#Before Part 2 Hype

[Mellanoma]

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Little did Jiraiya know....

 

[Passerby]

Itachi would own him lol
Only way Jiraiya can win is if he manages to use Frog Genjutsu before Itachi one shots with Amatersu.

 

[uhmusddy]

I can’t wait for Sasuke to say that to Kara members when they try to abduct Boruto

 

[salamander uchiha]

Poor Jiraiya he didn't know what would jappen to him, Itachi wouldn't need to do a thing Kisame would solo him like he does tailed beasts.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Poor Jiraiya he didn't know what would jappen to him, Itachi wouldn't need to do a thing Kisame would solo him like he does tailed beasts.

Lol
Jiraiya can solo them without problem

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Personally with sm I think he can take kisame, mainly cause I’m not so sure samehada can absorb senjutsu.

 

[Klubargutan]

Personally with sm I think he can take kisame, mainly cause I’m not so sure samehada can absorb senjutsu.

Hell yea, Samehada turning into a stone frog - that would be awesome! I hate that "thing".

Besides, Jiraiya would definitely solo Kisame....Itachi on the other hand would most probably win 1 on 1 against Jiraiya...like 75 out of 100 matches

 

[salamander uchiha]

Personally with sm I think he can take kisame, mainly cause I’m not so sure samehada can absorb senjutsu.

No mate it can absorb Senjutsu isince it's already balanced. It isn't an issue also Samehada can pretty much avsorb 6 tails worth of chakra in 1 go. I doubt Jiraiya poses any issue or has the chakra reserves equal to 1 tails cloak let alone 6 tails worth.

Lol
Jiraiya can solo them without problem

Nice fanfic

 

[InfiniteMugen]

No mate it can absorb Senjutsu isince it's already balanced. It isn't an issue also Samehada can pretty much avsorb 6 tails wprth of chakra in 1 go I doubt Jiraiya poses any issue.

Got a manga scan of samehada absorbing even nature energy? What is already balanced supposed to even mean? How would you know that? All we’ve seen it absorb is chakra, and give it to kisame. It can take and give huge amounts, nowhere was it shown it can manipulate it on its own

 

[salamander uchiha]

Got a manga scan of samehada absorbing even nature energy? What is already balanced supposed to even mean? How would you know that? All we’ve seen it absorb is chakra

You know natural energy and senjutsu are two different things right? Senjutsu is just natural energy balanced with chakra in equilibrium so it has 0 negative effect like turning into stone and what not. That's not an issue for Samehada since it's no longer pure natural energy which would be a problem, it's the same as absorbing chakra. As for asking for a scan then you know that's stupid since nobody has used SM against Kisame.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

You know natural energy and senjutsu are two different things right? Senjutsu is just natural energy balanced with chakra in equilibrium so it has 0 negative effect like turning into stone and what not. That's not an issue for Samehada since it's no longer pure natural energy which would be a problem, it's the same as absorbing chakra. As for asking for a scan then you know that's stupid since nobody has used SM against Kisame.

I know the difference, that’s why I asked. If taking already balanced nature energy was possible, pain wouldn’t of had any issues taking it from naruto. We know it’s properties aren’t the same as normal chakra, so no one can say samehada can easily absorb it. Whatever is absorbing it would either a.) have to balance it with their chakra or b.) in the case of senjutsu, keep it balanced. Samehada has shown nothing but the ability to absorb chakra and give it to it’s user

 

[salamander uchiha]

I know the difference, that’s why I asked. If taking already balanced nature energy was possible, pain wouldn’t of had any issues taking it from naruto. We know it’s properties aren’t the same as normal chakra, so no one can say samehada can easily absorb it. Whatever is absorbing it would either a.) have to balance it with their chakra or b.) in the case of senjutsu, keep it balanced. Samehada has shown nothing but the ability to absorb chakra and give it to it’s user

You're mistaken pain already absorbed senjutsu attacks with 0 ill effect because senjutsu is balanced. Naruto was stationary and started taking in more natural energy creating an imbalance. He didn't turn into a toad because pain was absorbing it (natural energy). The toad sage made it clear during training that when natural energy is absorbed in balance it becomes senjutsu, if too little is absorbed it has no effect and if too much you become a toad. Naruto did the latter against preta path by overloading on natural energy.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

You're mistaken pain already absorbed senjutsu attacks with 0 ill effect because senjutsu is balanced. Naruto was stationary and started taking in more natural energy creating an imbalance. He didn't turn into a toad because pain was absorbing it (natural energy). The toad sage made it clear during training that when natural energy is absorbed in balance it becomes senjutsu, if too little is absorbed it has no effect and if too much you become a toad. Naruto did the latter against preta path by overloading on natural energy.

What attack did he absorb? I can’t look. Are we talking about the frs he lobs at deva? Cause that was shinra tensei

 

[salamander uchiha]

What attack did he absorb? I can’t look. Are we talking about the frs he lobs at deva? Cause that was shinra tensei

Jiraiya and the toad sages's jutsu.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Jiraiya and the toad sages's jutsu.

Hmm that’s true. Fair point. That being said, didn’t samehada have an issue absorbing too much at some point in the manga? If thats the case couldn’t you just keep loading it up till it reaches max, especially with ma and pa doing most the work?

 

[Sauce]

He wouldn't be able to kill Itachi at the end of the day, even if riddled with disease.

Itachi > Kabuto SM > Jiraiya SM

Kisame could either be placed on Jiraiya level or less maybe.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Hmm that’s true. Fair point. That being said, didn’t samehada have an issue absorbing too much at some point in the manga? If thats the case couldn’t you just keep loading it up till it reaches max, especially with ma and pa doing most the work?

You'd be right however the problem is Samehada's absorbtion speed is unrivalled it absorbs several tails chakra cloak worth of chakra in one attack. By the time Ma and Pa draw in the natural energy to overload or try to overload it they or Jiraiya would be dead. That is if they're not turned to stone because they were overloaded on natural energy while not having the chakra reserves to balance it out. Maybe if Samehada had a slower absorbtion speed then it wouldn't be much of an issue.

 

[ninjarasengan]

Itachi would own him lol
Only way Jiraiya can win is if he manages to use Frog Genjutsu before Itachi one shots with Amatersu.

Nah, he had the original Kote jutsu absorption scroll.=D