the techniques... Red vs Black.. Black is apparently the superior one here.

Primarily, I go by feats when it comes to determining ones power, and when it comes to feats, Sasori is clearly the superior one, whether you choose to go by versatility, or by the amount of puppets one can control at a time, like the Databook/Manga suggests is the correct way to view things. In any case, in no way do I feel that self given hype can suffice as a testament of someones power when that person managed to defeat nothing more than a dead body with no other weapons but Chakra strings. No poison, no puppets, no Katon.

I just don't see how the two can be considered equal, sorry.​

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[KingHashirama]

I should probably tell you that KingHashirama is biased and that he thinks anyone can beat Sasori because Sakura and Chiyo defeated him [Which is actually surprising seeing as how he likes to ridiculously wank Sakura]. He firmly believes that Sasori would lose to Hidan.

It's pointless to try and lecture him.

Why bother talking crap about others, when your whole argument is countered by 1 manga scan?

And you believe Sasori is one of the strongest Akatsuki members.. so do you want me to say you are biased?

Sasori has nothing on Hidan.. its not my fault..

Primarily, I go by feats when it comes to determining ones power, and when it comes to feats, Sasori is clearly the superior one, whether you choose to go by versatility, or by the amount of puppets one can control at a time, like the Databook/Manga suggests is the correct way to view things. In any case, in no way do I feel that self given hype can suffice as a testament of someones power when that person managed to defeat nothing more than a dead body with no other weapons but Chakra strings. No poison, no puppets, no Katon.

I just don't see how the two can be considered equal, sorry.​

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Going with an outdated databook, that simply went with what Sasori stated.. You do know thats how a databook works right?

I don't think you understand what hype is..Kankuro literally made the great puppet master Sasori useless.. Not only that but even Sasori was surprised that he couldn't use his chakra threads..

But sure believe what you shall.

"Poison".. funny that you mention this.. considering how you guys take it out of the arsenal of people who are superior to Sasori in poison. Not only that, it has nothing to do with the puppet Mastery.

The Black > Red.. simple manga fact.. and that is all I'm going with also.

 

[Shura]

Didn't Sasori admitted Kankuro surpassed him?

That was basically plot bullshit. Unless Sasori admitted that Kankuro surpassed a version of himself that doesn't carry any Puppets.

Why bother talking crap about others, when your whole argument is countered by 1 manga scan?

And you believe Sasori is one of the strongest Akatsuki members.. so do you want me to say you are biased?

Sasori has nothing on Hidan.. its not my fault..

It's funny how Sasori is usually ranked as the fourth or fifth strongest Akatsuki. Hell, some even rank him as the third strongest. And you claim that I am biased for saying 'Sasori is one of the strongest Akatsuki'? No.

Yes, you said the same exact words to ~Puppet Master~ before he handed your ass back to you on a silver plate.

 

[KingHashirama]

That was basically plot bullshit. Unless Sasori admitted that Kankuro surpassed a version of himself that doesn't carry any Puppets.



It's funny how Sasori is usually ranked as the fourth or fifth strongest Akatsuki. Hell, some even rank him as the third strongest. And you claim that I am biased for saying 'Sasori is one of the strongest Akatsuki'? No.

Yes, you said the same exact words to ~Puppet Master~ before he handed your ass back to you on a silver plate.

Wasn't it plot that even enabled Sasori to control 100 puppets? or was Sasori out of the plot??

Yea it is funny.. cause the only excuse is "poison"... Now can you go to the post where he handed my ass and link it to me? I mean hell if someone disagreed with your opinion and they started talking to me.. you're bound to go with them. So you aren't biased but i am? sounds pretty retarded. I mean i'm not the one here bringing in "plot" into something that is derived for the plot..

Funny your excuse is that you aren't biased because others also claim sasori is one of the strongest.. so i guess that doesn't make them biased either?

 

[-Punk-]

Sasori can kind of control one hundred puppets at once.. These kind of threads are pointless, Sasori will always be superior.

^ Took a nation & the 3 Kazekage , controls 100 puppets while laughing , this is not debatable , Sasori is the best puppet master ever.

