Base Killer Bee vs 3T Itachi
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3T Itachi w/ Sasukes Kusanagi blade, because I don't want this taking too long. Go make the thread. Shots on deck. Call your h0es, your boys, and whoever you fking with. I got the henny, so make your first move.
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Lol Itachi can't overpower a brute like Bee. Straight strategies utilizing Itachi's clearly superior skillset.
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7 Sword Dance wasn't doing anything how is it pressure when you couldn't even land one solid blow or graze on your opponent? He couldn't even Hit itachi in his blind spot while he was confronting Naruto, Itachi intention was to get hit the whole time and being captured from warning Bee he's behind him and not looking into his eyes.
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Bee's reaction speed is superior, but that's about it. Otherwise, Itachi would be able to utilize his movement set to overcome this advantage and counteract. Bee won't be able to physically react imo.
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Lmao, but wait... Wasn't Bee supposed to be faster, with better CQC skills and reaction? So what can a fake Kusanagi blade do then? I said from the jump that Itachi lacks ways of putting down Bee. Talk about switching, lmfao. I knew you didn't believe in your own bullshit. It's okay though, Itachi tends to have that affect on people.
Screw it then! No Kusanagi, we ain't scared out here.
This niguh!!! lmao Man you aint talking bout it..Lmao, but wait... Wasn't Bee supposed to be faster, with better CQC skills and reaction? So what can a fake Kusanagi blade do then? I said from the jump that Itachi lacks ways of putting down Bee. Talk about switching, lmfao. I knew you didn't believe in your own bullshit. It's okay though, Itachi tends to have that affect on people.
Screw it then! No Kusanagi, we ain't scared out here.
B takes this fight.
- Samehada slaps away chances of putting B in a Genjutsu.
- Sword dance leaves Itachi on the defensive like last time. B as a child could take on multiple adults with this technique and we saw how Itachi evaded when it eventually came out.
- People speak about what Itachi did to B and Naruto at the same time but yet don't speak about the fact that he couldn't do the same when faced with B alone. Instead he evaded and jumped on Nagato's dog.
- B has immense durability and was also skilled enough to take Taka as a whole in his Base state showing how proficient he is in the art.
- Stamina wise B trumps Itachi.
- Immense strength since childhood shown with how he could keep up with Ay's double lariat.
- From a young age could react to Minato's striking speed to protect Ay
B wins.
- Samehada slaps away chances of putting B in a Genjutsu.
- Sword dance leaves Itachi on the defensive like last time. B as a child could take on multiple adults with this technique and we saw how Itachi evaded when it eventually came out.
- People speak about what Itachi did to B and Naruto at the same time but yet don't speak about the fact that he couldn't do the same when faced with B alone. Instead he evaded and jumped on Nagato's dog.
- B has immense durability and was also skilled enough to take Taka as a whole in his Base state showing how proficient he is in the art.
- Stamina wise B trumps Itachi.
- Immense strength since childhood shown with how he could keep up with Ay's double lariat.
- From a young age could react to Minato's striking speed to protect Ay
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B wins.
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You got nothing but pump fakes! You know deep down Bee ain't messing with Itachi, just admit it!
Yeah I know. My point with that is 7 swords dance is the brunt of his CQC; that's what makes him dangerous, so when people say he was juggling both Naruto and Bee as if he's better than both of them at Taijutsu is simply false. We saw that as soon as Bee used his dance. Firing Katons does nothing; they're easily dodged by Bee or quite simply, absorbed by Samehada. Again, while he was getting outdid in CQC by Kisame that was without using his dance; He miscalculated and lacked knowledge on his chakra absorbing prowess so getting close to Kisame is a bad idea due to matchup. He can't track his Shunshin but he can sure as hell react to it. Itachi isn't blitzing anybody here, not when we use his feats against Nagato and Minato.
@Hagoromo this response applies to you as well.
I see Itachi running all day and exhausting himself with Ninjutsu.
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Agreed.
Not to mention, how does B getting trumped by Kisame equate to him getting trumped by Itachi? Kisame took on the likes of Base Gai who is well known for his close combat prowess. Kisame was simply a bad match for Killer B and what's funny is Samehada itself reacted to V1 B with 7 tails worth of chakra(Bottom left
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) . Something B now has in his arsenal so I wonder what Itachi has that would actually make B lose when:- Samehada can react to him and absorb his attacks
- B can track him as when Itachi went behind him, B stated "I know" with no surprise mark or anything showing that he did know and attacked back forcing Itachi to seemingly block
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- Killer B also has ink clones that can use Hachibi's tentacles and can engage Itachi's clones.
- Explosive clones that can easily be evaded like how Kakashi evaded it in part 1. Not to mention B's durability?
Killer B wins.
