Ashura's Side Can Awaken Rinnegan

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He wouldn't man. Getting hagaormoo's chakra doesn't automatically get you think rinnegan. Kakashi was given direct Hagormoo's chakra and his eyes didn't become the rinnegan.

Kishi make's one confusing ass manga lol
 

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Don't give me that crap your with your below average shit English.
You have to be an idiot to think that Ashura's have the potential of awakening an ocular power that requires you to have chakra in the eyes. Get that paraphrasing crap out of here, I already posted the viz translation. Read that and then come back with a valid response.

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It says and I quote now (paraphrasing was supposed to help you comprehend, lol) "I always thought that such a fellow will appear among either indra or his reincarnates" damn! can you even read? He said a fellow that will merge Ashura's chakra and Indra's chakra was bound to come along (among Indra's reincarnates). How does that in anyway signify that Ashura could not merge the chakra?

OT: while I feel it's possible, the source of the chakra has to be a dojutsu, for Madara/Indra the source has to be the body, and for Ashura it has to be the eyes. Since they lack body and eyes respectively
That was my reply to the OP and it answers what you're claiming @bold
 

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Kishi make's one confusing ass manga lol

He needs to be literal

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It says and I quote now (paraphrasing was supposed to help you comprehend, lol) "I always thought that such a fellow will appear among either indra or his reincarnates" damn! can you even read? He said a fellow that will merge Ashura's chakra and Indra's chakra was bound to come along (among Indra's reincarnates). How does that in anyway signify that Ashura could not merge the chakra?

Oh god look at what you're saying.:kk:
-I said Rinnegan first and foremost, nothing about them gaining Hagormoo chakra. Just because you get Hagormoo chakra doesn't mean you automatically awaken the rinnegan, just look at Kakashi.
-Black zetsu said that he's approached both clans and merge both chakra together to form Hagormoo's. All of them failed until Madara came along. Both clans looked for power and both clans merged chakras overtime. They all failed but the Uchihas.
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- "I thought that such a fellow would appear among either Indra or his reincarnates"
That's what Hagormoo said. If you can actually read properly and understand basic comprehension, you would know that he never said this fanfic you just quoted now.
He said a fellow that will merge Ashura's chakra and Indra's chakra was bound to come along (among Indra's reincarnates)
 
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Hago eyes(Indra) without hago body = Sharingan eyes & MS & EMS + Hago Chakra = Rinnegan or One of the variation(Sasuke's)
Hago body(Ashura) without eyes = Strong chakra and lifeforce + Hago Chkara = RSM

While body can't be transferred, its possible to transfer the eyes to an Ashura avatar and then with Hago chakra they might awaken the rinnegan. Indra's avatars can unlock RSM in the same manner imo cuz they can't do full body transplant but gain Rinnegan with ashura chakra only just like Madara did.
So for RSM Hago chakra is need + Ashura body
but for rinnegan Indra's Eyes + Ashura chakra cna awaken it.

Simple conclusion..
Ashura can awaken the rinnegan he has access to a pair of Indra eyes and Chakra or Hago chakra.
 

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Hago eyes(Indra) without hago body = Sharingan eyes & MS & EMS + Hago Chakra = Rinnegan or One of the variation(Sasuke's)
Hago body(Ashura) without eyes = Strong chakra and lifeforce + Hago Chkara = RSM

While body can't be transferred, its possible to transfer the eyes to an Ashura avatar and then with Hago chakra they might awaken the rinnegan. Indra's avatars can unlock RSM in the same manner imo cuz they can't do full body transplant but gain Rinnegan with ashura chakra only just like Madara did.
So for RSM Hago chakra is need + Ashura body
but for rinnegan Indra's Eyes + Ashura chakra cna awaken it.

Simple conclusion..
Ashura can awaken the rinnegan he has access to a pair of Indra eyes and Chakra or Hago chakra.

Body can't be transferred but the user can learn sage mode, which produces senjutsu. Senjutsu = Body

Thats probably why i believe Kishi removed Sasuke's curse mark. Curse mark was able to draw natural energy and produce senjutsu, it was an unstable sage mode.
 

