I always read about people stating that admirals are on par with yonkou. I don’t think this is true. The balance of power is between justice and lawless. Two balance not the three.
In other words the marines need the shikibukai and hope the yonkou don’t team up justso the balance is secure. If an admiral was on par with a yonkou then why would they need the shikibukai. Why not go full assault on yonkou?
A few members in this base made a headcanon rule that Admirals are on par with Yonkous. It's clearly not true otherwise why is Shanks ending the war for and why couldn't all 3 of them kill Whitebeard?
Balance of power is Yonkou vs Admirals and Warlords to make it even.
your misunderstanding: the Yonko aren't jsut ''the yonko'', they have fleets, to rival the marine fleets, they have lower commanders to rival vice admirals, they have their top commanders to rival the sichibukai and they are the 4 yonko to rival the admirals
A few members in this base made a headcanon rule that Admirals are on par with Yonkous. It's clearly not true otherwise why is Shanks ending the war for and why couldn't all 3 of them kill Whitebeard?
Balance of power is Yonkou vs Admirals and Warlords to make it even.
the Marines ahd more than enough power lrftover to battle the red hair pirates, Shanks would have lost if Sengoku decided to wage war on his crew then and there
why couldnt all 3 kill wb? why couldnt wb kill any of them? Akainu did just fine against WB and after WB died no one from WB's crew stood a chance against Akainu. WB pirates were very badly outmatched at MF, the war against WB ended with Garp, Sengoku, Aokiji and Kizaru basically unscathed and Akainu a bit shaken but he still pished all the WB pirates back. Yes BB killed WB but that was just a small final stroke to finish him off, he was waiting for the perfect moment where WB had already lost.
WB might be a badass and an awesome character but it was clear that one Yonko was very badly outmatched by the Marines, WG not even included
''but why not go destroy the yonko if they could?'' because htey are not stupid, there is no guarantee they would win for one, they would have to fight on enemy territory, not their own and they would lose most of it's power, it makes very little sense to just go after the Yonko, there would have to be a significant reason for that, something which would threaten the existence of the WG
Akainu’s performance against one of the yonko or more that enough to see that admirals are on par with the yonko. I would even say that the admirals are superior to the yonko in general. I see Akainu as the strongest character right now. He’s superior to every yonko.
Ehh, we've seen people like jack and katakuri who'd be able to fight admirals imo. Other than Blackbeard, most of the yonkou crew (ohh, and Possibly shanks) have quantity over quality. Lkke whitebeards commanders were elites and the other people were just regular guys with a crest. In Bigmoms the sweet commanders are quality fighters and because of the crews size, there are a few more exceptional people but 90% of her crew are fodder in a yonko v admiral battle.
Akainu’s performance against one of the yonko or more that enough to see that admirals are on par with the yonko. I would even say that the admirals are superior to the yonko in general. I see Akainu as the strongest character right now. He’s superior to every yonko.
Ehh, we've seen people like jack and katakuri who'd be able to fight admirals imo. Other than Blackbeard, most of the yonkou crew (ohh, and Possibly shanks) have quantity over quality. Lkke whitebeards commanders were elites and the other people were just regular guys with a crest. In Bigmoms the sweet commanders are quality fighters and because of the crews size, there are a few more exceptional people but 90% of her crew are fodder in a yonko v admiral battle.
I didn't say every emperor crew had people who could fight Admirals, the two I named were imo the ones who could hold their own against an admiral. Other than The light admiral, the others strength is simply in their devil fruit power.
whitebeard literally picked him up and threw him across the map and proceeded to make akainu look like a second tier fighter. did you not read/watch any of this?
One yonko crew with allies with extra back up got massacred with no one beaten on the marines' side except for 2 VAs who charged WB. Not even the full forces of the marines(nor Garp or Sengoku stepping in) nor all 7 warlords(Hancock did more harm than help) was needed.....even with BB running amok, it was still going to be a massacre with BB dying as well.
All 4 of the yonkos, their crews and allies are on par with the full forces of the marines with the shichibukai. One yonko force would get destroyed but it would cause a power vaccum and leave the WG vulnerable to any other yonko ambush.
