Base Naruto Jonin lvl ??

knowledge561 · Mar 10, 2012

byakumuu said:
to end all debates he is at jounin level and possibly low kage level in base....

Completely agree.

Draegod · Mar 10, 2012

knowledge561 said:
Yes kakashi finished him off but what was kakuzu going to do? He was done for. Rasen Shuriken completely disabled him. He wouldn't be able to mold chakra again. Naruto could've walked up and used Rasengan to bash his head in after. Yes they killed 2 of his hearts but Kakuzu didn't get serious until Naruto walked on the battle field. And since you say Sage mode won't count as base then Kakashi with no sharingan should be in the same boat.

Wrong again! Naruto was basically done after that jutsu, no chakra and couldnt walk! And base kakshi is with out sharingan, thats why it is called BASE! and kakashi is still beast with out the sharingan, he can still use his jutsu's the sharingan just helps him win thru its abilitys..

Monkeysageof6paths said:
well look at it , since sage mode is considered as base mode mode i think he can beat him since he beat pain ( and no i'm not mentally disabled ) lol

LMMFAO!!!! hahahah Do you not read what you post?????? So your saying at the time naruto helped gang up on kakuzu he had sage mode????

Then on top of that, naruto had soooooooooooooooo mush help defeating pain its rediculas!!!!!!!!!!!! he was in no way in the same league with pain with sage mode!!!!!!!!!! it was even fair! Evn with all the info and help he still should/could of died! (fact!!!!)! So dont ever compare sage mode naruto with the 6 paths of pain!

Finally! Just because naruto defeated another shinobi, doesnt mean he can defat another. That logic is only for kids!
Just because A>B>C, doesnt mean A>C.

Mr.Beastie · Mar 10, 2012

Monkeysageof6paths said:
soo ? it's his special power , it's like saying that neji only won because he had the byakugan .

yeah but we are talking about base naruto. If he uses his kyubii chakra he isnt base naruto anymore.

Draegod · Mar 10, 2012

knowledge561 said:
Go rewatch that arc. The only reason they got that far was because of Shikamaru's devised plan. The first heart Kakashi got from creeping around corners and using Chidori. I guarantee they wouldn't have gotten any more hearts if Shikamaru didn't setup getting his blood so Hidan would use it against him in trickery. Naruto took out three by himself in 2 attempts.

First off, Read the manga, do not watch the anime! Only noobs use the anime for reference. Second, Naruto took out 2 HEARTS NOT 3 (FACT)!.
Third, what does that have to do with the fact that it was because of shika and kakshi that naruto was in the position to finish him off (and still couldnt!).

Reread the manga, before you come at me..

knowledge561 · Mar 10, 2012

Draegod said:
Wrong again! Naruto was basically done after that jutsu, no chakra and couldnt walk! And base kakshi is with out sharingan, thats why it is called BASE! and kakashi is still beast with out the sharingan, he can still use his jutsu's the sharingan just helps him win thru its abilitys..

LMMFAO!!!! hahahah Do you not read what you post?????? So your saying at the time naruto helped gang up on kakuzu he had sage mode????

Then on top of that, naruto had soooooooooooooooo mush help defeating pain its rediculas!!!!!!!!!!!! he was in no way in the same league with pain with sage mode!!!!!!!!!! it was even fair! Evn with all the info and help he still should/could of died! (fact!!!!)! So dont ever compare sage mode naruto with the 6 paths of pain!

Finally! Just because naruto defeated another shinobi, doesnt mean he can defat another. That logic is only for kids!
Just because A>B>C, doesnt mean A>C.

Did you forget that Naruto rushed to be backup with no rest during training? He wasn't even at 100%. Probably like 50%. Maybe even less. Base Kakashi was getting done in and only Shikamaru or Naruto could've beat Kakuzu.

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

knowledge561 said:
Go rewatch that arc. The only reason they got that far was because of Shikamaru's devised plan. The first heart Kakashi got from creeping around corners and using Chidori. I guarantee they wouldn't have gotten any more hearts if Shikamaru didn't setup getting his blood so Hidan would use it against him in trickery. Naruto took out three by himself in 2 attempts.

thanks for the support

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

byakumuu said:
to end all debates he is at jounin level and possibly low kage level in base....

agreed

Mr.Beastie · Mar 10, 2012

byakumuu said:
to end all debates he is at jounin level and possibly low kage level in base....

low kage lvl.....hell no"!

