Aspulls/Bullsh*t on the War saga

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Sakura landing that hit on Kaguya

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Kishi was most likely drunk when he drew that panel.

 

[Guntah]

Anything I don't like is asspull and bullshit.
Anything I like is good writing.

Summed it up.

Well...not really. The only one in my list I have a particular distaste towards is the Nagato one since it gave Itachi fans even more bragging rights for a character with an already ridiculous battle record.

member 1 Aspulls/Bullsh*t on the War saga
Sakura landing that hit on Kaguya

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Well, its legit. Annoying as f*ck since

1. It is not in any way special. Even Konohamaru with a Rasengan could pull that same move off if he caught her by surprise.

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2. It gives Sakura fans a bragging right for the simple fact that we saw a horn being broken...again, not at all a feat, but what the f*ck, right?

Still, it was legit. Forced as f*ck, but legit.

 

[Observer]

teh Tobidara reveal was postponed...

 

[Warlocks]

Kishi was most likely drunk when he drew that panel.

agree lol

 

[123fire]

Black Zetsu defeating Madara by backshanking him.

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Sasuke and Naruto managing to break through the Rikudo's Sword of Nunoboko and soloing god tier Obito.

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Sakura's powerup. Completetly out of nowhere.

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Nagato being stabbed by Itachi with no reaction whatsoever. Not even a Shinra Tensei.

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Sasuke being shanked by Madara held only by Limbo Hengoku without trying to defend himself in any way.

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Anything else to add to the list?

1-Madara didn't know at all that black zetsu would stab him since madara supposedly created BZ himself
2-Naruto and Sasuke weren't alone naruto used konoha 11's help to break Juubito's sword , it was like 13 people against a sword
3-Sakura said she has been storing chakra since 3 years , where's the asspull in that?
4-Nagato was immobile by then , thats why Itachi could pierce him
5-It wasn't even limbo , its a different Rinnegan jutsu that freezes a person , Sasuke couldn't do anything
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[NextGenNinja]

Well...not really. The only one in my list I have a particular distaste towards is the Nagato one since it gave Itachi fans even more bragging rights for a character with an already ridiculous battle record.




Well, its legit. Annoying as f*ck since

1. It is not in any way special. Even Konohamaru with a Rasengan could pull that same move off if he caught her by surprise.

and
2. It gives Sakura fans a bragging right for the simple fact that we saw a horn being broken...again, not at all a feat, but what the f*ck, right?

Still, it was legit. Forced as f*ck, but legit.

Not really legit. How the fuk couldn't kaguya sense nor see sakura with the byakugan? (Don't bring up the blindspot argument that thing is way to small for sakura to hid in) and how could sakura damage kaguya like that could also be pnj. She tanked 9 RS with some scratches yet sakura could damage kaguya like that? To add insult to injury sakura was pretty low on chakra at that point.

 

[Melanin]

Sakura's power up isn't an ass pull, a dog with a marble eye could've seen that.

 

[Wolves]

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"Facts". Kabuto has controlled Edo Tensei before like he did with Nagato. Doesn't mean he can use the abilities they have.

Knowing what they do doesn't mean at all he can use it. The Rinnegan is just as much a tool as any weapon By that logic, because I know how an automatic machine gun works, I should know exactly how to use it.

You're just proving my point. Nagato had no free will to battle as he wished. There is no dialogue or "orders" as you say in the fight between nagato and kabuto that shows nagato having any control on what kabuto is doing. We just get kabuto making him use the jutsu he wants them to use. If nagato has the jutsu kabuto can force him to use it as he has complete control over him. The

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he makes are Kabuto's fault. Are you trying to argue kabuto cant force an edo to use a jutsu he wishes them to use regardless of what they want???

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We get Nagato not willing to fight so we have kabuto forcing him to move and use jutsu

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I'm confused at what you are trying to argue here

*Edit you took that scan out of context and you weren't using the viz scan. Here it shows Kabuto deciding what jutsu to use and what he wants to do with it. With clear knowledge of the jutsu

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[Venomous Cobra]

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"Facts". Kabuto has controlled Edo Tensei before like he did with Nagato. Doesn't mean he can use the abilities they have.

Knowing what they do doesn't mean at all he can use it. The Rinnegan is just as much a tool as any weapon By that logic, because I know how an automatic machine gun works, I should know exactly how to use it.

