Ashura can only transmigrant in his descendants?

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Uzumaki's are related to Senju.
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Wrong.

Scan1:Nagato can have a Uzumaki parent and a Senju parent.
Scan2:Distant is a relative word , that's not a proof that the 1st Uzumaki was a Senju at all.
 

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Indra and Ashura could theoretically transmigrate into anyone that they want to. However, they are likely to transmigrate into stronger vessels and of similar origin. This does not mean its a requirement for them to be of the same lineage, just that they are likely to look there.

The only requirement seems to be the two wait until the other dies before transmigrating again. Example is Madara and Hashirama. Hashirama died literally decades before Madara, since Madara died only 16 years before the series started. This means Ashura's rebirth was purposely delayed until Madara finally keeled over.
 

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Indra and Ashura could theoretically transmigrate into anyone that they want to. However, they are likely to transmigrate into stronger vessels and of similar origin. This does not mean its a requirement for them to be of the same lineage, just that they are likely to look there.

The only requirement seems to be the two wait until the other dies before transmigrating again. Example is Madara and Hashirama. Hashirama died literally decades before Madara, since Madara died only 16 years before the series started. This means Ashura's rebirth was purposely delayed until Madara finally keeled over.

Interesting point , that works great.

That fits the timeline perfectly.

Madara died the day Obito went attack Konoha , that day Kushina met Sasuke , he was a little baby:
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This day is also the day when Minato died and the day of Naruto's birth.
 

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Wrong.

Scan1:Nagato can have a Uzumaki parent and a Senju parent.
Scan2:Distant is a relative word , that's not a proof that the 1st Uzumaki was a Senju at all.

How is it wrong?

Response to #1. That's speculation on your part.
Also Kabuto confirms that Nagato was an Uzumaki.
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Response to #2. There is no proof the Uzumaki aren't related to the Senju.

Zetsu and Kushina give reference to the Uzumaki and Senju connection. This is the author expositing backstory through the characters. And when you consider Naruto (an Uzumaki) was Ashura's transmigrant/reincarnation and that Hashirama (a Senju) was also previously a transmigrant/reincarnation. That signifies a connection. The Uchiha have no branches or offshoot clans, so all the reincarnations have been within the Uchiha Clan. Ashura has two clans that descend from his bloodline. So there are 2 clans to choose from whenever he reincarnates.

Also keep in mind that Hashirama married Mito Uzumaki. Mito Uzumaki who was related in some way to Kushina Uzumaki (Naruto's mother). Mito is also Tsunade's grandmother. I'm sure if we had a family tree, we could find that Naruto is a distant nephew or cousin to Tsunade twice removed (removed meaning being born during different generations).
 

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How is it wrong?

Response to #1. That's speculation on your part.
Also Kabuto confirms that Nagato was an Uzumaki.
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Response to #2. There is no proof the Uzumaki aren't related to the Senju.

Zetsu and Kushina give reference to the Uzumaki and Senju connection. This is the author expositing backstory through the characters. And when you consider Naruto (an Uzumaki) was Ashura's transmigrant/reincarnation and that Hashirama (a Senju) was also previously a transmigrant/reincarnation. That signifies a connection. The Uchiha have no branches or offshoot clans, so all the reincarnations have been within the Uchiha Clan. Ashura has two clans that descend from his bloodline. So there are 2 clans to choose from whenever he reincarnates.

Also keep in mind that Hashirama married Mito Uzumaki. Mito Uzumaki who was related in some way to Kushina Uzumaki (Naruto's mother). Mito is also Tsunade's grandmother. I'm sure if we had a family tree, we could find that Naruto is a distant nephew or cousin to Tsunade twice removed (removed meaning being born during different generations).
Lol don't even bother with him. The dude will keep denying it.
 

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Interesting point , that works great.

That fits the timeline perfectly.

Madara died the day Obito went attack Konoha , that day Kushina met Sasuke , he was a little baby:
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This day is also the day when Minato died and the day of Naruto's birth.

Not the same day, if I recall, but Sasuke was no older than a few months. Yet the consistency remains, Indra had to wait until Madara died to chose, and chose Sasuke. After Indra made his choice, Ashura waited and chose Naruto after his birth. Yet Ashura had to wait 34 odd years for Madara to die first.
 

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Uzumaki clan and Senju clan of KONOHA are distant relatives....

