[Discussion] Best Haki Users

[loj]

Luffy's armament isn't even that great.

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Vergo's armament > Luffy's from what I've seen.

That was "ages" ago XD last time I've seen Luffy's haki was stronger than Doflamingo's...

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

CoC :
- Shanks
- Rayleigh
- Luffy

CoA
- Garp
- Mihawk
- Shanks

CoO
- Fujitora
- Rayleigh
- Enel

 

[cajin]

No Sabo on the list? Lol.

 

[nanadaime]

Van Augur is good but I still think Mihawk is No.1
He tracked Luffy at Marineford.

If that's the case its fujitora the guys blind and can identify anyone with his CoO

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

Based off feats, Coby and Sanji far surpass Ussop in Observation

Could you give me an example or a scan proving that? I considered Sanji for Kenbunshoku, but not really Coby. I may have missed his when reading through.

@Bold
Bro No.1 Observation Haki user is:
Dracule "Hawkeye" Mihawk

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I disagree. Sure, Mihawk's Kenbunshoku is impressive, but definitely not the best. So he was able to identify Luffy in an open crowd from a fair distance. Good, yes, but Usopp identified 3 auras (Luffy, Law, & Sugar) from at least 5x the distance that Mihawk was from Luffy. Enel could basically watch the entire country with his Mantra. I saw the exact panel you posted while researching before making this thread, but deemed that Usopp at #3 has performed more impressive feats.

dafuq? Maybe just maybe the attack had that much force behind it?

Lmfao smfh at everyone thinking Haki is the sole reason for everything.

I never said it was all about the Arnament. Of course Luffy's attacks are still impressive without it. Think about Boundman as a car with the Arnament haki as its engine. Now sure, without the engine, it is still a car, but you're not really gonna be able to do much with it. There is obviously much more to the attacks than just the haki like the contraction, the size, his speed, etc. but it is an essential part of what makes Boundman's attacks so effective. Luffy could probably still make a muscle balloon and increase his size and mass to Gear 4th without hardening himself with Busoshoku, but it wouldn't be the same. That is why I think he makes the list; he does something with it that nobody else can and uses it damn effectively.

He was under water none of his attacks where at full potential
Ot: 1 CoA garp CoO the sniper from BB the guy hit a seagull from an island nuff said CoC shanks

Van Augur from Blackbeard's crew is an impressive sniper, no doubt. HOWEVER, I place Usopp above him for this reason;

Augur uses a rifle with multiple scopes on it. Usopp uses a fancy slingshot.

No Sabo on the list? Lol.

No, but he gets an honorable mention for Busoshoku.

 

[-Akuma-]

Wait, how do you know Luffy's haki doesn't get stronger? You don't. :bdpf:

Nothing implied they did and the burden of proof is on you. Miss me with that bullshit.

 

[Hexuze]

Luffy shouldn't even be top 3 yet...

 

[Insidious Smile]

Nothing implied they did and the burden of proof is on you. Miss me with that bullshit.

Oh, really? Is that a fact? Then how are Luffy and the rest supposed to go up against the 4 Yonko, Marines, BB's crew, The Gorosei, etc if their haki doesn't get stronger? You must be in favor of senseless powerups, typical coming from a Nardo fanboy.

This proves you don't know what the **** you're talking about, son. It has been stated that one can train CoO and CoA. The constant use of any of the 3 forms of haki will ultimately make the user of said abilities into master.

 

[-Akuma-]

Oh, really? Is that a fact? Then how are Luffy and the rest supposed to go up against the 4 Yonko, Marines, BB's crew, The Gorosei, etc if their haki doesn't get stronger? You must be in favor of senseless powerups, typical coming from a Nardo fanboy.

This proves you don't know what the **** you're talking about, son. It has been stated that one can train CoO and CoA. The constant use of any of the 3 forms of haki will ultimately make the user of said abilities into master.

Are you ****ing retarded? They literally just got out of an time skip where the sole purpose was to get stronger to take on the big names and you want them to get stronger when Luffy had only just shown his full power and Zoro and Sanji hasn't. That's how they're gonna compete, fu***ng stupid ass .


Get that stupid shit outta here, you have no proof his haki got stronger so you spout bullshit.

 

[Insidious Smile]

Are you ****ing retarded? They literally just got out of an time skip where the sole purpose was to get stronger to take on the big names and you want them to get stronger when Luffy had only just shown his full power and Zoro and Sanji hasn't. That's how they're gonna compete, fu***ng stupid ass .


Get that stupid shit outta here, you have no proof his haki got stronger so you spout bullshit.

And yet the Straw-hats are not strong enough to take on the big pirates and notorious members of the WG.

Luffy's going to face a Yonko 3 on 1? tell me another joke, Nardo weeb.

This is OP, where the the strategies that the main characters form to take down a powerful opponent dissolves almost immediately, ultimately leaving the main character (Luffy) in a 1v1 confrontation. You witnessed that in the Dressrosa Arc.

Unlike your precious Nardo manga, the main character does not gang up on the main villain 500 v 1.