Draegod · Mar 10, 2012

knowledge561 said:
Did you forget that Naruto rushed to be backup with no rest during training? He wasn't even at 100%. Probably like 50%. Maybe even less. Base Kakashi was getting done in and only Shikamaru or Naruto could've beat Kakuzu.

**sigh** Really? -______-..

Naruto having the chakra to use his rasengan has nothing to do with his health, sure if he was healthy he would of had a chance to last with kakuzu, but never in a million years with out the fox defeat him in base form!

Then you say shika could defeat him???? Get out of here!!! Shika stood no chance in hell! period! one on one shika is weak, in a team he is pro!

First base naruto, now shika??? Do you even read the manga????

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

Mr.Beastie said:
yeah but we are talking about base naruto. If he uses his kyubii chakra he isnt base naruto anymore.

yeah your right

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

Draegod said:
**sigh** Really? -______-..

Naruto having the chakra to use his rasengan has nothing to do with his health, sure if he was healthy he would of had a chance to last with kakuzu, but never in a million years with out the fox defeat him in base form!

Then you say shika could defeat him???? Get out of here!!! Shika stood no chance in hell! period! one on one shika is weak, in a team he is pro!

First base naruto, now shika??? Do you even read the manga????

well , he did defeat Hidan just by using his brains , so why the hell not with kakuzu ??

Draegod · Mar 10, 2012

Monkeysageof6paths said:
well , he did defeat Hidan just by using his brains , so why the hell not with kakuzu ??

please tell me your being hard headed on purpose. smh

He had a whole day to plan against hidan! And it was because of asuma that he had the intell and a chance at fighting hidan. THEn on top of that it was because of Kakashi that he had the bloob to trick hidan! Shika is nothing more then a chunin period!!! He is highly overrated its sad!...

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

Draegod said:
please tell me your being hard headed on purpose. smh

He had a whole day to plan against hidan! And it was because of asuma that he had the intell and a chance at fighting hidan. THEn on top of that it was because of Kakashi that he had the bloob to trick hidan! Shika is nothing more then a chunin period!!! He is highly overrated its sad!...

he's not overrated O_O and i'm not talking about him beating kakuzu just after hid an , i mean if he fought kakuzu instead of Hidan , it would've probably been the same result

Jovetic11 · Mar 10, 2012

i think he's at jonin level even before basemode

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

Jovetic11 said:
i think he's at jonin level even before basemode

what do you mean he's jonin level BEFORE base mode ?? that doesn't quite make any sense

Monkey d garp · Mar 10, 2012

minator93 said:
Base Naruto Withstood Deva's ST, Base Naruto Killed Kakuzu

Now Kakashi is the highest height of all Jounins i.e. almost a Kage and Base Naruto has already surpassed him.

So Base Naruto is almost Kage lvl.

With SM he surpasses the Kages [Note : his SM is Different than Jiraya's Incomplete SM]

With KM he is on par with Hashirama and Edo Madara

With BM he surpasses the 2 sons and is second to only SOSP.

lmfao you are a retard from your previous posts i know that you are a fanboy but that is just dickriding on the highest level

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

Monkey d garp said:
lmfao you are a retard from your previous posts i know that you are a fanboy but that is just dickriding on the highest level

no sh*t haha

blackbird31468 · Mar 10, 2012

base naruto is not jonin rank, more chunin rank. he doesn't have much skill, intelligence, no gen, average tai, prety slow and a very small arsenal of techniques.

Monkeysageof6paths · Mar 10, 2012

blackbird31468 said:
base naruto is not jonin rank, more chunin rank. he doesn't have much skill, intelligence, no gen, average tai, prety slow and a very small arsenal of techniques.

very small arsenal ??? WTH ??! your shittin' me right ??? he his very strategist , decent speed , he had enough skill to developing a S-Rank tech

Monkey d garp · Mar 10, 2012

i think he is a average jonin in base but just because of the shadow clone spamm and high chakra level imo it would be enough for asuma with high difficulty

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