Senju clan isn't the only "clan" with "senju blood". Hashirama's senju clan contained other groups who had senju blood, compared to the senju clan under Batsuma.


For them to be distant relatives, they need to share the same blood....... People should've gotten the clue Uzumaki are senju after reading these 2 scans..

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Ashura and Indra choose their descendants. They have a choice in who they want to reincarnate into

They only go into their descendents. Otherwise Ashura would've migrated to Yahiko, who had similar beliefs like Hashirama and Naruto.
 
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Could you link me to the whole thing? Thank you in advance

Here you go.

Hashirama's databook profile text!
は~ほ
ha~ho (Japanese alphabet range)
ほかげ しょだい
Founder Hokage
火影(初代・千手柱間)
Hokage (Founder/Senju Hashirama)
パラッ
para (sound of leaf breaking off)
紡いで見せてくれ!!
Bring it to life!!
我ら忍の――本当の夢を!!
The true dream―― of us ninjas!!

Fire

Water

Earth

Lightning

Air

Yang

仙限口
summon , Kekkei Genkai , sage



忍の礎を築きし一世之雄
Hero of an Age Building the Cornerstone of Ninjas
遠き未来に夢を託さん
Never entrusting his dream to the distant future
「忍の神」と謳われた千手柱間には�� �夢があった。
Hashirama Senju, the famed “Ninja God”, had a dream.
いつか若き忍達が争うことなく、平�� �に暮らせる世がくることを…。
A dream that one day, a world where young ninjas could live peacefully would come about.
数多の犠牲と屍を乗り越え、柱間は�� �の里を初めて創設する。
Overcoming the piles of victims and corpses, Hashirama founds a village of ninjas for the first time.
だが彼が見つめる先は、もっと未来�� �あった。
But the prize of his eye was much farther in the future.
国を超えて忍が協力し、助け合い、�� �が一つとなる日。
A day when ninjas unified, helping each other and cooperating regardless of nation.
己が生きる時代には叶わぬと知りな�� �らも、揺らぐことがなかった熱き「� ��の意志」は、親から子、子から孫へ と受け継がれた。
Although he knew it wouldn’t be achieved during the age in which he lived, his unshakable burning “fiery will” was inherited from parent to child, child to grandchild.
そして今、現世に甦った彼の目前で�� �実を結ばんとしている。
And now, reborn into the world, he attempts to bring it to fruition.
扉間…
Tobirama…
普段は温厚だが、一度本気になれば�� �鋭い眼光だけで周囲を威圧する。
He normally has a warm personality, but if he gets serious, he can subdue the surroundings with only the sharp look in his eyes.
ガハハハ!!
Gahahaha!!
いや、すまんすまん!!
Just kidding, sorry!!
その性格は豪放磊落(ごうほうらいら� ��)。
A carefree and easy-going personality.
火影に相応しい器の持ち主。
An appropriate vessel for Hokage.
…火の国を守る影の忍の長…
…The leader of shadow ninjas protecting the nation of conflagration…
名を火影(ほかげ)
Name: Hokage (fire shadow)
どうだ?
What do you think?
忍の長を「火影」と名付けたのも柱�� �だ。
Hashirama was also the one who named the ninja leader “Hokage”.
木の葉隠れの里の歴史はここから始�� �った。
The history of the village hidden in the shade of trees began here.
忍者登録番号 一
Ninja Registration Number: 1
誕生日 10月23日(享年不明・てんびん座)
Birthday: Oct. 23 (Lifespan unknown / Libra)
身長 185.1cm 体重 74.0kg 血液型 B型
Height: 185.1cm Weight: 74.0kg Blood type: B
性格 温厚、思慮深い、豪放磊落
Personality: Warm, considerate, carefree and easy-going
木遁や仙術に長けた柱間は、もとも�� �自然が大好き。
Hashirama, who had mastered hermit sorcery and the Ninja Art of Escape using the Wood element, has always loved nature.
盆栽を愛でることが囁かな喜びだ。
Appreciating bonsai is one of his secret pleasures.
5年前
5 years prior
一度目の”穢土転生”
First “reincarnation into the world of impurity”
久し振りよのォ…サル…
Long time no see… chimp…
はあ…お前か…
Heh… You, huh?
年を取ったな__
You’ve aged, _____.
前回の”穢土転生”は精度が低く、�� �間は本来の実力を発揮できなかった� ��
His last “reincarnation into the world of impurity” was imprecise, and Hashirama wasn’t able to exhibit his true power.