Also, you expect me to believe that Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro are going to take down a Yonko without the members of the Yonko's crew taking part in the battle? You are delusional. :lol Zoro is going to have his hands full with Jack or any character with similar or grater strength.

Son, there is no cure for you overwhelming stupidity. Go play Call of Duty. :bdpf:

 

[ToshiZO]

Oh, really? Is that a fact? Then how are Luffy and the rest supposed to go up against the 4 Yonko, Marines, BB's crew, The Gorosei, etc if their haki doesn't get stronger? You must be in favor of senseless powerups, typical coming from a Nardo fanboy.

This proves you don't know what the **** you're talking about, son. It has been stated that one can train CoO and CoA. The constant use of any of the 3 forms of haki will ultimately make the user of said abilities into master.

Lmfao wtf that logic only works when the character isnt putting like 40% effort in an arc.

@JD
I see.

 

[-Akuma-]

And yet the Straw-hats are not strong enough to take on the big pirates and notorious members of the WG.

Luffy's going to face a Yonko 3 on 1? tell me another joke, Nardo weeb.

This is OP, where the the strategies that the main characters form to take down a powerful opponent dissolves almost immediately, ultimately leaving the main character (Luffy) in a 1v1 confrontation. You witnessed that in the Dressrosa Arc.

Unlike your precious Nardo manga, the main character does not gang up on the main villain 500 v 1.

Also, you expect me to believe that Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro are going to take down a Yonko without the members of the Yonko's crew taking part in the battle? You are delusional. :lol Zoro is going to have his hands full with Jack or any character with similar or grater strength.

Son, there is no cure for you overwhelming stupidity. Go play Call of Duty. :bdpf:

Not all of the SH are taking on the big names, in the end it will be Luffy fighting them with assistance. ****ing dumbass do you even know what a weeb is?



Are you retarded, they devise a plan which ultimately leads and end up with Luffy figthing the guy because he wants to. Luffy made an alliance so he would have more support when fighting you dumbass.


It's funny you mention the members of an Yonko's crew and Jack, someone that will most likely be dealt with before they reach Kaido, not to mention like in the DD conflict at the very least it will be the two captains squaring off. Law even said they're planning to weaken the Yonko before fighting them, how fu**ng stupid are you?

But back to the original point, show me where it was implied Luffy got stronger at all. Mind you this was before Luffy had even shown his full power, go on answer it dumbass.

 

[Insidious Smile]

Your lack of intelligence is hilarious to me .

Not all of the SH are taking on the big names, in the end it will be Luffy fighting them with assistance.

No shit, son.

****ing dumbass do you even know what a weeb is?

Yes. Do you? :lol

Are you retarded, they devise a plan which ultimately leads and end up with Luffy figthing the guy because he wants to. Luffy made an alliance so he would have more support when fighting you dumbass.

You are partly correct. A Yonko has the strongest members from his crew each leading a fleet, of course Luffy will need help when he faces a Yonko. Luffy will not defeat a Yonko+crew alone, son.

It's funny you mention the members of an Yonko's crew and Jack, someone that will most likely be dealt with before they reach Kaido, not to mention like in the DD conflict at the very least it will be the two captains squaring off. Law even said they're planning to weaken the Yonko before fighting them, how fu**ng stupid are you?

"Most likely." Two captains squaring off? What manga were you reading, son? Specify. The final fight was Luffy/Law VS Doffla/Trebol.

In your previous post you implied that Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro were going to face a Yonko without the members in the Yonko's crew taking part in the fight. Such a buffoon you are. :lol

But back to the original point, show me where it was implied Luffy got stronger at all. Mind you this was before Luffy had even shown his full power, go on answer it dumbass.

It has been stated in the manga that Luffy gets stronger fight after fight. I'm not going to go back and serch for just to prove you wrong.

It's the only way Luffy will be able to face a Yonko, by getting stronger fight after fight. Didn't I just write that experience makes a master?




Son, go play Call of Duty. :bdpf:

 

[Skull Knight]

I disagree. Sure, Mihawk's Kenbunshoku is impressive, but definitely not the best. So he was able to identify Luffy in an open crowd from a fair distance. Good, yes, but Usopp identified 3 auras (Luffy, Law, & Sugar) from at least 5x the distance that Mihawk was from Luffy. Enel could basically watch the entire country with his Mantra. I saw the exact panel you posted while researching before making this thread, but deemed that Usopp at #3 has performed more impressive feats.

Nope.
U must have watched Mihawk vs Luffy in anime.
In anime Mihawk tracked Luffy easily because 2guys were standing in between Him & Luffy.
But if u carefully watch that in manga u can see lots of guys(6guys in those 2panels)were standing/fighting/running in between Luffy and Mihawk. And it's safe to assume there were more guys in between Luffy and Mihawk as it was war. And Mihawk sliced that ice tsunami thing in next page.
Only guys who has better observation haki(feat wise) is Rayleigh, Enel(maybe).
And Van Augur's Observation Haki > Ussop.