You're arguing for his point with that scan, kabuto specifically shares the particularl set of attacks and movement he intends to make the third raikage use, he even goes as far to select the option of movement in the last second which js pretty much full control. An automatic machine is started up and given a procedure and it completes generally, the method however is beyond the users authority thus this contradicts with your analogy as we all know that a

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human is unable to pull of procedures unless he/she are fully controlled with every move. Sure "mind" in this context can refer to consciousness, but around the first bansho tenin nagato loses all his consciousness and will, this is further evident by how (regardless of his intention of helping naruto through advices )he suddenly went quite and didn't say anything which is drastic compared to his previous attitude. Nagatos own set of counters to whatever itachi did might have been different but at the moment it was compelety obvious that kabuto took full control thus every action happened according to his decisions(which he clearly regrets later on in the scan wolves has shown while talking about how he mispredicted itachis counter measurement to the rinnegan shared vision, if it was nagatos approach then he would have blamed his decision but instead he blames himself)

Edo Tensei has at least 2 levels regarding its control
1-Giving a task and leaving the method to the puppet(Itachi when he fought against naruto briefly)
2- complete control in actions and how they are done ( nagato and third raikage for example)

 

[Demonic.]

You're just proving my point. Nagato had no free will to battle as he wished. There is no dialogue or "orders" as you say in the fight between nagato and kabuto that shows nagato having any control on what kabuto is doing. We just get kabuto making him use the jutsu he wants them to use. If nagato has the jutsu kabuto can force him to use it as he has complete control over him. The

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he makes are Kabuto's fault. Are you trying to argue kabuto cant force an edo to use a jutsu he wishes them to use regardless of what they want???

Remeber
We get Nagato not willing to fight so we have kabuto forcing him to move and use jutsu

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I'm confused at what you are trying to argue here

*Edit you took that scan out of context and you weren't using the viz scan. Here it shows Kabuto deciding what jutsu to use and what he wants to do with it. With clear knowledge of the jutsu

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Agreed 100% and this should be obvious tbh, I think this scan also proves your point:

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[FemmeFatale]

How was Sakuras power a ass pull it was foreshadowed more than once, she had perfect chakra control since the begining , and on the Byakugou first appearance tsunade clearly said that she stored chakra in one spot for a few years , also like 20 chapter before that tsunade talked about how front line medics who also fight would have to possess this jutsu, then she said that katsuyus power is determined by the Byakugou in later chapter but it was implied during the pein arc. And Sakura was foreshadow to gain a slug summon like in the third chapter , so what was the asspull

 

[patrickscott]

Naruto tearing Kaguya's arm off after having his period about Obito, but somehow she be moving like superman against Sasuke's PS.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

2 words, Minato's kcm :elmo:

 

[-Punk-]

You forgot one of the biggest ones which was Izanami. Also how in the hell was Sakuras power up foreshadow? Being Tsunades student doesn't justify it. I don't remember her or anywhere in the manga where her power was foreshadow, if so why she never used it to help out ? There's was countless times where she could have used it yet she never did or even hit she had that type of power. There's a difference between pulling it out of nowhere and pulling it when you hinted it before but this never happen.

Zip

 

[kimb]

Naruto using TnJ on Juubito.

 

[Dizzldot]

Naruto tearing Kaguya's arm off after having his period about Obito, but somehow she be moving like superman against Sasuke's PS.

you must have gone in the ocean cuz this post is covered with salt

 

[Dizzldot]

Then you must be diabetic to have took the bait.

I don't get it but thats very insulting to people who are diabetic in this world.

 

[Dizzldot]

OKay I'll say this slowly. Buy a tampon for your hormones and PMS, develop a sense of humor, then slowly log back in.

You actually probably typed that decently quick unless your unathletic body also has terrible finger to keyboard coordination

 

[Dizzldot]

I do 2 and 1/2 miles in 18 minutes. How about you? Be happy I'm actually increasing your post count. Again please don't eat so much salt i think it's starting to seep out of your posts.

2 1/2 in 16:47 fastest was 16:26
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[Guntah]

You're just proving my point. Nagato had no free will to battle as he wished. There is no dialogue or "orders" as you say in the fight between nagato and kabuto that shows nagato having any control on what kabuto is doing. We just get kabuto making him use the jutsu he wants them to use. If nagato has the jutsu kabuto can force him to use it as he has complete control over him. The

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he makes are Kabuto's fault. Are you trying to argue kabuto cant force an edo to use a jutsu he wishes them to use regardless of what they want???
Remeber
We get Nagato not willing to fight so we have kabuto forcing him to move and use jutsu

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The he gains

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and he directly

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I'm confused at what you are trying to argue here

*Edit you took that scan out of context and you weren't using the viz scan. Here it shows Kabuto deciding what jutsu to use and what he wants to do with it. With clear knowledge of the jutsu

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I am trying to argue that Kabuto is not taking control of the Edo Tensei's body per say, just ordering their every movement, since the former would require extensive knowledge of how to use each and every one of his Edo Tensei's jutsu...an argument that got sidetracked at some point, it seems.