その姿勇猛無比 人呼んで「忍の神」
He who is most valiant, known as “Ninja God”
【木遁忍術】
[Ninja Art of Escape using the Wood Element]
柱間を「最強の忍」と言わしめた力�� �それが「木遁」だ。
The power that caused Hashirama to be called “The Strongest Ninja” was called “Mokuton” (the Ninja Art of Escape using the Wood element).
土遁と水遁のチャクラの基本性質を�� �時に発動させる血継限界だが、千手� ��族の中でも柱間のみが使える唯一無 二の秘術。
There are bloodline limitations to Doton and Suiton (the Ninja Arts of Escape using the Earth and Water elements, respectively) simultaneously activating the chakras’ fundamental abilities, but even among the Senju Clan, it is a unique secret ability only Hashirama is able to use.
その力は「尾獣」すらも沈黙させる�� �だ。
The ability can even silence “tailed beasts”.
"四赤陽陣"と"明神門"を継続しつつ、6 体の木分身を披露!チャクラ量は底を� ��せない。
While continuing “Shiseki-youjin” and “Myoujinmon” arts, six wooden other selves appear! Chakra reserves know no bottom!
邪魔をするなマダラ!!
Stop interfering, Madara!!
生前から、マダラとは永遠のライバ�� �だ。
Madara’s eternal rival from previous incarnations.
仙法
Hermit Sorcery
稀代の木遁忍術だけではなく、忍・�� �・幻全ての「術」を飛躍的に底上げ� ��る「仙術」まで会得し た柱間。
In addition to the rare Mokuton Ninja Art, Hashirama mastered “Hermit Sorcery”, which raised the bar for all stealth, corporeal, and illusion arts.
本来、戦闘中に仙術チャクラを練る�� �とは困難を極めるが、柱間は瞬時に� ��仙人モード”となるこ とが可能だ。
Although it is normally extremely difficult to exercise chakras for hermit sorcery in battle, Hashirama has the abitily to instantly enter “Hermit Mode”.
【治癒能力】
Healing Ability
さらに驚嘆すべきはその回復力。
Further worthy of admiration is his recovery ability.
高度な医療忍術を操り、印を結ぶこ�� �すらなく傷を治せるのだ。
Commanding high-level ninja healing arts, he can heal wounds even without making hand gestures.
肉体そのものも生命力にあふれ、柱�� �の細胞を持つ者の治癒力を高める効� ��も。
His body itself brimming with vitality, those with Hashirama’s cells have heightened healing ability.
その力を超える忍は、以後現在まで�� �在しない。
To this day, there is no ninja existing who surpasses his power.
【溢れるカリスマ】
Overflowing Charisma
柱間が声を発すれば、皆が振り向く�� �
When Hashirama projects his voice, everyone turns to look…
それは単に、彼が伝説の火影だから�� �はない。
And it isn’t simply because he’s the legendary Hokage.
その言葉一つ一つに里や忍への想い�� �滲み、真実の重みが宿るからこそ。
It’s because each of his words exudes his feelings for the village’s ninjas, and in them resides the weight of the truth.
柱間の言葉の奥に灯る「火の意志」�� �皆の心を掻き立てるのだ。
The “fiery will” behind Hashirama’s words stirs the hearts of all.
希望を追う
Following my ambition
行くぞ!!!
Here I go!!!
柱間の「喝」が、皆の胸に希望の灯�� �灯す。
Hashirama’s “Thundering Yell” lights the fire of ambition in the hearts of all.