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Body can't be transferred but the user can learn sage mode, which produces senjutsu. Senjutsu = Body

Thats probably why i believe Kishi removed Sasuke's curse mark. Curse mark was able to draw natural energy and produce senjutsu, it was an unstable sage mode.

Yes they can but Senjutsu and RSM senjutsu are two different things and CM was mediocre level senjutsu at best when compared to the toad and snake sage modes.
 

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Pure fanfic

it's a dojutsu for a reason, it can't surface out of thin air.

"The older son gained his father's eyes, while the younger son gained his father's body"

You're wrong. Black Zetsu attempted to get Transmigrants from both clans to awaken the Rinnegan. If Ashura's side could not awaken the Rinnegan, then there'd be no point in even searching out Transmigrants from the Senju Clan.

Also, the older son obtained Dojutsu through his Spiritual Energy, so Ashura's side obtaining Indra's Chakra would automatically give them Dojutsu.
 

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But still Indra power alone will never progress to Rinnegan. His transmigrant would have to break the boundary like Madara and sasuke.

I know, but I'm saying only Indra's eyes can naturally evolve into the Rinnegan, while only Hashirama's body can naturally unlock Six Path Senjutsu, but both of them can still reach the Sage's full potential, albeit in opposite ways.

If Madara transplanted Hashi's eyes instead of the flesh he would still awaken the Rinnegan because his brain produces the Yin chakra necessary to awaken Hago's dojutsu, but he wouldn't have Yang chakra to become the JuubiJin.

In contrast, Hashi would awaken the Rinnegan and have potential to become JJ if he transplants Madara's eyes, but will only unlock SPS without Hago's dojutsu if he transplants Madara's flesh. They require opposite methods to reach JJ Hagoromo's full power, Madara needs flesh while Hashirama needs eyes.
 

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Maybe if Naruto for example were to transplant a Sharingan into himself, then he will unlock the Rinnegan.
Ashura = Body
Indra = Eyes
Madara took a bite of Hashi's body, so my guess is that if Hashi were to get a hold of a pair of Sharingan, then he would unlock the Rinnegan.

But that's just my guess.
 

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He needs to be literal



Oh god look at what you're saying.:kk:
-I said Rinnegan first and foremost, nothing about them gaining Hagormoo chakra. Just because you get Hagormoo chakra doesn't mean you automatically awaken the rinnegan, just look at Kakashi.
-Black zetsu said that he's approached both clans and merge both chakra together to form Hagormoo's. All of them failed until Madara came along. Both clans looked for power and both clans merged chakras overtime. They all failed but the Uchihas.
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- "I thought that such a fellow would appear among either Indra or his reincarnates"
That's what Hagormoo said. If you can actually read properly and understand basic comprehension, you would know that he never said this fanfic you just quoted now.
Do I really have to write out the whole manga page for you to understand?

"though Madara created a problem before he finished being a reincarnate.
He was so obsessed with power that he stole some of Hashirama's.
Which in short, caused merging of part of Ashura's chakra with Indra's,
And resulted in the derivation of my own chakra's power
That's right, the awakening of the rinnegan
I always thought such a fellow (a fellow like Madara, a transmigrant obsessed with Power) would appear among Indra or his reincarnates
Which is why I left that stone tablet with guidance on reforming one's thinking..... "

I don't see where you get the idea Ashura's or his transmigrants can't obtain Hagomoro's "chakra's power" (the rinnegan) if they transplanted Indra's chakra (his eyes) or where you got the idea I thought you weren't referring to the rinnegan.

I'll ignore the other parts of your post that's an attempt at Red herring
 
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Guys...madara only gave one of his eyes to naga to,but as u saw nagato had rinnegan in both eyes. He was an uzumaki,and we know they are related to senjus.
So,the ashura's reincarnate will need to transplant Indra's reincarnate to awaken the rinnegan .
So simple.:|
 

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Rinnegan isnt Uchiha Exclusive. It's Hagaromo exclusive, If a near Death Hashirama implanted Madaras DNA into him whether it's his eye's or flesh. He could get Rinnegan.

