[Discussion] A's raw speed & Minato's raw speed

Avani · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
Tobi doesn't have EMS, why do you think he uses others Sharingans?

Who cares about EMs at this point. I wonder if he has even MS.. No MS NO MS ABILITIES- Any of it .

Itachi Namikaze · Jun 11, 2011

UxCxHxIxHxA said:
I know it's not me, its my stupid internet connection, it lags on me and gives double posts. I have to check everytime for double posts, if there are, I eliminate them. You catch it before I was able to eliminate it.

Ok my bad I was just trying to keep you out of any trouble. Well fair enough then. I'm done with this thread as there is no point in discussing it anymore. That's why I posted my nonsense about Minato having every KG and actually being Tobi/Madara. Just to see if I could rouse him to argue it but he didn't take the bait. Good for him I suppose.

Avani · Jun 11, 2011

yondaimeminato said:
The power Madara uses seems to be a power from a MS.

Space time jutsu? Kakshi said in the chapter before this (the link I posted) that this guys space time jutsu is better than fourth as he doesn't even need any hand seal or tatoo. But I'm not sure that it must be a MS sharingan ability only.

Itachi had a Crow genjutsu independent of his sharingan powers. didn't he?

Supa · Jun 11, 2011

yondaimeminato said:
Ok lets just say they are the same which I don't really care. Sasuke was able to use cut through his armor and cut his chest which made Raikage bleed.

According to Raikage's explanation of sasuke's chidori. It's made to increase power and penetration. In sasuke's case it's increasing sasuke's hand power and penetration.

It's even more dangerous if Minato uses a sharp kunai to increase its power and penetration thus the reason why it cut through killer bee tentacles with such a force that sent Raikage flying and severe the flied.

Assuming Minato has lighting power of course

He didn't use any elemental powers on the knife though, but if he did, yes R'Kage would be screwed, lol.

Supa · Jun 11, 2011

yondaimeminato said:
The power Madara uses seems to be a power from a MS.

What powers might they be? We've only seen Tobi with Sharingan throughout the series. I'm beginning to wonder if he even has his EMS anymore..

Itachi Namikaze · Jun 11, 2011

isthatnecessary said:
Space time jutsu? Kakshi said in the chapter before this (the link I posted) that this guys space time jutsu is better than fourth as he doesn't even need any hand seal or tatoo. But I'm not sure that it must be a MS sharingan ability only.

Itachi had a Crow genjutsu independent of his sharingan powers. didn't he?

Itachi had alot of jutsu independent of sharingan. He was a master of nin-, gen-, and taijutsu. Just saying, Itachi is my favorite character and was even before we found out he was a good guy.

yondaimeminato · Jun 11, 2011

isthatnecessary said:
Space time jutsu? Kakshi said in the chapter before this (the link I posted) that this guys space time jutsu is better than fourth as he doesn't even need any hand seal or tatoo. But I'm not sure that it must be a MS sharingan ability only.

Itachi had a Crow genjutsu independent of his sharingan powers. didn't he?

I am not sure about space time jutsu but this is the jutsu I am talking about.

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Every time madara uses this jutsu. Kishi doesn't want to show madara's right eye.

yondaimeminato · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
He didn't use any elemental powers on the knife though, but if he did, yes R'Kage would be screwed, lol.

it must have been to have caused so much damage, it's all i m saying. There is no way in hell that just a kunai with nothing in it can cause so much damage

Supa · Jun 11, 2011

yondaimeminato said:
it must have been to have caused so much damage, it's all i m saying. There is no way in hell that just a kunai with nothing in it can cause so much damage

Brother, the knife itself is special (FTG).

yondaimeminato · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
Brother, the knife itself is special (FTG).

I know it is, but it's just a seal. The seal is used so that minato can teleport through it but a kunai with seal in it alone can not cause so much damage. You have to understand this at least.

Supa · Jun 11, 2011

yondaimeminato said:
I know it is, but it's just a seal. The seal is used so that minato can teleport through it but a kunai with seal in it alone can not cause so much damage. You have to understand this at least.

I understand, but until we get more information, we cannot truly answer without looking ignorant. Everything points to Minato being wind-natured (Naruto). But I still believe he is lightning-natured.

Avani · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
What powers might they be? We've only seen Tobi with Sharingan throughout the series. I'm beginning to wonder if he even has his EMS anymore..[/FONT]

Well at least one thing is agreed upon. supa agrees that tobi never showed amaterasu, tsukoyomi and what not.. so we can conclude he does not have it.

Next-

Supa · Jun 11, 2011

isthatnecessary said:
Well at least one thing is agreed upon. supa agrees that tobi never showed amaterasu, tsukoyomi and what not.. so we can conclude he does not have it.

Next-

Yes, but I was referring to Uchiha Madara having Tsukuyomi, Amatarasu, Susano'o, and Izanagi..

Avani · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
I understand, but until we get more information, we cannot truly answer without looking ignorant. Everything points to Minato being wind-natured (Naruto). But I still believe he is lightning-natured.

The MOvie The Lost Tower showed Minato's element as wind. I know it's not authentic till used in manga. JUst pointing out the probabilitites.

Supa · Jun 11, 2011

isthatnecessary said:
The MOvie The Lost Tower showed Minato's element as wind. I know it's not authentic till used in manga. JUst pointing out the probabilitites.

I've already pointed out the possibility in other posts, but I'm bias so I'm gonna say lightning :3

Avani · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
Yes, but I was referring to Uchiha Madara having Tsukuyomi, Amatarasu, Susano'o, and Izanagi..

I was kidding... I know you are not going to give up. I'm out anyway. Bye for now..

yondaimeminato · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
I understand, but until we get more information, we cannot truly answer without looking ignorant. Everything points to Minato being wind-natured (Naruto). But I still believe he is lightning-natured.

In my opinion Minato is wind nature and we will find out in time what nature Minato is.

Dratasy · Jun 11, 2011

Supa said:
That's for usage of perfect Izanagi. Any member of the Uchiha clan may use Izanagi, but the inevitable would be losing eye(s).

Sasuke is using the same jutsu as R'Kage, the only difference is he's only doing it on his hand, whereas R'Kage does it on his body.

Actually the "imperfect" Izanagi you speak of is the Danzo one, not every Uchiha can use Izanagi as far as Madara has stated, unless you link me to better proof than "It's banned" then you have no proof at all, something can be banned and still not be learned without help (Senji blood needed)

Dratasy · Jun 11, 2011

isthatnecessary said:
The MOvie The Lost Tower showed Minato's element as wind. I know it's not authentic till used in manga. JUst pointing out the probabilitites.

Where in the movie did he use Wind? I must have missed it lol, can you link me or give me the time it happens? Just curious to see is all, not trying to say you're wrong

Avani · Jun 11, 2011

Dratasy said:
Where in the movie did he use Wind? I must have missed it lol, can you link me or give me the time it happens? Just curious to see is all, not trying to say you're wrong

I don't watch movies... lol- I read narutopedia.

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■"Minato" means "harbour" (港) and "Namikaze" means "waves and wind" (波風).

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