Awkward things/Criticisms concerning chapter 700

The most awkward thing in the chapter?

  • Shino as a school teacher

    Votes: 5 17.9%
  • Sarada resembling Karin

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • Sarada's name

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • Overweight Anko

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • Poorly aged Temari and Kankurou

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • Chouji and Karui a couple

    Votes: 16 57.1%
  • Mei not being married

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • team Konohamaru not really changed

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • Iruka badly aged

    Votes: 8 28.6%
  • Kurotsuchi Tsuchikage rather than Kitsuchi

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • The straw hat logo on Naruto's monument

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • Sasuke, the bijuus and the alliance not being in the juubi mural

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 25.0%
  • Nothing

    Votes: 1 3.6%

  • Total voters
    28
  • Poll closed .

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I'm surprised chouchou didn't make the list.

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I actually thought that's a chocolate created by something like marginbuu from dbz XD

Ot: I love garra's new hairstyle :cool:
 

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I'm surprised chouchou didn't make the list.

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What's wrong with her other than her taking after her father more than her mother when it comes to food? She is probably going to be an easy going but nice kid like her father and seeing food is kind of reserved energy source for them to be used in time of need and that they can fly even when fully developed, it's not all bad.
 

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Agreed with 7

But that wasn't only in ch700. Mei always complains from guys.

Good list.

I wish Kishi showed Naruto's actual inauguration ceremony. We waited so long to see the moment, it would've been nice to see him before the crowd being "crowned" hokage...surrounded by all his friends...standing before a cheering crowd....we saw Tsuande's inauguration but not Naruto's? Come on Kishi.

I was really disappointed by the lack of resolution with Orochimaru and Kabuto. I mean, they've been with us since day 1 of the series. It would've been nice to find out what they did with themselves after the war.

I also find it lame that Kishi just threw away Taka. I mean, they were very loyal to Sasuke even though he didn't deserve their loyalty. Kishi tried to shove the importance of bonds down our throats, but only team 7's bond matters apparently. Nevermind that Karin and Juugo saved Sasuke's life multiple times and Suigetsu sacrificed himself for the team against Killer Bee and he just threw them away. I hope we see Sasuke apologize to them in a filler or something. If he has truly changed, that has to be weighing on his conscience.

I feel like Sarada's design is a knod to Karin, in a way. Also Sakura's lip circle. Karin is was the only female I remember seeing with that lip circle which I guess is supposed to indicate glossy lips :rolleyes:...maybe Kishi preferred Karin for Sasuke in his head but the editors pressured him to go with SS to appease the fans since he was going with NH....and also to set the stage for part 3.....so he gave Sarada glasses and Karin's mannerisms and Sakura glossy lips as a nod to her. I'onno.

As for Anko's weight gain....shiiit...after all she has been through she's probably just happy to be alive and enjoying her dumplings. Can you blame her? LOL

Good observations with Karin and Sakura lols. Yes, I meant to add in Orochimaru, Kabuto and Taka but forgot. Perhaps Kishimoto plans to bring them back in the mini-series, though he sin;t the one writing it lols.

And yes, my belief is that the original shippings were going to be Naruto and Sakura, Sasuke and Karin and Hinata and Kiba, but that Jump forced Kishimoto to go with the majority of the fans' wishes. Lol god they're such dickheads.

Kishimoto decided the ending before he made taka (for those who think kishi was forced to replace karin with sakura -_-)

Kishimito said he didn't want to continue with taka but his editor ordered him to do it .


Kishimoto: "first character i made was naruto then sasuke and sakura"
Sasuke and sakura were created together . Sasuke was inspired from sarutobi sasuke manga
Sarutobi sasuke love interest is called sakura .

Sasusaku were decided from the moment they were created. Plus they had a history and moments together unlike sasuke X any girl.


So kishimoto original chapter draft have karin a side character instead of the main character sakura because her lip glossed ?Really?
 

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Agreed with 7

But that wasn't only in ch700. Mei always complains from guys.





Kishimoto decided the ending before he made taka (for those who think kishi was forced to replace karin with sakura -_-)

Kishimito said he didn't want to continue with taka but his editor ordered him to do it .


