Base Naruto Vs Old Hiruzen

[~Uzumaki~]

Remenber
* Hiruzen doesn't have much chakra, he used Fire Tech, Earth Wall, Summoned Enma, then Dead Demon Seal then was out.
* Hiruzen's speed is 3 and Naruto's is 3.5 so taijutsu is meaningless
* Enma augments Hiruzen's taijutsu for devastating surprise but Naruto has clones for that as well
* Dead Demon Consuming Seal requires too much prep time.
* Naruto can use Giant Rasengans in base, he did so against Edo Madara
* Naruto can use clones to gather info on Hiruzen.
* Hiruzen has 5 in genjutsu but genjutsu doesn't affect Shadow Clones according to Itachi and Naruto knows how to break illusions.

 

[The Eye]

hiruzen for obvious reasons

 

[Gatsuuga]

shut up uzumaki16.

no one cares

Wow, bit rude......

Um, I say that hiruzen should win. Unless naruto uses a sh!t load of clones + summons and just waits for the old geezer to keel over, than I think he may lose haha

 

[Ryuu..]

Hiruzen would win this.

 

[home]

hiruzen low diff

 

[Itachi2020]

Hiruzen would win.

 

[Gutsy]

Remenber
* Hiruzen doesn't have much chakra, he used Fire Tech, Earth Wall, Summoned Enma, then Dead Demon Seal then was out.
* Hiruzen's speed is 3 and Naruto's is 3.5 so taijutsu is meaningless
* Enma augments Hiruzen's taijutsu for devastating surprise but Naruto has clones for that as well
* Dead Demon Consuming Seal requires too much prep time.
* Naruto can use Giant Rasengans in base, he did so against Edo Madara
* Naruto can use clones to gather info on Hiruzen.
* Hiruzen has 5 in genjutsu but genjutsu doesn't affect Shadow Clones according to Itachi and Naruto knows how to break illusions.

Alright i will go through this:

1. Even in Old Age Hiruzen Sarutobi (The Professor and God of Shinobi) has tons of Chakra, didn't you see he freakin used tons of jutsu and he was still fine no problem and he still had enough chakra to use the dead demon consuming seal.
2. Hiruzen is quite fast even in old age, he was able to keep up with Orochimaru, Edo Hashirama and Tobirama and blow 1st and 2nd up without them noticing.
3. Dead demon consuming seal takes time, but didn't you see, Hiruzen was under a genjutsu, he had two clones and still managed to hold his ground against Orochimaru and Edo's.
4. Hiruzen can use clones too, but Hiruzen won't he will just burn them all away with his immense skills in fire jutsu, he would have taken out everyone around him if it wasn't for Tobirama.
5. Genjutsu won't matter in this fight, since naruto won't be affected anyway because of Kurama.

Clearly this fight goes to Hiruzen Sarutobi with mid-high difficulty because of his skill and his summon

 

[Blaze Release]

How the hell can people say old hiruzen, seriously, has such hype filled your minds.
From what we have seen from both base naruto beats old hiruzen with low to mid difficulty.

 

[The Eye]

How the hell can people say old hiruzen, seriously, has such hype filled your minds.
From what we have seen from both base naruto beats old hiruzen with low to mid difficulty.

i'll give you one hint...genjutsu

 

[Vasto Lordé]

Lol....

 

[Better]

i'll give you one hint...genjutsu

Hiruzen can use genjutsu?

 

[The Eye]

for people saying naruto would break out the genjutsu using karama. One i have yet to see naruto break out of a genjutsu on his own, second using karama wouldnt be naruto base form.

 

[Blaze Release]

i'll give you one hint...genjutsu

Link me a manga chapter

 

[The Eye]

Hiruzen can use genjutsu?

a kage with a 5 in genjutsu better know something. yes im speculating but i think its safe to say with hiruzen.

 

[Blaze Release]

a kage with a 5 in genjutsu better know something. yes im speculating but i think its safe to say with hiruzen.

I dont do speculating in vs threads. I go by what both characters have shown in the manga and from what we have seen, base naruto shits on hiruzen.

Im certain old hiruzen is stronger, much stronger than base naruto, but as i said i go by what we have seen

 

[The Eye]

I dont do speculating in vs threads. I go by what both characters have shown in the manga and from what we have seen, base naruto shits on hiruzen.

Im certain old hiruzen is stronger, much stronger than base naruto, but as i said i go by what we have seen

i understand what your saying, cant blame me blame kishgi for not having mor echaracter development to other characters other than itachi saskue and naruto. but the only way i see the 3rd winning this is by genjutsu as its naruto strongest weakness in his base form. base as in no outside influence.

 

[Better]

a kage with a 5 in genjutsu better know something. yes im speculating but i think its safe to say with hiruzen.

doesn't oro have 5 in genjutsu too?

having a 5 doesn't make you good at it, maybe he got for dispelling Bringer of Darkness

 

[The Eye]

doesn't oro have 5 in genjutsu too?

having a 5 doesn't make you good at it, maybe he got for dispelling Bringer of Darkness

yes, which i think he deserves. and having a 5 must mean your good at it, if that wasnt the case then jairya would have had a 5 instead of a 3 or 3.5. never the less, in terms of raw power naruto, but if hiruzen is able to cast even the bringer of Darkness jutsu on naruto and naruto only stays in his base form then i dont see naruto winning this.

 

[FloriGlori]

doesn't oro have 5 in genjutsu too?

having a 5 doesn't make you good at it, maybe he got for dispelling Bringer of Darkness

Having five points at something doesn't make you good at it? That's new to me.

Having five points at a certain category is invariable proof for being good at something, regardless if it was shown or not. Not to mention that Orochimaru already used Genjutsu various times.