Ashura and the Bijuu

[Jokule67]

I just wanted to post this because everywhere I turn people assume Ashura's Avatar or whole power in general is from the Bijuu. I'd like to point out that Naruto himself said he is'nt Ashura, and Hago said Naruto only reminds him of Ashura in the PATH he walks. Base Naruto lacks even half the power his previous incarnation Hashirama wielded. What makes people think Ashura needed bijuu? Naruto needs the buffs to put him on that level of surpassing his senior transmigrant.

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This scan clearly states that Ashura recieved the SAME power as his brother through Hard Work and Training, and Suffering. Hago saw how far Ashura had come and how he lead his people and THEN chose to break up the bijuu. No bijuu put Ashura on that level. In fact, had he even had a single bijuu added on I dont think Indra can handle it without getting bijuu of his own.

 

[Bimbonium]

Calm down, I don't remember anyone calling Ashura a Jinchuriki.

 

[Jokule67]

Calm down, I don't remember anyone calling Ashura a Jinchuriki.

I am calm. And its been said to me on numerous occasions.

 

[Melanin]

No he wasn't a Jin and that should've been comprehended by now.

 

[Dantee]

or maybe he used chakra from the people behind him like naruto used kurama.

 

[Jokule67]

or maybe he used chakra from the people behind him like naruto used kurama.

Maybe. But Thats not possible either since Hago passed on Ninshu after Ashura had already reached Indras strength.

The power Ashura used was his own otherwise how do expect his whole clan being strong and Hashi being the strongest.

Ashuras shortcomings were his own personal problems. He was simply a late bloomer.

 

[Mister Famous]

The power of loosely tied friendship that Naruto wants, like ramen.

Edit: The power of ramen. That's the secret. Not like Naruto ever actually trains himself.

 

[Dantee]

Maybe. But Thats not possible either since Hago passed on Ninshu after Ashura had already reached Indras strength.

no he taught them ninshuu at birth.

 

[FoxesInWonderland]

Actually, base Rsm naruto > hashirama.

 

[Jokule67]

no he taught them ninshuu at birth.

Yea you right. But Hago already said Ashura awakened his own power which was the same as Indras. He stopped needing others strength as he was now stronger than all of them.

 

[Mister Famous]

no he taught them ninshuu at birth.

Ninshuu was the religion he was passing down and spreading, not fighting.

Basically, Hagoromo was Naruto Jesus.

Why do you think almost everyone knows about the Rinnegan?

 

[Jokule67]

Actually, base Rsm naruto > hashirama.

Base Hashi>>>>>>Base Naruto. RSM is a buff from Hago.

 

[deadp00l]

or maybe he used chakra from the people behind him like naruto used kurama.

Really grasping at straws with the fanfiction

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He awakened his own chakra and became strong, its literally written there

 

[Jokule67]

Really grasping at straws with the fanfiction

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He awakened his own chakra and became strong, its literally written there

I know right. This is what I mean. "What if this" "What if that?".

Its ridiculous really. He obviously only chooses to remember a no good Ashura without acknowledging the facts that are written.

 

[Mister Famous]

Really grasping at straws with the fanfiction
He awakened his own chakra and became strong, its literally written there

Kishimoto was trolling. We know almost nothing about anyone except for Sasuke, Kakashi/Obito, Madara and Kurama.

Animu is non-canon. But really, Sasuke gaiden is probably more interesting but wouldn't sell to shounen jump when he drew Naruto as a girl.

Edit: for all you know, Asura was just good at beating people up and with the ladies.

 

[Wparker6804]

I just wanted to post this because everywhere I turn people assume Ashura's Avatar or whole power in general is from the Bijuu. I'd like to point out that Naruto himself said he is'nt Ashura, and Hago said Naruto only reminds him of Ashura in the PATH he walks. Base Naruto lacks even half the power his previous incarnation Hashirama wielded. What makes people think Ashura needed bijuu? Naruto needs the buffs to put him on that level of surpassing his senior transmigrant.

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This scan clearly states that Ashura recieved the SAME power as his brother through Hard Work and Training, and Suffering. Hago saw how far Ashura had come and how he lead his people and THEN chose to break up the bijuu. No bijuu put Ashura on that level. In fact, had he even had a single bijuu added on I dont think Indra can handle it without getting bijuu of his own.

Well you should compare Naruto with Sasuke not Hashirama and instead compare Hashi to Madara. They were both trained through a lifetime of war and conflict as well as being the spear-point to an entire homeless clan of nomads. Of COARSE they'd be stronger than the next gen--they had a heavier demand & therefore higher growth. Especially for Hashirama and Naruto as far as the general rule of Asura's immigrants.

Naruto's use of the Bhiju was him representing & fulfilling the great prophecy. Hashi's natural strength is stronger but he never made as great an accomplishment as Naruto. Similar to Sasuke and Madara but I'll get into that later.

You have a point but there are a few other views you should consider, too.

 

[VongolaX]

You're right, no Bijuu gave Ashura that kind of power. The manga said that he was born with the sage's body and stamina.

I'm just curious to what type of Sagemode Ashura had prior to rsm.

 

[Dantee]

Really grasping at straws with the fanfiction

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He awakened his own chakra and became strong, its literally written there

the same can be said for naruto really in a general aspect.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

I agree though I never saw someone saying this.

 

[Dantee]

I know right. This is what I mean. "What if this" "What if that?".

Its ridiculous really. He obviously only chooses to remember a no good Ashura without acknowledging the facts that are written.

you can neglect Narutos and Ashuras story all you want but right where you think I'm the one selectively reading it also states, he also understood cooperation is what made him strong. Take it with a grain of salt no one actually knows what powers Ashura had.