Kishimoto: "first character i made was naruto then sasuke and sakura"
Sasuke and sakura were created together . Sasuke was inspired from sarutobi sasuke manga
Sarutobi sasuke love interest is called sakura .

Sasusaku were decided from the moment they were created. Plus they had a history and moments together unlike sasuke X any girl.


So kishimoto original chapter draft have karin a side character instead of the main character sakura because her lip glossed ?Really?

lol True.


Sakura @ .22 ..Japanese girls stalk a lot.. :|

All the episodes available seem to be in Arabic only.

About Taka I guess editors wanted one more set just in case they could get the manga extended for a longer time. Leave a set of character for later use just in case. KIshi seemed to be tired though and didn't really put them to much use aside for side characters for plot purpose or comic relief.

Frankly I don't like his editors much, They didn't let him put Tsunade/ Pain fight and brought Naruto back in much earlier cutting all screen time for her.
 
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lol True.


Sakura @ .22 ..Japanese girls stalk a lot.. :|

All the episodes available seem to be in Arabic only.


Dat Lawd Sasky inspiration :cool:
 

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Number 11 is so stupid. Kishimoto and Oda are actually friends in real life and consider each other rivals so if Kishimoto wanted to shout out One Piece in HIS manga then he can ****ing do it as Oda shouted out to Naruto the week One Piece came out as well.
 

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11. In the final panel with with Naruto's Hokage monument, I disliked that Kishimoto just HAD to put the straw hat logo on his forehead, as if saying he was subservient to Oda. It was kind of cringeworthy because I wanted the moment to be complete nostalgia and for nothing to be in my head other than a flash through the series, not the one piece characters. -_- And what exactly makes Oda so much better than everyone else? Oh yes, sales! That's all that matters! I'll bet you a million bucks Jump made him do it lols.

  • Inb4 Kishi and Oda had been in good terms for the past few years. Before, they weren't that great. This year had it witnessed that Kishi went for a visit to the place where Oda was hospitalized and Oda appreciated it.
  • While in previous author comment in WSJ, Oda had:
    = regarded Kishi as friend + rival,
    = criticised WSJ over the issue on the absence of completed series front cover for the week,
    = in the special comment section for Naruto's new movie 2015 (about Bolt movie), Oda stated he's looking forward to it.
It was a mindless and funny action from JUMP if they had to force Kishi to put some message in return of Oda's tribute to Naruto in the manga.

If that's the case then, which making you feel disappointed because the logo ruined the nostalgic emo, we OP fans may feel frustrated a little because we've been waiting for the cover story of Jinbei that keeps on featuring mysteriously, only to be caught off-guard by a full One Piece cover page Oda had drawn as a homage for Naruto on that particular week :rolleyes:
Nevermind. To each their own. Sorry about that.

Agree to the rest of the points. Except about Oda.
 

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lol True.


Sakura @ .22 ..Japanese girls stalk a lot.. :|

All the episodes available seem to be in Arabic only.

what a coincident lol
About Taka I guess editors wanted one more set just in case they could get the manga extended for a longer time. Leave a set of character for later use just in case. KIshi seemed to be tired though and didn't really put them to much use aside for side characters for plot purpose or comic relief.

exactly .
Frankly I don't like his editors much, They didn't let him put Tsunade/ Pain fight and brought Naruto back in much earlier cutting all screen time for her.

Me too. That would have been a very interesting to see even if tsunade lose i wouod like to see the hokage fight for her village .
 

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  • Inb4 Kishi and Oda had been in good terms for the past few years. Before, they weren't that great.


  • Doesn't surprise me considering how much jump rides...well, you get the idea.

    This year had it witnessed that Kishi went for a visit to the place where Oda was hospitalized and Oda appreciated it.

    Figures Kishimoto would be the one to settle things. Lols.

    While in previous author comment in WSJ, Oda had:
    = regarded Kishi as friend + rival,

    See how full of himself Oda is? Just saying. Lols.