What Kishi did with Kankuro was forced & it's clear , he is obviously not superior than Sasori , he still behind Chiyo .

 

[KingHashirama]

^ Took a nation & the 3 Kazekage , controls 100 puppets while laughing , this is not debatable , Sasori is the best puppet master ever.

Yea well you will find out that 99% of naruto-verse isn't immune to poison.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Kankuro isn't in his prime.. hes only a kid..



How big was the nation?.. cause apparently it wasn't any of the big elite ones..

"3rd Kazekage alone is enough to easily beat Kankuro".. so again what is stopping Kankuro from taking contorl of the 3rd Kazekage?

Kankuro has the advantage of knowledge here.

kankuro can have all the intel he wants and still will lose low diff, and as of now kankuro is in his prime since this is the best kankuro has been, we dnt knw if he will improve or if he's reached his peak...and kankuro hasnt shown the ability to control the dead nor has chiyo and if chiyo can then kankuro cant either since chiyo was far more skilled than him and since they havent they cant until proven they can which again sets sasori on a different level chiyo has that tech with those ten puppets that can beat kankuro with or without his sasori puppet....lol dnt u get it, the fact that he went and got the sasori puppet, the fact that he went into the akatsuki hideout and dug and searched for sasori puppet should tell u whose better...the only difference from kankuro war arc and sasuke retrieval arc is the sasori puppet

the fact that u believe kankuro studied and can beat sasori because of that is mind boggling and i dnt understand u, sasori has been in wars has assassinated shinobi, fuedel lords and people, had destroyed a small nation, has fought people on a whole different level than kankuro has...that black secret tech kankuro created that because he cant use that tech chiyo has nor any of the things sasori has so he made a tech that he can use efficiently and that works fro him...do u think kankuro has enough power or skill to make it into the akatsuki if they just accepted shinobi on skill alone??? kankuro would never make it, do u think kankuro can destroy a nation with secret black tech???hell no, ima answer it for u

i dnt underestimate kankuro he is who he is and as far as puppeteer's go the standard that all and future puppeteers are measured by is sasori, until kankuro is able to kill the sands kazekage which sasori did and kill the strongest kazekage in history, until kankuro can beat gaara i will believe he is stronger than sasori

 

[Shura]

Wasn't it plot that even enabled Sasori to control 100 puppets? or was Sasori out of the plot??

Yea it is funny.. cause the only excuse is "poison"... Now can you go to the post where he handed my ass and link it to me? I mean hell if someone disagreed with your opinion and they started talking to me.. you're bound to go with them. So you aren't biased but i am? sounds pretty retarded. I mean i'm not the one here bringing in "plot" into something that is derived for the plot..

Funny your excuse is that you aren't biased because others also claim sasori is one of the strongest.. so i guess that doesn't make them biased either?

Out of all the members on NarutoBase, you seem to be the only one who is claiming that Hidan is capable of defeating Sasori so are you biased? Yes. It's no wonder that you are the clown of this forum.

@Underlined. Nice try, however, trying to be a smart ass doesn't help you.


@Bold. Yes, I agree. -6 Paths-, Shelke, ~Puppet Master~, etc. and I are all biased while you are not. Good job pointing that out. You opened my eyes.

































In case you haven't noticed, that is called 'sarcasm'.

 

[KingHashirama]

kankuro can have all the intel he wants and still will lose low diff, and as of now kankuro is in his prime since this is the best kankuro has been, we dnt knw if he will improve or if he's reached his peak...and kankuro hasnt shown the ability to control the dead nor has chiyo and if chiyo can then kankuro cant either since chiyo was far more skilled than him and since they havent they cant until proven they can which again sets sasori on a different level chiyo has that tech with those ten puppets that can beat kankuro with or without his sasori puppet....lol dnt u get it, the fact that he went and got the sasori puppet, the fact that he went into the akatsuki hideout and dug and searched for sasori puppet should tell u whose better...the only difference from kankuro war arc and sasuke retrieval arc is the sasori puppet

