lighting Armor is a tool as well, Raikage is using an element to increase his speed and reaction time. the 4th uses space time to move seamlessly between places its all jutsu. normal speed is a plan foot race. if its just a plan race i say the 4th
[Discussion] A's raw speed & Minato's raw speed
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TotallyAlex
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Yea, the way Raikage rushes is always in straight lines using his brute force to knock hsi way through enemy attacks, while minato moves at angles and his able to redirect himself in response to the situation.
Watching Raikage vs Sasuke it isnt clear whether or not A wouldve been able to stop his attack on sasuke without the interference of gaara.
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I understand what you are saying but to be unambiguous you should say Minato or the 4th Hokage because they are both the 4th for their respective villages.
Also and this does not apply to you but goes along with the same problem, Yondaime just means the fourth also so when referring to Minato people don't call him just Yondaime as there have been 4 different Yondaime's for all the villages. Only Iwagakure hasn't reached their Yondaime yet.
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The episode which kakashi talks about his mission with obito when obito dies shows minato use his speed without the ftg. He drops his bag and before it falls on the floor he takes out all the enemies so minato has raw speed.
Minato uses ftg for strategy because he can go to certain locations and then counter from a strategic point thats why he probably used it more in the recent episodes.
So minato has raw speed.
Minato uses ftg for strategy because he can go to certain locations and then counter from a strategic point thats why he probably used it more in the recent episodes.
So minato has raw speed.
Amanwithnoplan
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He marked him after saving kakashi , he saved kakashi and at the same time touched the guy's foot and marked him !
After that he used FTG to go right behind the guy and kill him !
So to save Kakashi he used his raw speed which is very fast seen that kakashi was also going very fast due to his chidori needing speed !
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Amanwithnoplan
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If anyone can use it then why don't we see it more?
Because it was a unique ninja tool of the 4th, just like the lighting armor is a unique tool of A
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Don't even start that cos all your supporters will not agree with that. Everybody can use FTG! Why haven't they been using it then if it's that simple to use?supa said:
Itachi Namikaze
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Lightning armor is exactly that, lightning, not his chakra. You obviously seem to be missing a key point here, which is that raiton armor is a ninjutsu. A does not just randomly say oh I want to go faster than before and he does, he uses a jutsu for it. Just like Minato uses a jutsu, FTG, to teleport.
Also now that i have pointed out your flaws in reasoning lets move onto the actual facts.
Minato's reflexes, not speed but reflexes, were way faster than A's. See the latest manga chapter if you don't believe me. Minato does a bunch of shit before A can even turn around.
In terms of running Minato is probably equally as fast as A with his raiton armor, if he isn't faster.
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Lightning Armor is coveting his entity with his chakra mixed with lightning: Thus, perfect combo of his chakra + nature affinity.
The attack I believe you're referring to is Kirin, which uses raw lightning.
Thanks for admitting Minato Namikaze teleports, instead of physically moves :3
Minato's reflexes are overrated, he did not use the FTG on his right hand to escape, but actually he used the FTG he already threw to escape.
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Yeah anyone could use both if
1) They were insanely skilled with sealing jutsu
2) Were incredibly fast to begin with as you need reflexes to properly use FTG
3) Had mastered lightning element (for raiton armor)
4) Had tons of chakra (also for raiton armor)
5) Had someone to teach them these jutsu as only one person knows each
No one really has any of those qualifications now do they? Other than Minato who has really been any good at sealing? Only Jiraiya and Oro and we can assume Minato taught Jiraiya that stuff since he basically taught him everything else he created.
Also no one naturally is as fast as Minato was, Raikage would have to use raiton armor to be able to utilize FTG and what would be the point of that?
As for raiton armor obviously some people have mastered lightning element but they would have to have huge levels of chakra to be able to use it and someone (A) would have to teach them how to actually do the jutsu.
Wow you managed to misconstrue most of what I said. Firstly let me point out the most obvious thing, I never referenced Kirin and nowhere ever do I come close to doing so as it is not relevant to what we are talking about.
Secondly after Minato used FTG to teleport away from A's first attack Minato then managed to turn and throw that kunai back at A and use FTG again all before A managed to turn around. He then kicked off of A to avoid the hachibi tentacle.
And lastly no that is not what he is doing with raiton armor, he is pumping lightning into his own body to speed up his reflexes. He isn't mixing the two he is just using one to create the other, which all ninjutsu does.
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Supa said:
The emphasis was on anyone. Those two ninja's you used are gifted ninja's like the original users. Why not say Kiba could use one of the two (or even the 'GIFTED' Neji)Supa said:
Because he doesn't have a lot of chakra and can't control it up to that level? I'm sure there is more to it than that as well since A is the only one we have seen in Naruto & Naruto Shippuden who has been able to do something like that with Lightning Release
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