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You're stating this as if the 7 swords dance boosts his physical capabilities. It doesn't. It's literally Bee using the same movement/striking speed that Itachi shits on with his very own, with the sole difference of moving in an unorthodox manner with 7 swords. Yes, it is what makes him especially dangerous in CQC... I understand that. The fact is, it accomplishes little to nothing here. Itachi was not entirely in control of his body, yet gracefully parried several hits away with a KUNAI, before easily retreating. His movements are so much faster then Bee, that I honestly don't understand how someone who reads the manga can possibly even attempt at stating that Bee ever lands a hit.The purpose of giant katons are to force Bee to ditch the 7 swords dance and counter accordingly, which leads for an an shunshin blitz that Bee can't track. If Bee can't track Itachi, then how is he going to react properly? In the VIZ translation, Itachi had to literally tell Bee that he was right behind him, and Bee replied as if he had no idea.
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That means that Bee was never going to react, otherwise sharingan precog would of picked up on it, and there would of been no need for Itachi to warn him, since he would of saw Bee's muscle movements about to react.
Bee got outdid by Kisame in CQC, and would of got outdid by him again if he attempted the 7 swords dance. That is one ninja that would physically shit all over the whole manuever with superior strength, body movements, durability, and healing.
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Please remember that not once did I say Itachi gets hit by his 7 swords dance. Not once. I was simply referring to his superiority in CQC, that's all, and you seem to agree on that front due to acknowledging his eventual retreat. Whether he's in control of his body wouldn't change that situation in the slightest, he'd still have to retreat due to the sheer dexterity of the technique. But anyways, we both agree that Itachi isn't getting hit by it so lets move on.
Those Ninjutsu do nothing, again. Bee took a full on
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and was only momentarily stunned. He can also utilise his ink clones which he can undoubtedly use in numbers in order to get in the way and force Itachi to use more jutsu, expending his energy and eventually succumbing to fatigue, allowing Bee to swoop in.As for tracking him, you seem to think not having eyes on him simply meant he can't keep up. Not sure how once would come to this conclusion when he reacted to Minato teleporting behind him, but yeah. You say how can Bee properly react if he cannot track him. The same way he reacted to Nagato's blind side [
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] despite being blasted by a high powered Shinra Tensei (which he once again tanked in base, showing no physical fragilities after that). Being thrown off and blindsided is nothing new to Bee. These two feats are greater than those which you presented. In addition, Bee showed zero indication of surprise. In most translation I've read he says something along the lines of "I'm on it!" or "Got it". Normally a surprise indication is given like "?!" when somebody is blitzed or beaten in a specific exchange, but not Bee. Of course Itachi's gonna warn him... you must remember he has no idea on Bee and his abilities, and he was mentally in control, so why wouldn't he warn him instead of taking chances and assuming Bee can react accordingly? His feats say he can. I'd like to see this Viz btw, or if you could provide the full quote.I disagree, but that's irrelevant.
How does it even sound right that B cannot react properly to Itachi? How? Someone who anticipated and reacted accordingly to the extent where Minato praised his Killer movements and this was over 15 years ago when he was a young one. Someone who could react to Minato before he could slash Ay..Someone who could intercept Ay before he could punch Naruto(Even Naruto as well not completing his Jutsu) despite the fair distance as well. Someone capable of catching Ay again before he could move to punch Naruto and even surprising him with a Lariat the first time.
Wow Just because he said "On it" and he wasn't surprised at all as there's usually a surprise factor indicated to us such as "!!" or "!?". Damn.
Wow Just because he said "On it" and he wasn't surprised at all as there's usually a surprise factor indicated to us such as "!!" or "!?". Damn.
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Okay... So how do you conclude that Bee is better in CQC, while agreeing with the notion that Bee can't even hit Itachi. Never did I imply that Itachi's only option in this scenerio was to retreat, so no we are not in an agreement. It is a viable option, but I don't see it as his only resort. Uhh, no one else understands your physical capabilities better then yourself. So having control of his own body does in fact make a difference, actually.
So what exactly are we implying here? That Bee simply tanks every ninjutsu Itachi throws at him? I surely hope not. I said from the jump that Itachi's only task would be to overcome Bee's durability, but that won't be much of a task if he's going to simply attempt at tanking everything. Sasuke took on a raiton/suiton combo as well (from Darui), and wasn't immobilized. This is most likely due to the fact that they're raiton users. Ink clones can be taken out with shurikenjutsu.
Reacting to a weakened and not so mobile Nagato is not impressive, especially given what Itachi's shunshin did to Nagato and his shared vision. Horrible comparison. And you're saying that Bee reacted to Minato teleporting behind him, as if we know for a solid fact that Bee never saw or knew of the tag on his tenticle. That is a baseless claim, and his lack of proper reaction in other scenarios against slower attacks doesn't add up with that "feat". It it based on the belief that Bee verbally said that
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of Itachi being behind him. That isn't the VIZ translation however, which I already provided you with in my previous response. I'll ask around for the full scan, because I couldn't find it. The fact that Bee's response was "Got it!", and didn't react until after the fact, indicates to me that he had no idea. Again... Itachi wouldn't be assuming. With
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, he would know whether or not Bee was about to react or not. Itachi saw that he wasn't, which is why he felt the need to warn him. He didn't warn Bee and Naruto on the first shunshin, despite not knowing their capabilities, so that isn't a valid excuse. The first time Bee failed to track Itachi's shunshin, he was literally stairing right at him (
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). So I don't see why it is hard to believe he couldn't track him the second time.Edit: Heres the VIZ scans.
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