the fact that u believe kankuro studied and can beat sasori because of that is mind boggling and i dnt understand u, sasori has been in wars has assassinated shinobi, fuedel lords and people, had destroyed a small nation, has fought people on a whole different level than kankuro has...that black secret tech kankuro created that because he cant use that tech chiyo has nor any of the things sasori has so he made a tech that he can use efficiently and that works fro him...do u think kankuro has enough power or skill to make it into the akatsuki if they just accepted shinobi on skill alone??? kankuro would never make it, do u think kankuro can destroy a nation with secret black tech???hell no, ima answer it for u

i dnt underestimate kankuro he is who he is and as far as puppeteer's go the standard that all and future puppeteers are measured by is sasori, until kankuro is able to kill the sands kazekage which sasori did and kill the strongest kazekage in history, until kankuro can beat gaara i will believe he is stronger than sasori

No, he is not in his prime.. Thats like saying I am in my prime.. when I'm not even in my mid 20s.. thats dumb.. Prime of a human being is when they are adults. Kankuro is a kid.. he has much to improve.

The fact that Sasori can be captured in 1 puppet and be made useless , should be mind boggling to you.

Out of all the members on NarutoBase, you seem to be the only one who is claiming that Hidan is capable of defeating Sasori so are you biased? Yes. It's no wonder that you are the clown of this forum.

@Underlined. Nice try, however, trying to be a smart ass doesn't help you.


@Bold. Yes, I agree. -6 Paths-, Shelke, ~Puppet Master~, etc. and I are all biased while you are not. Good job pointing that out. You opened my eyes.

































In case you haven't noticed, that is called 'sarcasm'.

Making pathetic excuses doesn't help you either, and bringing in things like "biased" and etc doesn't help you either. You should be mature enough to know that every single person is biased, so it is pointless to even mention it.

Notice how you believe i didn't understand the sarcasm.. because I wasn't being sarcastic back

Do you have an argument anymore or you simply countering for no reason?

A clown that just shat on your argument? A clown that goes by the manga? I guess Kishimoto must be the biggest clown for having characters make statements right?

 

[Rikudo Ero Sennin]

1. Kankuro

2. Chiyo

3. Sasori.

Simply talking about their skills. Not the puppets themselves, since Kankuro has Sasori's main ones.

you forgot monzaemon the first puppeteer

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[KingHashirama]

you forgot monzaemon the first puppeteer

The greatness of Monzaemon cannot be compared to these folks. He is a legend in his own rankings. (lmao almost had him confused with the digimon Monzaemon).

 

[Sasukenumberonelover]

They all suck.

 

[Shura]

I don't see what's the point of trying to lecture someone like you. It would be an easier task to convince Macho that Sasuke isn't the strongest. Reply to this if you wish. Don't reply if you don't wish. I do not care.

At the end of the day, trying to lecture you will only result in me wasting time, therefore I shall be leaving this topic now and you can feel free to keep on bathing in your own blind stupidity.

 

[Da Best Ever]

No, he is not in his prime.. Thats like saying I am in my prime.. when I'm not even in my mid 20s.. thats dumb.. Prime of a human being is when they are adults. Kankuro is a kid.. he has much to improve.

The fact that Sasori can be captured in 1 puppet and be made useless , should be mind boggling to you.

prime isnt defined by age, its when u reach your peak physically, in the case of naruto it is when u reached your peak in skill, and u nor i knw if kankuro will get any stronger or worse so i cant argue he is going to get better or he isnt, thats thats...and first off sasori was summoned without any of his scrolls, scroll which hold puppets, thats limited him while kankuro had all of his puppets, that was an unfair fight and automatically gave kankuro the advantage, and if kankuro went and found the sasori puppet then he clearly got those scrolls but he just doesnt have the skill to use those techs which is what the debate is about right, skill


and i knw u have no argument because i listed a bunch of things yet u picked the prime thing out of it all...lol


and i should have made this easier for u to cooperate by saying a fight while both have their whole arsenal...which kankuro would lose neg diff, he can take over a nation with that black tech, he cant kill the most powerful kazekage, he can only control 3 puppets at once, he has no other skills other than puppets, he isnt smarter than sasori nor does he have more battle experience


i remember when i first joined nb, and i was debating and i came across u, we where arguing over something about madara's perfect susano, and u mae good points, showed evidence, and manga facts, and was solid overall but recently on the threads we both have participated in u are lacking, when i first debated u i thought from then on u would be a challenging adversary but idk what it is with u right now but get u head in the game ...i didnt say that to make u feel like i was talking shit because im not im just saying u are now thinking like how i was thinking then

