Base Naruto Jonin lvl ??

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idont think soo
Course he could beat kakashi :p even with kakashi's sharingan a few well placed attack from naruto would end it. yes kakashi is smarter and has more experiance but there is no reason why it couldnt happen. Naruto has loads more power and is unpredictable because of his many kage bunshins. The fact that kakashi wouldnt have a sharingan with his basic abilities just makes naruto more obviously dominant.
 

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i agree but the thing is that he didnt train to be a sage for that long if i recall correctly but his speed did end up slighly increasing somehow. I noticed after i saw him in that small fight with killer b's pupals :cool:
He didn't train for that long but every time we saw him even after using Sage Mode he looked battered. He trained in Frog Katas, probably meaning that he exhausted his Sage Mode body to the point that his normal speed increased too.

It's like when you use creatine to give your body a boost to work out for four months, you're body would still be stronger than it was before you started taking creatine even after you lose it in your body. You may not have as much power as you do on it, but it still gives you more power than you would have if you hadn't taken it at all.
 

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i dont get why so many people are saying hes not i mean he defeated kakazu a ninja even kakashi had trouble with and it wasnt just with brute force he used tactics as well how is he not jounin
 

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right now yes he beat some tough guys by himself that even kakashi couldn't handle with a team so yeah that sounds about right more or less he is of senju and minato son so i dnt expect less from him?.:scorps:
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Base Naruto can't be consider a jonin unless you are adding his ability to summon toads.And even if you do, I still would only place him at the level of high chunin.Without the toads, he basically one of the weakest member of the Konoha 11.And by Base Naruto, I mean Naruto before he achieved Sage Mode, but after Rasenshuriken.Out of the Konoha 11, Base Naruto would rank near the bottom, maybe ahead of Ino and Tenten, but behind everyone else.Now some will disagree, but Let's take a look at naruto before he became a sage.

List of jutsus.
Rasengan
Odama Rasengan
Rasenshuriken
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Summoning Technique (excluding)
Sexy Jutsu

From the list of naruto jutsus, he only a close range fighter.Out of all the Konoha 11, he near the bottom intelligence.Naruto even after he became a sage, and learned to control Kurama still makes genin level mistake that none of his comrades of the Konoha 11 would make.Now we know the power of naruto's jutsus rank near the top of Konoha 11, but being a close rank fighter with no mid to long range jutsus, combined with his low intelligence is too many redflags to put his name along side Kakashi, Darui,Asuma,Kurotsuchi,Temari, etc
 
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feel like this is a commen sence question. yes his is a jonin lvl shinobi.

his SM put him above Jonin and at Kage lvl easy.

SM is what brought 3rd raikage down.

KM combo with SM clones is way above KAGE level

BM can counter a 5 TTB for power and he is the fastest shinobi in naruto.

he starts at a high end Jonin to become damn close to most powerful shinobi alive.

by the end of the naruto he will be the number 1 or number 2 of all time.
 

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feel like this is a commen sence question. yes his is a jonin lvl shinobi.

his SM put him above Jonin and at Kage lvl easy.

SM is what brought 3rd raikage down.

KM combo with SM clones is way above KAGE level

BM can counter a 5 TTB for power and he is the fastest shinobi in naruto.

he starts at a high end Jonin to become damn close to most powerful shinobi alive.

by the end of the naruto he will be the number 1 or number 2 of all time.
Firstly, the word is common sense.Secondly, try reading the thread before you post.Base Naruto, doesn't have Sage Mode or Kyubi Mode.
 

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Firstly, the word is common sense.Secondly, try reading the thread before you post.Base Naruto, doesn't have Sage Mode or Kyubi Mode.
i'm saying he starts out high lvl jonin.

then progresses past that.

fast, strong, agile, endurance like non other, massive chakra pool.

naruto is easily at or above sasukes base lvl
 

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Depends what you mean with Base... If you mean without Kurama: Yes, he is high Jonin to Kage...

He has:
-Huge chakra levels...
-Sage mode: Great streanth/speed and enhanced chakra... A jutsu of a Sanin...
-Rasengan (and variations): Powerfull Jutsu
-Rasenshuriken (and variations):Extreamly Powerfull Jutsu
-Multiple shadow clone: Makes him a one-man army...

Basically, he can be a 1000 man army, with each one of them using extreamlly powerfull jutsus, like Rasengan/Rasenshuriken, that can kill on contact... So, yeah, Even his base form could become a kage... U_U

Without Sage Mode, he is still High-Jonin, cause of the other jutsu + his chakra level... U_U
 
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Depends what you mean with Base... If you mean without Kurama: Yes, he is high Jonin...