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

Nope.
U must have watched Mihawk vs Luffy in anime.
In anime Mihawk tracked Luffy easily because 2guys were standing in between Him & Luffy.
But if u carefully watch that in manga u can see lots of guys(6guys in those 2panels)were standing/fighting/running in between Luffy and Mihawk. And it's safe to assume there were more guys in between Luffy and Mihawk as it was war. And Mihawk sliced that ice tsunami thing in next page.
Only guys who has better observation haki(feat wise) is Rayleigh, Enel(maybe).
And Van Augur's Observation Haki > Ussop.

I guess you missed the part where I said I read over that panel (and chapter) with Mihawk seeking out Luffy. Like yeah, he was probably a few hundred feet away or so, but there was an entire town between Sugar and Usopp and several walls/windows plus a serious elevation difference. Use this for reference.

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If you're basing Van Augur's level of Kenbunshoku upon the fact that he sniped those seagulls from an "impossible" distance, don't forget that Sogeking was sniping out Marines from an "impossible" distance as well at Enies Lobby... With his slingshot.

 

[Skull Knight]

I guess you missed the part where I said I read over that panel (and chapter) with Mihawk seeking out Luffy. Like yeah, he was probably a few hundred feet away

So u totally left the part where I said there were more guys in between Mihawk and Luffy. Come on bro Mihawk tracked Luffy in between a war. Lots of guys were fighting between them. Ussop only saw 3guys.

or so, but there was an entire town between Sugar and Usopp and several walls/windows

There was only 1 window :bdpf:

plus a serious elevation difference. Use this for reference.

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This doesnot matter because Ussop/Sogeking was shooting Marines before learning Observation Haki at Ennies Lobby. Distance was almost same.

If you're basing Van Augur's level of Kenbunshoku upon the fact that he sniped those seagulls from an "impossible" distance, don't forget that Sogeking was sniping out Marines from an "impossible" distance as well at Enies Lobby... With his slingshot.

Bro Van Augur was shooting seagulls from an island which was no where near Sunny/Merry. If I remember properly nobody saw Van Augur or that island where he was sitting. This proves Van Augur Observation Haki > Ussop current observation haki

 

[Naruto Boss]

Usopp shouldn't be on the list much less so high up. In dressrosa usopp was experiencing observation haki for the first time. He didn't even know what was happening

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

Nope.
U must have watched Mihawk vs Luffy in anime.
In anime Mihawk tracked Luffy easily because 2guys were standing in between Him & Luffy.
But if u carefully watch that in manga u can see lots of guys(6guys in those 2panels)were standing/fighting/running in between Luffy and Mihawk. And it's safe to assume there were more guys in between Luffy and Mihawk as it was war. And Mihawk sliced that ice tsunami thing in next page.
Only guys who has better observation haki(feat wise) is Rayleigh, Enel(maybe).
And Van Augur's Observation Haki > Ussop.

Fujitora actually have better feat than Mihawk ... he can hear Nami's lightning mile away! What it impressive from Mihawk tracked Luffy ... in just hundred meter away at best?

 

[nanadaime]

Could you give me an example or a scan proving that? I considered Sanji for Kenbunshoku, but not really Coby. I may have missed his when reading through.




I disagree. Sure, Mihawk's Kenbunshoku is impressive, but definitely not the best. So he was able to identify Luffy in an open crowd from a fair distance. Good, yes, but Usopp identified 3 auras (Luffy, Law, & Sugar) from at least 5x the distance that Mihawk was from Luffy. Enel could basically watch the entire country with his Mantra. I saw the exact panel you posted while researching before making this thread, but deemed that Usopp at #3 has performed more impressive feats.




I never said it was all about the Arnament. Of course Luffy's attacks are still impressive without it. Think about Boundman as a car with the Arnament haki as its engine. Now sure, without the engine, it is still a car, but you're not really gonna be able to do much with it. There is obviously much more to the attacks than just the haki like the contraction, the size, his speed, etc. but it is an essential part of what makes Boundman's attacks so effective. Luffy could probably still make a muscle balloon and increase his size and mass to Gear 4th without hardening himself with Busoshoku, but it wouldn't be the same. That is why I think he makes the list; he does something with it that nobody else can and uses it damn effectively.




Van Augur from Blackbeard's crew is an impressive sniper, no doubt. HOWEVER, I place Usopp above him for this reason;

Augur uses a rifle with multiple scopes on it. Usopp uses a fancy slingshot.





No, but he gets an honorable mention for Busoshoku.

Agreed. The fact that he uses a slingshot put him in the top ten snipers in OP since the beginning for me

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Luffy's armament isn't even that great.

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Vergo's armament > Luffy's from what I've seen.

Luffy's armament>>>>>>Vergo's. His haki was able to overpower Doflamingo's haki.
Even Doflamingo's haki had problems defending against blades like Luffy, he was bleeding from a strong force like this one:

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Vergo's was more hype if anything, he only overpowered Smoker's haki. Then Law stepped up and completely severed his body in one-shot without even using haki.