マダラに…大蛇丸に…狙われし柱間�� �細胞
Hashirama’s sought-after cells… in Madara… in Orochimaru
マダラが造った柱間の人造体
Hashirama’s artificial body of Madara’s creation
類いまれなる回復力を持つ柱間の肉�� �は、他者の体においてもその能力を� ��揮する。
The unparalleled recovery ability of Hashirama’s body could even exhibit that ability in the bodies of others.
マダラは、終末の谷の戦いで手にし�� �柱間の細胞を傷口に移植することで� ��きながらえた。
Madara lived on by transplanting into a wound Hashirama’s cells that he obtained in the Battle of the Valley of the End.
さらに、外道魔像を触媒にして生き�� �細胞を培養し、柱間の人造体を製造� ��
In addition, by using the Demon Statue as a catalyst, he cultivated living cells to create an artificial body of Hashirama.
瀕死の重傷を負ったオビトも、人造�� �を半身に植えつけられたことで傷を� ��すことができたのだ。
Even the critically wounded Obito healed his injuries by transplanting half of an artificial body.
柱間の細胞を植え付けた場所には顔�� �浮かび上がる。
Hashirama’s face appears wherever his cells have been implanted.
細胞は生きているが意識はない。
The cells are alive, but have no awareness.
大蛇丸の人体実験の果てに…
As a result of Orochimaru’s human experiments…
不老不死という飽くなき野望を抱く�� �蛇丸にとって、柱間の再生能力は重� ��な研究対象だった。
For Orochimaru, who had an insatiable desire for immortality, Hashirama’s regenerative abilities were a critical target of research.
その細胞に秘められた力を我がもの�� �せんと実験が繰り返され、禁じられ� ��術の開発に悪用される 。
In order to make the power hidden in the cells his, he repeated experiments and misused them for the development of forbidden arts.
初代のクローンであるヤマトも哀し�� �産物だ。
Yamato, the founder’s clone, was an unfortunate product of this.
その無二の特性は、柱間が最強の忍�� �あることの裏付けの一つである。
That unrivaled characteristic was one of the substantiating factors for Hashirama being the strongest ninja.
奴は印を結ぶことすらなく傷を治す�� �とができた…
The guy could heal wounds without even making hand symbols.
全ての術がケタ違い…
All of his arts are superior by a factor of 10…
人は奴を最強の忍と呼んだ
People called the guy the strongest ninja.
初代の細胞を埋め込んで身体エネル�� �ーを向上させていたのか
So he buried the founder’s cells in his body and was raising his body’s energy…
千手の力を渇望したダンゾウは、己�� �体に柱間の細胞を埋め込んだ。
Thirsy for Senju’s power, Danzou buries Hashirama’s cells deep into his own body.
忍の神にほめていただけて…光栄で�� �
It’s an honor to be praised by the Ninja God.
甦った現在の大蛇丸。
The current reborn Orochimaru
肉体のほとんどは柱間の細胞で構成�� �れている。
Most of his body is made up of cells from Hashirama.



千手(せんじゅ)とうちは――断ち切れ ぬ因果(いんが)の末に
Senju and Uchiha―― The edge of unstoppable destiny
語り合った夢
Dreams Discussed
壮絶なる忍の戦国時代――。
The warring states period of valiant ninjas――.
柱間(はしらま)とマダラは運命の邂逅 (かいこう)を果たした。
Hashirama and Madara had a fateful chance meeting.
幼い弟達の死を間近に見てきた柱間�� �マダラは、世の過ちを悟り意志を同� ��くした。
Hashirama and Madara, having recently seen the deaths of some young boys, became aware of the wrongs in the world and unified their wills.
かつての二人は心を許す友であった�� �…。
The two used to be friends who trusted each other, but…
アハハハお先~~~!!
Ahahaha! I’ll go first!
あっ!てめエ!!
Hey! Youuu!!
落ち込むフリしやがったな!
Pretending to fall down like that!
宿敵(しゅくてき)と知らず心を通わせ た二人。
Not knowing they are long-standing rivals, the two communicated their thoughts.
共に過ごす時間が、唯一の憩(いこ)い だった。
The time they spent together was their only relaxation.
子供がちゃんと強く大きくなるため�� �訓練する学校を作る!
I’m going to make a school where kids properly train to become big and strong!
個人の能力や力に合わせて任務を選�� �る!
They can choose a duty based on their individual abilities and strengths.
依頼レベルをしゃんと振り分けられ�� �上役(うわやく)を作る
I’ll make higher-ups who can properly assign job levels.
子供を激しい戦地へ送ったりしなく�� �いい集落だ!
A village that doesn’t have to send children to violent battlefields!
後に木の葉隠(がく)れの里となる場所 を一望(いちぼう)し、マダラに夢を語 る。
His single hope was for a place that would become a village hidden in the shade of trees, and he told Madara about this dream.
先は希望に満ちていた。
The future was full of hope.
六道(りくどう)仙人の系譜(けいふ)に� ��なりし一族
The clan of the Rikudou Hermit’s lineage
忍の創世記(そうせいき)まで遡(さか�� �ぼ)る、千手とうちはの因縁(いんね�� �)の糸。
Tracing back to the genesis of ninjas, Senju and Uchiha’s thread of connection.
両族は、共に六道仙人を始祖(しそ)と し、その力を色濃く受け継ぐ。
Both clans take the Rikudou Hermit as their founder, and strongly inherit that power.
さらに柱間とマダラは、六道仙人の�� �子アシュラとインドラのチャクラが� ��れぞれ宿った、転生者(てんしょう しゃ)でもある。
Moreover, Hashirama and Madara are the reincarnations of the the Rikudou Hermit’s sons Ashura and Indra, respectively.
柱間とマダラの対立は、避けられな�� �定めだったのかもしれない…。
The rivalry between Hashirama and Madara may be unavoidable destiny.
柱間がアシュラ、マダラがインドラ�� �
Hashirama is Ashura; Madara is Indra.
…その二人がどうなったかは分かる�� �
…I assume you know what happened to the two of them.
天才である兄インドラと、父の意志�� �継いだ弟アシュラという宿縁(しゅく えん)は世代を超えて争いを生み出 した。
The karma of Indra, the genius older brother, and Ashura, the younger brother who inherited his father’s will, was to go beyond their generation and start a war.
木の葉の千手一族と渦潮(うずしお)の うずまき一族は遠い血縁(けつえん)関 係にあたる忍達…
The Konoha Senju Clan and the Uzushio Vortex Clan are ninjas of distant blood relation…
千手一族の遠縁(とうえん)にあたるう ずまき一族も、六道仙人の一跡(いっ� ��き)にあたるとい えるだろう。
The Vortex Clan, a distant relative of the Senju Clan, could also be said to be a lineage of the Rikudou Hermit.