He has:
-Sage mode: Great streanth/speed and enhanced chakra... A jutsu of a Sanin...
-Rasengan (and variations): Powerfull Jutsu
-Rasenshuriken (and variations):Extreamly Powerfull Jutsu
-Multiple shadow clone: Makes him a one-man army...

Basically, he can be a 1000 man army, with each one of them using extreamlly powerfull jutsus, like Rasengan/Rasenshuriken, that can kill on contact... So, yeah, Even his base form could become a kage... U_U
with base he means no sage mode , no km , no bm , hes still high jonin then U_U
ok saw your edit agreed :)
 

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i'm saying he starts out high lvl jonin.

then progresses past that.

fast, strong, agile, endurance like non other, massive chakra pool.

naruto is easily at or above sasukes base lvl
Apparently, you still don't get it.This thread is about Base Naruto.Base Naruto is the naruto before Sage Mode and Kyubi mode.You can't actually believe that Base Naruto is anywhere near Base Sasuke's level.

Fast- Base Sasuke, Rock Lee, Neji, and Kiba are all faster than Base Naruto.
Agile- Nearly all shinobis are agile.
Endurance - Nine tails
Massive Chakra- The only thing he has over most shinobi
Intelligence- Naruto is one of the dumbest shinobis in the entire series.Intelligence is a vital part of being a Chunin,so it's a must for someone to be a jonin.

I don't know what you don't understand, but thinking Base Naruto is of a jonin's level is a stretch.Base Naruto being "easily at or above sasukes base lvl" is idiotic bordering on metal retardation.

Base Sasuke's Speed, Intelligence, Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, and Hand Seals rank above Base Naruto's.Not to mention, Base Sasuke has more jutsus which vary from close to longe range, compare to Base Naruto who's only a close range figher.
 
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Intelligence- Naruto is one of the dumbest shinobis in the entire series.Intelligence is a vital part of being a Chunin,so it's a must for someone to be a jonin.
Actually, hes one of most clever shinobi when it comes to combat.

Hes fast even in base (saving Sakura), and has great skill with his clones and transformation jutsus. I dont see how base Naruto is weaker than Asuma. Definietly Jounin level.
 

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Actually, hes one of most clever shinobi when it comes to combat.

Hes fast even in base (saving Sakura), and has great skill with his clones and transformation jutsus. I dont see how base Naruto is weaker than Asuma. Definietly Jounin level.
lol its funny , dont matter with how many facts u can come up with here , some people are still in denial :shrug:
 

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Apparently, you still don't get it.This thread is about Base Naruto.Base Naruto is the naruto before Sage Mode and Kyubi mode.You can't actually believe that Base Naruto is anywhere near Base Sasuke's level.

Fast- Base Sasuke, Rock Lee, Neji, and Kiba are all faster than Base Naruto.
Agile- Nearly all shinobis are agile.
Endurance - Nine tails
Massive Chakra- The only thing he has over most shinobi
Intelligence- Naruto is one of the dumbest shinobis in the entire series.Intelligence is a vital part of being a Chunin,so it's a must for someone to be a jonin.

I don't know what you don't understand, but thinking Base Naruto is of a jonin's level is a stretch.Base Naruto being "easily at or above sasukes base lvl" is idiotic bordering on metal retardation.
i beleave naruto base lvl is higher then sasukes base lvl.

your saying he has learned nothing but power ups during these past like 300 chapters in manga.

you make no sence.
naruto's endurance and chakra is the uzumaki bread and butter it seems. its not just the 9tail.

he's show afew times that he's not the smartest in conversation but in battle his intel is way past chunin lvl.

i'm also guessing him saving sakura didn't change anything for his speed vs that super fast sasuke.
 

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i beleave naruto base lvl is higher then sasukes base lvl.

your saying he has learned nothing but power ups during these past like 300 chapters in manga.

you make no sence.
naruto's endurance and chakra is the uzumaki bread and butter it seems. its not just the 9tail.

he's show afew times that he's not the smartest in conversation but in battle his intel is way past chunin lvl.

i'm also guessing him saving sakura didn't change anything for his speed vs that super fast sasuke.
Base Sasuke would Wreck Base naruto.

If it came Down to Combat skills/Planning Ahead, sasuke would murder him. (I count Base sasuke with 3 tomoe Sharingan, No ms/Ems forms or curseseal.

Sasuke is a Better Ninja and more skilled allround than naruto.
 
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