    = criticised WSJ over the issue on the absence of completed series front cover for the week,
    = in the special comment section for Naruto's new movie 2015 (about Bolt movie), Oda stated he's looking forward to it.
    [*]

Well at least he isn't a complete butt, though Oda isn't exactly in the position to NOT being able to criticize jump lols.

It was a mindless and funny action from JUMP if they had to force Kishi to put some message in return of Oda's tribute to Naruto in the manga.

They manipulate most of the manga from behind the scenes, so what would be so surprising about it? Lols.

If that's the case then, which making you feel disappointed because the logo ruined the nostalgic emo, we OP fans may feel frustrated a little because we've been waiting for the cover story of Jinbei that keeps on featuring mysteriously,
only to be caught off-guard by a full One Piece cover page Oda had drawn as a homage for Naruto on that particular week :rolleyes:

You'll get over it. It will come eventually. Naruto only gets one manga ending. :rolleyes: lols. The homage wasn't exactly that great either. Naruto's face wasn't even shown and it wasn't even in the manga pages like the one piece logo was. But i suppose it's better than nothing.

Nevermind. To each their own. Sorry about that.

Sorry about what?

Agree to the rest of the points. Except about Oda.

You're biased towards him. Of course you disagree.
 

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Chapter 700 was just crap in general.
 

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Doesn't surprise me considering how much jump rides...well, you get the idea.

No. You have no valid point to prove how JUMP favour One Piece over Naruto. The weekly ranking is the readers' choices. Both series have fair share of serialising their chapters each week. If you wanna talk about bias, rather than comparing One Piece and Naruto, what'd you say about HxH then? Still alive despite the hiatus. Due to what, exactly? :)

Figures Kishimoto would be the one to settle things. Lols.

You just can't take it to the positive way, isn't it.

See how full of himself Oda is? Just saying. Lols.

Different than us readers, it is an honour for these story creators to regard someone or to be regarded by someone as a rival. It means you're in someone's attention, or you feel the competitiveness in the line of work.

Well at least he isn't a complete butt, though Oda isn't exactly in the position to NOT being able to criticize jump lols.

In a positive way, it shows how a mangaka can't be fully delimited by the editors. Gain a good spot, and with such power, remind the admins about the mistakes as the representative for other fellow mangakas and so on.

They manipulate most of the manga from behind the scenes, so what would be so surprising about it? Lols.

Not surprised, but it was funny. Same goes for your case, you've no idea what's happening behind the scene either. One of the rumours i heard about Naruto was Kishi actually hadn't intended to end the series just yet, but the editors forced him too. Too sad nobody could validate it, so thus the matter you've stated.

You'll get over it. It will come eventually. Naruto only gets one manga ending. :rolleyes: lols. The homage wasn't exactly that great either. Naruto's face wasn't even shown and it wasn't even in the manga pages like the one piece logo was. But i suppose it's better than nothing.

The only problem you care about in the homage is Naruto's face? Ah, i see, you don't really understand how Oda does his art most of the times. Emm... Oda loves to give his readers the chance to interpret things on their own, it has been proved more in the SBS section (a section of Q&A between him and his fans starting 4th One Piece volume till now) where he accepts most readers' interpretations and suggestions, and in certain questions, he leaves it to the readers' assumptions to be fair.

Hence, even the idiot one could guess that's Naruto in the homage page, based on the obvious significant attire, hidden message in the list of menus which stated " ナルトお疲れ様でした" (Naruto, otsukaresama deshita), the redesigned One Piece logo into Naruto's symbols on top of the cover page, Nami wears a one piece dress with full pattern of konohagakure, Naruto and Luffy favourite foods are switched, and the name combination of Nami, Luffy (Ruffi) and Tony Tony Chopper that appeared on the cover which taken as Na Ru To.

And... to compare all these with a single small symbol of Strawhats Jolly Roger... it's just a painted art by Bolt. Showing his rebelliousness since it means 'Freedom' and 'Rebellion'.

Sorry about what?

Since i don't intend to start an argument about this with you nor do i wanna continue more if possible. I apologise in advance.

You're biased towards him. Of course you disagree.

It may look like it in your point of view, but you're being more biased towards Oda rather than me. At least it's hard for me to belittle Kishi in compare with other mangaka, including Oda.