綻び始める運命
Fate that starts to come apart at the seams
柱間とマダラ、二人の運命は突如と�� �て綻び始める。
Hashirama and Madara’s fate suddenly starts to come apart at the seams.
千手とうちは――互いの正体が割れ�� �ことで、柱間とマダラの「友」とし� ��の関係は儚くも終わり を告げた。
Senju and Uchiha――When their true forms were revealed, Hashirama and Madara’s “friend” relationship fleetingly announced its end.
やがて二人は互いに一族を率いる長�� �なり、無慈悲なる運命のもと両族の� ��立は激化していく…。
The two would both soon become the leaders of their respective clans, and the cold fate of the two clans to be at odds would only intensify…
次からは戦場で会うことになるだろ�� �ぜ、千手柱間…
You know, the next time we meet will be on the battlefield, Senju Hashirama…
柱間に決別を言い渡した直後に、マ�� �ラの”写輪眼”が目覚めた。
Right after he announced the split to Hashirama, Madara’s “Wheel-Projecting Eye” awoke.
二人で描いた夢の実現――
Bringing their shared dream to life――
永久に続くと思われた戦いの中、柱�� �は諦めずに、うちは一族に休戦協定� ��送り続けた。
Amidst the seemingly never-ending battle, Hashirama persistently continued to send the Uchiha clan offers of a truce.
忍の未来を思う柱間の揺るがぬ意志�� �、マダラの凍てついた心はついに氷� ��する。
Hashirama’s unwavering will to create a future for ninjas finally melted Madara’s cold heart.
両族は手を組み、二人が幼き頃に夢�� �た夢が、平安の里作りが、始まった� ��だ…。
The two clans shook hands, and the dream they had dreamt in their younger days of creating a peaceful village began to take shape…
地形を変えるほどの壮絶な戦いの末�� �柱間はかつての友マダラに止めを刺� ��た。
At the end of a valiant landscape-altering battle, Hashirama dealt a finishing blow to his former friend Madara.
夢のようだった…うちはと千手が手�� �組んだのだ
It was like a dream…Uchiha and Senju shook hands.
もう多くの犠牲が出ることもない…�� �くの子供の死も必要なくなる……
No longer would many become victims… No longer would children need to die……
こうして忍族連合体である里システ�� �が誕生した。
This is how the Ninja Clan Federation Village System was born.
哀しき決別の刻
The sad time of parting ways
だが、哀しき輪廻は加速する。
However, the cycle of reincarnation would accelerate.
柱間と再び袂を分かったマダラが、�� �ノ葉を強襲したのだ。
Madara, who once again parted ways with Hashirama, launched an assault on Konoha.
戦いを終えた柱間の心に残ったもの�� �―それは一つの覚悟。
The only thing that was in Hashirama’s heart after ending the battle―― was one resolve.
先を見るためではなく、今を見守る�� �めに…忍として、耐え忍ぶ覚悟だっ� ��。
It was a resolve he had to bear as a ninja, not for looking to the future, but for watching over the present.
たとえそれが…友であろうと、兄弟�� �あろうと、我が子であろうと…
No matter if it’s a friend, a sibling, or a child…
里に仇なす者は許さぬ
Those who do wrong to the village won’t be forgiven.
 