One yonko crew with allies with extra back up got massacred with no one beaten on the marines' side except for 2 VAs who charged WB. Not even the full forces of the marines(nor Garp or Sengoku stepping in) nor all 7 warlords(Hancock did more harm than help) was needed.....even with BB running amok, it was still going to be a massacre with BB dying as well.
All 4 of the yonkos, their crews and allies are on par with the full forces of the marines with the shichibukai. One yonko force would get destroyed but it would cause a power vaccum and leave the WG vulnerable to any other yonko ambush.
Not to mention they're chronologically stronger.
Luffy is supposed to start a war after defeating the Yonko and finding the One Piece. It's definitely not against ghosts.
the Marines ahd more than enough power lrftover to battle the red hair pirates, Shanks would have lost if Sengoku decided to wage war on his crew then and there
why couldnt wb kill any of them? Akainu did just fine against WB and after WB died no one from WB's crew stood a chance against Akainu. WB pirates were very badly outmatched at MF, the war against WB ended with Garp, Sengoku, Aokiji and Kizaru basically unscathed and Akainu a bit shaken but he still pished all the WB pirates back. Yes BB killed WB but that was just a small final stroke to finish him off, he was waiting for the perfect moment where WB had already lost.
WB died because BB killed him and hil illness was what prevented him from using full potential. The only ones that stood a chance against the admirals was Marco, Jozu and Vista which is to be expected because they're the only ones strong enough but I'm talking about a Yonkou not his entire crew.
Sengoku did not leave unscathed, Blackbeard did a number on him:
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Point being is that that Fleet Admiral Sengoku and Admiral Akainu the pro absolute justice people (sengoku not so much) were the ones that sustained heavy damage. Kizaru laid back and shot some lasers off a distance without engaging anyone and Kuzan sustained minor damage from Jozu after he blitzed him.
The only reason why they were outmatched is because of the Warlords that were on their side. They even sent in a parade of pacafisa to aid them. You think the marines would win if the warlords and Px weren't there? It was 1 yonkou pirate that faced off against the whole naval core and warlords. It took all of them let alone 2 yonkous. He keep disregarding the primary factor here.
WB might be a badass and an awesome character but it was clear that one Yonko was very badly outmatched by the Marines, WG not even included
Uh no. Check the people who were helping the WG. Look at the condition that WB was in when he entered the war, even Crocodile said that he was weak. Replace WB with someone in their prime like Kaidou or Shanks and you'd be singing a different tone by now.
''but why not go destroy the yonko if they could?'' because htey are not stupid, there is no guarantee they would win for one, they would have to fight on enemy territory, not their own and they would lose most of it's power, it makes very little sense to just go after the Yonko, there would have to be a significant reason for that, something which would threaten the existence of the WG
If they were badly outmatched then why wouldn't it be a guarantee win?
So I guess they are stupid considering that the tried to kill WB during the war, especially Akainu. WB died by someone else's hand anyways so what you're saying is invalid.
The whole point of the war is to kill the enemy in battle, so why are you taking the word "war" definition so lightly for? They tried to kill it, period.
I also think you're missing the point here too @Olorin. You're whole response is that Whitebeard gets taken out by the World Govt. This thread isn't about Yonkou vs the World Govt. this thread is about a Yonkou being way more powerful than a single Admiral. An admiral doesn't make up the whole entire WG.
If you take away the commodore, captains, rear admiral, vice captains, the pacifista, and the warlords and just left the admirals there. Only three of them against the WB pirates.
You telling me that they're gonna win? Be true to yourself.
Just 3 admirals beat any yonko crew you dumb twa t no yonko crew is handling people who can fight fight 11 days and change whole islands to their element. The crew is almost a none factor, they can't even do anything to hurt the admirals. Just boom and melt them all
imo the Admiral and Shichibukai and all equals one Yonkou crew. If all 4 Yonkou and their fleets teamed up the Admirals and Shichibukai wouldn't win imo, therefore to say they rival the entire yonkou system is a bit of an exaggeration, yes they rival one fleet at a time but I don't think you can say they rival the systems because if the two clashed full force I don't see the Marines winning.