The difference between us is the extent of us reading these both series; Naruto and One Piece. I read them both from top to toe, cover to cover, while you? Have you even read One Piece till the latest chapter? Can't say i'm that much of a biased reader. U_U Why do you hate One Piece that bad...
 

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@ everyone: Let's not make in to OP/Naruto fan war.
 

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Sarada really means salad OP Lol

2 and 9, i'm perfectly ok with the others.
 

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@ everyone: Let's not make in to OP/Naruto fan war.

Don't worry, i've no such intention :) It's just a mere, passing counter post and in that one i tried my best to be as calm as possible. I won't reply to his or to others that would quote me for it after this for the sake of the thread. Forgive me for sounding like one but we're not at each other throat. Just exchanging opinions. Better than making some characters' solo threads all over in the past few weeks.

OT: The most awkward scene for me would be Choji and Karui. I don't mind if Choji is shown to be single, still. Or being paired by an anonymous person. Well... maybe not but yeah.
 
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Don't worry, i've no such intention :) It's just a mere, passing counter post and in that one i tried my best to be as calm as possible.

Why? Were you about to go apeshit on me for criticizing a magazine and a mangaka? Lols.

When did I ever state I hated One Piece by the way? I was talking about Oda lols. Is there really a need to freak out and say "hater! hater! hater!" every time someone criticizes something you enjoy, which I wasn't even doing? Lols. I tell you, One Piece fans are scary. It's like they're brainwashed and either pit bulls waiting for you to stick your hand out to be bitten off or spies made through Jump or Oda propaganda that go off the deep end when the right thing is said. The sad thing is I'm not talking about fanboys, but fans in general lols. Every time I criticize one piece or Oda, I have people screaming at the top of their lungs at me, degrading me, calling me a troll, a retard and acting as though they are a dimension above me, much the same as you came off just now. It's sickening and I'm just about fed up with it.

And by the way, Oda being more free of jump editors than other mangakas doesn't exactly weaken my negative opinion of him, but pretty much exacerbates it further lols.

But don't worry, I won't reply back and make this into a "battlefield" where so many will be killed! Oh wait, this is fiction, not real life. Jeezus..
 
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Chapter 700 was the perfect terrible ending to a terrible manga,not bad at all imo.
 

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Kishimoto decided the ending before he made taka (for those who think kishi was forced to replace karin with sakura -_-)

Kishimito said he didn't want to continue with taka but his editor ordered him to do it .


Kishimoto: "first character i made was naruto then sasuke and sakura"
Sasuke and sakura were created together . Sasuke was inspired from sarutobi sasuke manga
Sarutobi sasuke love interest is called sakura .

Sasusaku were decided from the moment they were created. Plus they had a history and moments together unlike sasuke X any girl.


So kishimoto original chapter draft have karin a side character instead of the main character sakura because her lip glossed ?Really?

Never heard of retcons have you? Lols.

As much as it pains me to say it, you really shouldn't take everything a mangaka says as gospel. They are under JUMPs's pay after all who edit and control virtually everything they do and whom only care about money, as much as the next corporation and magazine lols. Did it ever occur to you that some things he says may be rigged or coached in order to appease the majority of the fandom?
 

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Never heard of retcons have you? Lols.

As much as it pains me to say it, you really shouldn't take everything a mangaka says as gospel. They are under JUMPs's pay after all who edit and control virtually everything they do and whom only care about money, as much as the next corporation and magazine lols. Did it ever occur to you that some things he says may be rigged or coached in order to appease the majority of the fandom?

If you had an actual evidence with what you say then i will consider the idea but when your evidence is lip gloss and glasses then i am going with the guy who made the manga opinion over yours .(especially since ss were obvious from day one until the last chapter. And the only sasuke/anygirl pairing that had romantic moments)

Its like insisting that sasuke was originally supposed to end up with tenten because in the last chapter he had a sword (a tool)in his hand but the editors changed that because the majority are the other pairing fans who would buy the manga.
And of course what ever kishi say about it is just lies to appease to the fandom.
 
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