Backing up "Kakashi stopping 5 TBB" theory

[Guardian of the Rain]

I'm defending Hokage Sharingan Kakashi because he was unnecessarily flamed. He was right on some points, but wrong on others.
Kakashi has obviously increased his chakra/stamina levels and his use of Kamui currently in the manga. As long as Kakashi focuses on the center of his target, it should be successfully and quickly teleported, regardless of the size. Kakashi was very much able to Kamui the tailed beasts' combined tailed beast bomb while they were charging, as seen here:

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But, yes I agree with you guys that trolled on Hokage Sharingan Kakashi about Kakashi being able to Kamui the seperate 5 tailed beast bombs.

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There's no way in hell Kakashi could've stopped that^

 

[Commander Axe]

he could have probably, but would've died.

 

[Seraphiel]

There's really no way to tell if he could have.

 

[zombiejesus]

he probably could if they were combined into one i agree and i agree that people were hard on the new guy too

also the eigth gate must be very op if gai thought he could stop those

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

he could have probably, but would've died.

Perhaps. But if he were fresh with chakra, he would've survived. It's just that he already fought the Seven Swordsmen and the V2 jinchuriki, so if he would've used Kamui on those TBB's, it would've been bad for him

 

[Bogard]

Ofc he could have kamui'd the TBB on your first pic cuz it's just one(even if it's more powerful it doesn't matter) coming from one direction, but the problem is on the second pic. While i think Kakashi could maybe teleport 3TBB(coming from forward) i don't see him teleporting all of them(even if i'd have liked^^) cuz it's theoritically impossible for him to cover all his angles. The other factor is that Gai is there. Even if it was possible somehow to save himself, i don't see him saving Gai, and it's actually what he wanted to do. That's why he says to Gai to calm down. He wanted to protect him

 

[immortal sage]

hmm i think he could have been able to stop a couple of tbb but ther is no way kakashi can stop the relly big one if he had more chakra then hell yea but the thing is bigger than all the bijju he wouldnt be able to wrap kamue over such a large area

 

[Hokage Sharingan Kakashi]

I'm defending Hokage Sharingan Kakashi because he was unnecessarily flamed. He was right on some points, but wrong on others.
Kakashi has obviously increased his chakra/stamina levels and his use of Kamui currently in the manga. As long as Kakashi focuses on the center of his target, it should be successfully and quickly teleported, regardless of the size. Kakashi was very much able to Kamui the tailed beasts' combined tailed beast bomb while they were charging, as seen here:

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But, yes I agree with you guys that trolled on Hokage Sharingan Kakashi about Kakashi being able to Kamui the seperate 5 tailed beast bombs.

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There's no way in hell Kakashi could've stopped that^

:sy: Jesus. . . . . . . Your so right on that.
Why the heck didn't I think of it like that?!
ItachiLeeHatake Thanks a mill man.
Lol I came close I guess..

 

[Commander Axe]

Perhaps. But if he were fresh with chakra, he would've survived. It's just that he already fought the Seven Swordsmen and the V2 jinchuriki, so if he would've used Kamui on those TBB's, it would've been bad for him

yea, and people say kakashi has low chakra, i dont think so really, to fight for so long against such powerful enemies and still have enough chakra to warp 5 TBB is pretty high chakra in my book.

 

[Naruto9001]

You had to make a thread about it? You know you could have just posted this on the original thread.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

one would assume that the size of the object being warped would be proportionate to the amount of chakra used to warp it, at least that was my understanding, but youre saying that regardless of size if kamui is focused on the center of said object it should take relatively the same amount of chakra?

just trying to understand what youre saying

 

[Yveltal]

How nice of you

 

[Zavage10]

It seem like they both could've stopped the attack but, they would surely die afterwards.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

yea, and people say kakashi has low chakra, i dont think so really, to fight for so long against such powerful enemies and still have enough chakra to warp 5 TBB is pretty high chakra in my book.

Yup, people troll on Kakashi for no good reason. He's my #1 fav character, but at least I'm realistic, I know he couldn't have stopped those 5 TBB's

:sy: Jesus. . . . . . . Your so right on that.
Why the heck didn't I think of it like that?!
ItachiLeeHatake Thanks a mill man.
Lol I came close I guess..

Haha np man. I wasn't gonna let them gang up on you like that

hmm i think he could have been able to stop a couple of tbb but ther is no way kakashi can stop the relly big one if he had more chakra then hell yea but the thing is bigger than all the bijju he wouldnt be able to wrap kamue over such a large area

Yeah, maybe he could've stopped 1, 2, maybe 3. But he would've died. And dude, it doesn't matter if it's huge. As long as he focuses on the center of the sphere, it will take him less chakra to suck in the entire TBB because by starting in the middle, Kamui will suck in the surrounding with ease

Ofc he could have kamui'd the TBB on your first pic cuz it's just one(even if it's more powerful it doesn't matter) coming from one direction, but the problem is on the second pic. While i think Kakashi could maybe teleport 3TBB(coming from forward) i don't see him teleporting all of them(even if i'd have liked^^) cuz it's theoritically impossible for him to cover all his angles. The other factor is that Gai is there. Even if it was possible somehow to save himself, i don't see him saving Gai, and it's actually what he wanted to do. That's why he says to Gai to calm down. He wanted to protect him

Agreed except the bold, Gai could've just went 7th Gate and grabbed Kakashi and then dipped the f*** outta there.

