Base Naruto is equal or better than 3T sasuke (war arc)

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Base Naruto = 3T Sasuke @ Vote2 - Rinnegan cooldown

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Base Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>> Base Noodles
Base Naruto negs.

Naruto doesn't need enhanced eye vision to fight. (Someone with Rinnegan who has better vision than Sharingan)
All base naruto have to do against 3T sasuke is simply make a large amount of shadow clones and have most if not all of them use big ball rasengan. 3tamoe sasuke is pretty much dead after that, especially since he uses clones much more effectively. if someone can prove me wrong, now is your time.
 
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Out of your mind op precog negs? Genjutsu rapes ? Superior speed rapes sasukes still just as fast he just cant use ameno in this situation naruto literally needs his modes to dodge sasuke who can catch up to jubbi jin madara using footspeed this is so dumb try base naruto<base sasuke still because of inferior speed... ridiculous stop underrating sasuke simply because you hate him
 

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Base Naruto and 3T Sasuke are equal.

Out of your mind op precog negs? Genjutsu rapes ? Superior speed rapes sasukes still just as fast he just cant use ameno in this situation naruto literally needs his modes to dodge sasuke who can catch up to jubbi jin madara using footspeed this is so dumb try base naruto<base sasuke still because of inferior speed... ridiculous stop underrating sasuke simply because you hate him
Speed is one of the most inconsistent abilities in the entire manga/series. Characters are only as fast or slow as the manga requires them to be at the time they use their speed regardless how fast or slow they truly are.

IE. Fans went crazy when they saw Sasuke cut Madara in half - - They claim he could bliz Madara. Yet, Sasuke couldn't bliz Madara when he returned from Obito's world - - Sasuke wasn't even fast enough to complete his attack. He was forced to block. Also, Sasuke couldn't even reach Sakura before she reached Madara - - Sakura was the slowed person there.

Rinnegan/3T Sasuke wasn't able to bliz base Naruto when they clashed at the VOTE 2 -

Sasuke isn't raping Naruto in genjutsu. Even Itachi, one of the best genjutsu, had to attack Naruto's emotions to stop him from defeating his genjutsu at the beginning of the Part 2.
 
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How about base sasuke ? No sharingan ...... he literally gets eaten alive by base naruto . If we want to use 3T , we must give naruto TSM .and wasn't base naruto going tit for tat with 3T sasuke and stale mating ?
 

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Or you're just in denial. that works too.



Disagrees with OP, so results to lazy half assed insults with no base of evidence. that alone makes me more confident i'm right. thanks :p



for which part? i hope you're not talking about the valley of the end fight. that should be known to anyone by now who has used the internet in the past year, let alone had an account on this site that does nothing but talk about that fight.


Honestly, you guys exaggerate sasuke's swordsmanship. never has his sword been useful against NAMED characters. never. it's just a fodder-slayer weapon. the fact that naruto was able to catch non-fodder character swords honestly adds more credibility to naruto.

sure why not.
I mean use spoilers because it is annoying for the pictures to be just left out like that. It makes your post more organized, less messy and easier for people's computers.
 

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Out of your mind op precog negs? Genjutsu rapes ? Superior speed rapes sasukes still just as fast he just cant use ameno in this situation naruto literally needs his modes to dodge sasuke who can catch up to jubbi jin madara using footspeed this is so dumb try base naruto<base sasuke still because of inferior speed... ridiculous stop underrating sasuke simply because you hate him
I've already debunked all of these in my thread. me hate sasuke? is that why i have him as my background on my phone and laptop? stay salty sasuage scrub cause i can't be called both a naruto and sasuke hater.

How about base sasuke ? No sharingan ...... he literally gets eaten alive by base naruto . If we want to use 3T , we must give naruto TSM .and wasn't base naruto going tit for tat with 3T sasuke and stale mating ?
overkill. base naruto would stomp base sasuke, it took tamoe 2 sharingan sasuke just to keep them equal back in part 1. also, stamina, chakra, big ball rasengans and clones is all naruto needs to stomp 3T sasuke. only reason they were stalemating in their final fight is because they both were tired and low on chakra by the time they were out of their giant avatar forms.

I mean use spoilers because it is annoying for the pictures to be just left out like that. It makes your post more organized, less messy and easier for people's computers.
okay
 

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Like I said, VOTE 2 was special. Both were severely weakened at that point.
Doesn't matter, though. Because like you said, they both were weakened equally.

Same results would happen in a healty state all the same. Only way for your post to have any actual grounding is for Sasuke to be more weakened than Naruto, but actually, Naruto was fighting in the war way longer than Sasuke. But later they both were given powers by Rikuou, and they both fought Kaguya.
 