Same for naruto towards Sasuke. Naruto with sasuke's DNA could awaken Rinnegan.

If Ashura side got Indra's chakra and the 2 mix. It'll unlock Hagaromo chakra which has Rinnegan.

RSM only wokrs with Hagaromo's Senjutsu and Tailed Beast.

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Sasuke's DNA? :| I didn't know the source of Sasuke's power was his body.

OP the only way that an Ashura incarnate could awaken Rinnegan is if they took the Indra incarnation's eyes......and probably wait till they were on their death bed:coffee:

Even then there is the possibility that the Indra incarnation might have had to increase the power of their eyes to the level that Madara did (EMS)

So basically there are a lot of requirements and tbh, it seems like the incarnation would have to risk their life simply for a possibility
 
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Ashura's chakra + indra's chakra = rinnegan (a totally different doujutsu)

You don't need to steal their eyes to get the rinnegan..just get Indra's chakra, and wait until you grow old and get the rinnegan unlocked. I assume the whole time waiting also depends on the amount of chakra.

Uchiha have normal eyes before unlocking the sharingan (which is unlocked due to the chakra in their brain being unlocked).

Similarly, that individual would have normal eyes, until he unlocked the rinnegan, when the Hagoromo's chakra is awakened.

By your logic, Naruto should've unlocked the rinnegan aswell. Since he received Hagoromo chakra. Only Indra's transmigrants have the potential to unlock the rinnegan.

Except Naruto didn't recieve Indra's chakra. While Sasuke was revived via the usage of Hashirama's cells aka Ashura's chakra.
 
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Ashura's chakra + indra's chakra = rinnegan (a totally different doujutsu)

You don't need to steal their eyes to get the rinnegan..just get Indra's chakra, and wait until you grow old and get the rinnegan unlocked. I assume the whole time waiting also depends on the amount of chakra.

Uchiha have normal eyes before unlocking the sharingan (which is unlocked due to the chakra in their brain being unlocked).

Similarly, that individual would have normal eyes, until he unlocked the rinnegan, when the Hagoromo's chakra is awakened.



Except Naruto didn't recieve Indra's chakra. While Sasuke was revived via the usage of Hashirama's cells aka Ashura's chakra.

Hashirama has Mokuton so I am pretty sure that he has absorbed tons of Madara's chakra before :| Uchiha have power in their eyes

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Also Sasuke's rinnegan came straight from Hagoromo
 

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Ashura's chakra + indra's chakra = rinnegan (a totally different doujutsu)

You don't need to steal their eyes to get the rinnegan..just get Indra's chakra, and wait until you grow old and get the rinnegan unlocked. I assume the whole time waiting also depends on the amount of chakra.

Uchiha have normal eyes before unlocking the sharingan (which is unlocked due to the chakra in their brain being unlocked). By your logic, Obito should have unlocked the rinnegan too since he also possessed Hashirama's cells within his body.

Similarly, that individual would have normal eyes, until he unlocked the rinnegan, when the Hagoromo's chakra is awakened.



Except Naruto didn't recieve Indra's chakra. While Sasuke was revived via the usage of Hashirama's cells aka Ashura's chakra.

Hashirama's cells have nothing to do with Sasuke's rinnegan awakening. You need Indra's and Ashura's chakra. Ashura's chakra migrated from Hashirama to Naruto a long time ago. Kabuto used Hashirama's cells to heal Sasuke's fatal hounds.
 

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Hashirama's cells have nothing to do with Sasuke's rinnegan awakening. You need Indra's and Ashura's chakra. Ashura's chakra migrated from Hashirama to Naruto a long time ago. Kabuto used Hashirama's cells to heal Sasuke's fatal hounds.

Edo Hashirama and a dead body of Madara, still contained Indra and Ashura's chakra.. lol

Hashirama has Mokuton so I am pretty sure that he has absorbed tons of Madara's chakra before :| Uchiha have power in their eyes

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Also Sasuke's rinnegan came straight from Hagoromo

So can you show where the chakra absorbed by Mokuton is transfered to the user?? because i hope you know its not the same as preta path.. lol

chakra that makes the sharingan, doesn't come from the eyes but the brain:

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