 

[Blaze Release]

Kakashi teleporting that isnt happening, what he said shouldnt be taken seriously. If was out of desperation. Second of all kakashi's stamina hasnt increased but rather he has increased his chakra control, this is evident in his ability to use more techniques than before but also has shown more genjutsu feat although still outside battle feat. Kakashi chakra has remained constant at a 3 in all 3 databooks therefore its far fetched to say his chakra levels has suddenly increased.

Anyway if you look at the size of the tbb in relation to the tailed beasts, it makes them look like insects and i need not tell you how big those tailed beasts are, therefore the size of the tbb mustve been something else.

I dont believe kakashi can kamui a human, let alone a tailed beast. Let alone a tbb that makes tailed beasts look like insects.

Whether full chakra or low chakra he will not only be able to kamui it, he would surely die from chakra exhaustion

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

How nice of you

That bullying s*** isn't coolxd

one would assume that the size of the object being warped would be proportionate to the amount of chakra used to warp it, at least that was my understanding, but youre saying that regardless of size if kamui is focused on the center of said object it should take relatively the same amount of chakra?

just trying to understand what youre saying

Yup, that's basically what I'm saying. But the way you described it sounds much better

well if he turned on his mankegyo maybe he was confident he could have maybe this was a way of kishi telling us to STOP saying kakashi has low stamina >.> but still let naruto show off his new powers

LOL exactly. Naruto always has to take the glory

Kakashi teleporting that isnt happening, what he said shouldnt be taken seriously. If was out of desperation. Second of all kakashi's stamina hasnt increased but rather he has increased his chakra control, this is evident in his ability to use more techniques than before but also has shown more genjutsu feat although still outside battle feat. Kakashi chakra has remained constant at a 3 in all 3 databooks therefore its far fetched to say his chakra levels has suddenly increased.

Anyway if you look at the size of the tbb in relation to the tailed beasts, it makes them look like insects and i need not tell you how big those tailed beasts are, therefore the size of the tbb mustve been something else.

I dont believe kakashi can kamui a human, let alone a tailed beast. Let alone a tbb that makes tailed beasts look like insects.

Whether full chakra or low chakra he will not only be able to kamui it, he would surely die from chakra exhaustion

Wow, I'm shocked to hear this coming from you man. You're usually completely logical, but your post is nonsense dude, especially the bold:sy:

 

[Blaze Release]

Wow, I'm shocked to hear this coming from you man. You're usually completely logical, but your post is nonsense dude, especially the bold:sy:

Post is nonsense?, think its you who cannot grasp what im trying to say. Also just because kakashi can teleport a susano arrow doesnt mean he can teleport a human being, its a bit more complicated than that

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

one would assume that the size of the object being warped would be proportionate to the amount of chakra used to warp it, at least that was my understanding, but youre saying that regardless of size if kamui is focused on the center of said object it should take relatively the same amount of chakra?

just trying to understand what youre saying

This, the bigger the object the more chakra that would be consumed. That is what I believe anyway, so to that combined one I think he still would of died because it would use up all his chakra.

 

[Bogard]

The problem is not the size of what Kakashi teleport, but "what" he teleports. It's not that he can't teleport human. It's that humans could react, could protect themselves, could resist. TBB are only constituate of chakra and can't resist when they are launched. It will happen the same way as Deidara explosives clay. It was even bigger than human(i don't even know by how much), but it was teleported it an instant. So the big deal for Kamui is not the size like people think sometimes, but it depends on the target, if it's capable to defend itself, resist or something like that. If it's not capable of that, normally there would be no problem. TBB are no humans, they can't live, they can't even know where they are going they are only objects. Teleporting objects will be much more easier for Kakashi than teleporting humans

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Post is nonsense?, think its you who cannot grasp what im trying to say. Also just because kakashi can teleport a susano arrow doesnt mean he can teleport a human being, its a bit more complicated than that

Read it again to confirm it. So, you're saying whatever the databook says is correct and final? Also, size isn't at all the biggest factor in using Kamui. Speed is much more of a nuisance for Kamui to successfully work. Like I said, Kakashi would just have to focus on the center of the sphere while the TB's where charging, it would suck in the rest of the TBB from the center and out. You said yourself that Kakashi now has better chakra control, which means better Kamui control