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Doesn't matter, though. Because like you said, they both were weakened equally.

Same results would happen in a healty state all the same. Only way for your post to have any actual grounding is for Sasuke to be more weakened than Naruto, but actually, Naruto was fighting in the war way longer than Sasuke. But later they both were given powers by Rikuou, and they both fought Kaguya.
Lol. I said they were both severely weakened, I didn't say they were equally weakened(in their different qualities eg speed, chakra, that kind of stuff). Besides just because it happened at VOTE2 doesn't mean it would happen if they were both healthy. After all Naruto tripped on a rock at VOTE2. lol. Also, Naruto had some Kurama help, not really sure if that counts as base mode.

Sasuke's speed doesn't really change. So if they were both healthy, Naruto would need at the very least SM to sense base sasuke's movements(reacting to them is a completely different story).

How about base sasuke ? No sharingan ...... he literally gets eaten alive by base naruto . If we want to use 3T , we must give naruto TSM .and wasn't base naruto going tit for tat with 3T sasuke and stale mating ?
Sasuke = Naruto. Base Sasuke >>>> Base Naruto. Their powers don't scale up at the same rate. Base Sasuke would slaughter base Naruto.

And like I said to Indra. Just because it happened in VOTE2 doesn't mean it will always happen when rested. both were severely weakened. Naruto could only make 3 clones and a rasengan at that point. And sasuke couldn't even hold a chidori.
 

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Lol. I said they were both severely weakened, I didn't say they were equally weakened(in their different qualities eg speed, chakra, that kind of stuff). Besides just because it happened at VOTE2 doesn't mean it would happen if they were both healthy. After all Naruto tripped on a rock at VOTE2. lol. Also, Naruto had some Kurama help, not really sure if that counts as base mode.

Sasuke's speed doesn't really change. So if they were both healthy, Naruto would need at the very least SM to sense base sasuke's movements(reacting to them is a completely different story).
Er... I don't think I explained it right. Sasuke is faster than Naruto in base, but Naruto can react to his This was the very first scan that Kishimoto showed before their fight even started.

They were both weakened (and tired) mainly after their stalemate in the Avatar battle. Anyway, the entire argument falls on the fact that they are both equally weakened. You can't disprove this. Even Kurama states that Naruto should be gradually more tired because of how long he was fighting in the War, and Sasuke boosted himself up with Bijuu chakra. The Manga goes out of it's way to show that both NARUTO and SASUKE were on the floor out of breath, equally.

So no. The results wouldn't change.
 
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Er... I don't think I explained it right. Sasuke is faster than Naruto in base, but Naruto can react to his This was the very first scan that Kishimoto showed before their fight even started.

They were both weakened (and tired) mainly after their stalemate in the Avatar battle. Anyway, the entire argument falls on the fact that they are both equally weakened. You can't disprove this. Even Kurama states that Naruto should be gradually more tired because of how long he was fighting in the War, and Sasuke boosted himself up with Bijuu chakra. The Manga goes out of it's way to show that both NARUTO and SASUKE were on the floor out of breath, equally.

So no. The results wouldn't change.
I think the scenario also matters. Sasuke covered the distance between his statue and Naruto's statue in the same time Naruto could pull his hand up to block a basically straightforward attack. In a close range taijutsu only battle, I don't see him keeping up. Do you see him being able to keep up with Kinshiki in base mode(boruto movie beginning battle)?
 

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I think the scenario also matters. Sasuke covered the distance between his statue and Naruto's statue in the same time Naruto could pull his hand up to block a basically straightforward attack. In a close range taijutsu only battle, I don't see him keeping up. Do you see him being able to keep up with Kinshiki in base mode(boruto movie beginning battle)?
That's what I just said though... Sasuke is faster than Naruto, hence, Sasuke can move between distances faster than he can (in base), but, Naruto can react to his speed all the same.

Point being that scan.

No, Hokage Naruto can't match Base Sasuke in speed. I was only talking about VoTE2. Everything beyond that is null.
 

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=lndra;20136222]Sasuke boosted himself up with Bijuu chakra.
he boosted his ps with bijjus chakra. non of the chakra touched him so the bijju chakra is irrelevant when referring to his physical state during their cqc scuffle.
 

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That's what I just said though... Sasuke is faster than Naruto, hence, Sasuke can move between distances faster than he can (in base), but, Naruto can react to his speed all the same.

Point being that scan.

No, Hokage Naruto can't match Base Sasuke in speed. I was only talking about VoTE2. Everything beyond that is null.
Ah. thought thought your statement extended to the current period. lol.
 

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Sasuke fails so much :/
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