 

[Zexion~]

What is this shit?

Sasori shocked chiyo with his control over puppets so that right there proves him>Chiyo,

Kankuro has shown nothing...nothing that proves he's better, except his own words...Which are empty

 

[KingHashirama]

I don't see what's the point of trying to lecture someone like you. It would be an easier task to convince Macho that Sasuke isn't the strongest. Reply to this if you wish. Don't reply if you don't wish. I do not care.

At the end of the day, trying to lecture you will only result in me wasting time, therefore I shall be leaving this topic now and you can feel free to keep on bathing in your own blind stupidity.

Well go argue with Kishimoto I guess. Since my blind stupidity is derived from the scan he made..

What is this shit?

Sasori shocked chiyo with his control over puppets so that right there proves him>Chiyo,

Kankuro has shown nothing...nothing that proves he's better, except his own words...Which are empty

Empty words hmm.. So Sasori passed his will down to a guy with empty words?

So its about shock now? Sasori sure felt shocked...

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prime isnt defined by age, its when u reach your peak physically, in the case of naruto it is when u reached your peak in skill, and u nor i knw if kankuro will get any stronger or worse so i cant argue he is going to get better or he isnt, thats thats...and first off sasori was summoned without any of his scrolls, scroll which hold puppets, thats limited him while kankuro had all of his puppets, that was an unfair fight and automatically gave kankuro the advantage, and if kankuro went and found the sasori puppet then he clearly got those scrolls but he just doesnt have the skill to use those techs which is what the debate is about right, skill


and i knw u have no argument because i listed a bunch of things yet u picked the prime thing out of it all...lol


and i should have made this easier for u to cooperate by saying a fight while both have their whole arsenal...which kankuro would lose neg diff, he can take over a nation with that black tech, he cant kill the most powerful kazekage, he can only control 3 puppets at once, he has no other skills other than puppets, he isnt smarter than sasori nor does he have more battle experience


i remember when i first joined nb, and i was debating and i came across u, we where arguing over something about madara's perfect susano, and u mae good points, showed evidence, and manga facts, and was solid overall but recently on the threads we both have participated in u are lacking, when i first debated u i thought from then on u would be a challenging adversary but idk what it is with u right now but get u head in the game ...i didnt say that to make u feel like i was talking shit because im not im just saying u are now thinking like how i was thinking then

Well I didn't see the point in making a long paragraph when all i needed to counter your post was 1 statement, that you haven't countered..

"The fact that Sasori can be captured in 1 puppet and be made useless , should be mind boggling to you."

 

[Bogard]

1- Kankuro(he surpassed Sasori in this war)
2- Chiyo(she bested Sasori in dual exchanges. Sasori may have more puppets but Chiyo has shown to control them better)
3- Sasori

Hell even Kisame is a better puppeter than Sasori U_U

 

[Europa]

1- Kankuro(he surpassed Sasori in this war)
2- Chiyo(she bested Sasori in dual exchanges. Sasori may have more puppets but Chiyo has shown to control them better)
3- Sasori

Hell even Kisame is a better puppeter than Sasori U_U

Kisame pulls all the strings u_U

 

[Zexion~]

Well go argue with Kishimoto I guess. Since my blind stupidity is derived from the scan he made..


Empty words hmm.. So Sasori passed his will down to a guy with empty words?

So its about shock now? Sasori sure felt shocked...

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What puppets did Sasori even have ... >.>

Nothing surpasing his own body Moot point