#Before Part 2 Hype
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salamander uchiha
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Poor Jiraiya he didn't know what would jappen to him, Itachi wouldn't need to do a thing Kisame would solo him like he does tailed beasts.
Our Lord Sasuke
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InfiniteMugen
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Personally with sm I think he can take kisame, mainly cause I’m not so sure samehada can absorb senjutsu.
Klubargutan
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Hell yea, Samehada turning into a stone frog - that would be awesome! I hate that "thing".
Besides, Jiraiya would definitely solo Kisame....Itachi on the other hand would most probably win 1 on 1 against Jiraiya...like 75 out of 100 matches
salamander uchiha
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No mate it can absorb Senjutsu isince it's already balanced. It isn't an issue also Samehada can pretty much avsorb 6 tails worth of chakra in 1 go. I doubt Jiraiya poses any issue or has the chakra reserves equal to 1 tails cloak let alone 6 tails worth.
Nice fanfic
InfiniteMugen
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Got a manga scan of samehada absorbing even nature energy? What is already balanced supposed to even mean? How would you know that? All we’ve seen it absorb is chakra, and give it to kisame. It can take and give huge amounts, nowhere was it shown it can manipulate it on its own
salamander uchiha
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You know natural energy and senjutsu are two different things right? Senjutsu is just natural energy balanced with chakra in equilibrium so it has 0 negative effect like turning into stone and what not. That's not an issue for Samehada since it's no longer pure natural energy which would be a problem, it's the same as absorbing chakra. As for asking for a scan then you know that's stupid since nobody has used SM against Kisame.
InfiniteMugen
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I know the difference, that’s why I asked. If taking already balanced nature energy was possible, pain wouldn’t of had any issues taking it from naruto. We know it’s properties aren’t the same as normal chakra, so no one can say samehada can easily absorb it. Whatever is absorbing it would either a.) have to balance it with their chakra or b.) in the case of senjutsu, keep it balanced. Samehada has shown nothing but the ability to absorb chakra and give it to it’s user
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salamander uchiha
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You're mistaken pain already absorbed senjutsu attacks with 0 ill effect because senjutsu is balanced. Naruto was stationary and started taking in more natural energy creating an imbalance. He didn't turn into a toad because pain was absorbing it (natural energy). The toad sage made it clear during training that when natural energy is absorbed in balance it becomes senjutsu, if too little is absorbed it has no effect and if too much you become a toad. Naruto did the latter against preta path by overloading on natural energy.
InfiniteMugen
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What attack did he absorb? I can’t look. Are we talking about the frs he lobs at deva? Cause that was shinra tensei
salamander uchiha
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InfiniteMugen
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Hmm that’s true. Fair point. That being said, didn’t samehada have an issue absorbing too much at some point in the manga? If thats the case couldn’t you just keep loading it up till it reaches max, especially with ma and pa doing most the work?
salamander uchiha
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You'd be right however the problem is Samehada's absorbtion speed is unrivalled it absorbs several tails chakra cloak worth of chakra in one attack. By the time Ma and Pa draw in the natural energy to overload or try to overload it they or Jiraiya would be dead. That is if they're not turned to stone because they were overloaded on natural energy while not having the chakra reserves to balance it out. Maybe if Samehada had a slower absorbtion speed then it wouldn't be much of an issue.
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