Base Naruto Jonin lvl ??

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NO! low joinin at best, but definately high chunin! His best move is Rasenshuriken, but cannot use it because it hurts him! So we take that jutsu away. Next we have his "boss summons", NO! why? because that is kyubi chakra naruto, not base naruto (fact!) he has to burrow the fox chakra to summon Gamabunta! So next we have rasengan!.. No! why? because unlike his dad minato, he has to prep it with atleast 1 clone (fact), it isnt instant or nearly as fast as minato! (fact)

You guys are overating base naruto to the fullest!

Sasuke base? Now that Ninja is definately joinin level!!! along with neji!
 

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NO! low joinin at best, but definately high chunin! His best move is Rasenshuriken, but cannot use it because it hurts him! So we take that jutsu away. Next we have his "boss summons", NO! why? because that is kyubi chakra naruto, not base naruto (fact!) he has to burrow the fox chakra to summon Gamabunta! So next we have rasengan!.. No! why? because unlike his dad minato, he has to prep it with atleast 1 clone (fact), it isnt instant or nearly as fast as minato! (fact)

You guys are overating base naruto to the fullest!

Sasuke base? Now that Ninja is definately joinin level!!! along with neji!
The only reason Rasen Shuriken hurted him was because he had to thrust it in his opponent when first developed. Now that he can throw it, it's all good. It doesn't hurt him anymore.
 

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Are you retarded? Rasengan is the highest form of chakra manipulation also developed by the 4th hokage himself, And summoning the boss is defiantly above S Rank. It takes alot of chakra in naruto base mode to summon gamma. :flaw::flaw:
i doesn't mean it's damn S - rank
in for rasengan it was said in the dmn manga by Jiraiya that it was a A - rank tech go look it up goof ball
 
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The only reason Rasen Shuriken hurted him was because he had to thrust it in his opponent when first developed. Now that he can throw it, it's all good. It doesn't hurt him anymore.
Thats in sage mode or kurama helping him mode(s).

He has never ever in a million years been shown throwing the rasenshuriken in base mode with no sage or kurama help! That is what sets sage mode/km mode apart from base naruto.

And again, the only reason he helped defeated kukuzu (kakashi killed him, not naruto) was because kakuzu took on a team before hand and was already worn out and it wasnt one on one! otherwise with 5 hearts kukuzu would of destroyed naruto!
 

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Are you retarded? Rasengan is the highest form of chakra manipulation also developed by the 4th hokage himself, And summoning the boss is defiantly above S Rank. It takes alot of chakra in naruto base mode to summon gamma. :flaw::flaw:
Summoning Gamabunta isn't S-Rank? You're crazy. Anyone can summon him if they focus and use a high amount of Chakra.
 

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Thats in sage mode or kurama helping him mode(s).

He has never ever in a million years been shown throwing the rasenshuriken in base mode with no sage or kurama help! That is what sets sage mode/km mode apart from base naruto.

And again, the only reason he helped defeated kukuzu (kakashi killed him, not naruto) was because kakuzu took on a team before hand and was already worn out and it wasnt one on one! otherwise with 5 hearts kukuzu would of destroyed naruto!
you do not know what would've happen if Naruto fought him , so please don't say things when you have no idea what could've happen
 

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actually he is kage level
or probably higher
I agree. Since sage mode counts as base he is Kage level. He's just hot headed and stupid at times. He defeated Pain who single handedly destroyed Konoha. Yes he transformed into the fox but became normal again and defeated Tendo Pain that way with his logic. Bijuu mode is now a plus. He contains an S-Rank technic which is Rasen Shiruken. The only person to take Rasengan to it's ultimate form. He's kage level. If he can work on his intelligence, he has potential to be top Hokage with the 1st and 4th.
 

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you do not know what would've happen if Naruto fought him , so please don't say things when you have no idea what could've happen
I see ive spotted a mega fanboi! (food for the fishes!)

Lets see, 5 hearts, no Shikamaru and kakashi (arguably 2 of the top 3 smartest in the village) to figure his secrets out (kakashi did tell naruto his abilitys, fact). All elements, that includes earth to stop the wind that naruto used?

Get serious kid! Naruto stood no chance outside of kuramas help! PERIOD! And anyone who thinks so is retared (no offense to the ppl that are mentally disable)
 

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Thats in sage mode or kurama helping him mode(s).

He has never ever in a million years been shown throwing the rasenshuriken in base mode with no sage or kurama help! That is what sets sage mode/km mode apart from base naruto.

And again, the only reason he helped defeated kukuzu (kakashi killed him, not naruto) was because kakuzu took on a team before hand and was already worn out and it wasnt one on one! otherwise with 5 hearts kukuzu would of destroyed naruto!
Yes kakashi finished him off but what was kakuzu going to do? He was done for. Rasen Shuriken completely disabled him. He wouldn't be able to mold chakra again. Naruto could've walked up and used Rasengan to bash his head in after. Yes they killed 2 of his hearts but Kakuzu didn't get serious until Naruto walked on the battle field. And since you say Sage mode won't count as base then Kakashi with no sharingan should be in the same boat.
 

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I see ive spotted a mega fanboi! (food for the fishes!)

Lets see, 5 hearts, no Shikamaru and kakashi (arguably 2 of the top 3 smartest in the village) to figure his secrets out (kakashi did tell naruto his abilitys, fact). All elements, that includes earth to stop the wind that naruto used?

Get serious kid! Naruto stood no chance outside of kuramas help! PERIOD! And anyone who thinks so is retared (no offense to the ppl that are mentally disable)
well look at it , since sage mode is considered as base mode mode i think he can beat him since he beat pain ( and no i'm not mentally disabled ) lol
 

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Yes kakashi finished him off but what was kakuzu going to do? He was done for. Rasen Shuriken completely disabled him. He wouldn't be able to mold chakra again. Naruto could've walked up and used Rasengan to bash his head in after. Yes they killed 2 of his hearts but Kakuzu didn't get serious until Naruto walked on the battle field. And since you say Sage mode won't count as base then Kakashi with no sharingan should be in the same boat.
agreed
 

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I see ive spotted a mega fanboi! (food for the fishes!)

Lets see, 5 hearts, no Shikamaru and kakashi (arguably 2 of the top 3 smartest in the village) to figure his secrets out (kakashi did tell naruto his abilitys, fact). All elements, that includes earth to stop the wind that naruto used?

Get serious kid! Naruto stood no chance outside of kuramas help! PERIOD! And anyone who thinks so is retared (no offense to the ppl that are mentally disable)
Go rewatch that arc. The only reason they got that far was because of Shikamaru's devised plan. The first heart Kakashi got from creeping around corners and using Chidori. I guarantee they wouldn't have gotten any more hearts if Shikamaru didn't setup getting his blood so Hidan would use it against him in trickery. Naruto took out three by himself in 2 attempts.
 
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