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How is it wrong?

Response to #1. That's speculation on your part.
Also Kabuto confirms that Nagato was an Uzumaki.
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Response to #2. There is no proof the Uzumaki aren't related to the Senju.

Zetsu and Kushina give reference to the Uzumaki and Senju connection. This is the author expositing backstory through the characters. And when you consider Naruto (an Uzumaki) was Ashura's transmigrant/reincarnation and that Hashirama (a Senju) was also previously a transmigrant/reincarnation. That signifies a connection. The Uchiha have no branches or offshoot clans, so all the reincarnations have been within the Uchiha Clan. Ashura has two clans that descend from his bloodline. So there are 2 clans to choose from whenever he reincarnates.

Also keep in mind that Hashirama married Mito Uzumaki. Mito Uzumaki who was related in some way to Kushina Uzumaki (Naruto's mother). Mito is also Tsunade's grandmother. I'm sure if we had a family tree, we could find that Naruto is a distant nephew or cousin to Tsunade twice removed (removed meaning being born during different generations).

1/Yep , and it's possible , so that makes your statement also a speculation.
Nagato having Uzumaki lineage and Senju lineage , is not a proof that every Uzumaki has Senju lineage.

2/I completely agree , but there is also no proof that Uzumaki are descendants of a Senju.
I know that I make speculations , I just try to make you understand that you are also making speculations.
I hope you'll do better than bannedforlife.

Lol don't even bother with him. The dude will keep denying it.


Say the deny guy.How smart.
 
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1/Yep , and it's possible , so that makes your statement also a speculation.
Nagato having Uzumaki lineage and Senju lineage , is not a proof that every Uzumaki has Senju lineage.

2/I completely agree , but there is also no proof that Uzumaki are descendants of a Senju.
I know that I make speculations , I just try to make you understand that you are also making speculations.
I hope you'll do better than bannedforlife.




Say the deny guy.How smart.
And you're dummy. You call me in denial despite me giving manga scans & databook information to you yet you still disagree for no reason.
 

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And you're dummy. You call me in denial despite me giving manga scans & databook information to you yet you still disagree for no reason.


I know you can't understand , i feel pity for your little brain.
Deny is the solution your brain found not to feel stupid.
I just gave up opening your mind , young boy.
 
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I know you can't understand , i feel pity for your little brain.
Deny is the solution your brain found not to feel stupid.
I just gave up opening your mind , young boy.
Your jimmies seem to be rustled there m8. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Uzumaki clan and Senju clan of KONOHA are distant relatives....

Senju clan isn't the only "clan" with "senju blood". Hashirama's senju clan contained other groups who had senju blood, compared to the senju clan under Batsuma.


For them to be distant relatives, they need to share the same blood....... People should've gotten the clue Uzumaki are senju after reading these 2 scans..

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They only go into their descendents. Otherwise Ashura would've migrated to Yahiko, who had similar beliefs like Hashirama and Naruto.

wouldn't of happened as Madara was still alive when Yahiko was in his teens.
 

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You are incorrect the Uzumaki Clan comes from Hagoromo

This is from hashirama db4

達…
The Konoha Senju Clan and the Uzushio Vortex Clan are ninjas of distant blood relation…
千手一族の遠縁(とうえん)にあたるう ずまき一族も、六道仙人の一跡(いっ� ��き)にあたるとい えるだろう。
The Vortex Clan, a distant relative of the Senju Clan, could also be said to be a lineage of the Rikudou Hermit

The term 'lineage' is really ambiguous though, Hyuuga also share the same lineage with Hagoromo because they all come from Kaguya. Personally, I think that Uzumaki were separated from Senju rather than part of them. Kishi just wanted to maintain the Uchiha/Senju wank, he never bothered backing up the Uzumaki hype. :hmm:
 

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Uzumaki and Senju are related. Senjus are descendants of Ashura. So there is blood connection between Ashura-Senju-Uzumaki, it is logical to think that Ashura can only transmigrant in his descendants.
 
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