You're in denial and i'm not surprised. Since when has anything said by a regular member been taken seriously or into consideration... once? twice? If it's such a humble contest why could you not award anyone over last month's contest? It's for fun after all right? right? I'm not trying to force an idea that this should be turned into some kind of super professional contest. What i'm actually trying to prove i already did in post #1
"Traditional Art Contest of the Month" or "Traditional Contest of the Month" honestly doesn't sound as stupid as you think, and i fail to see how it can be any more confusing than "Art Contest of the Month" already is, but whatever i guess, you win, who am i to question an old wise admin... am i right? i'm sure you can agree with me on that.
It was sort of an experiment, i have no plans to participate (or try) to participate ever again. Especially after today, Cali probably hates me anyway.
I stated the factual reality of the situation. If you call that being in denial, then you can only be described as being delusional. I've been on this forum since 2009 and many things have been suggested by members; some of them declined, some of them accepted and I personally always approach suggestions the exact same way: what are the advantages? What are the disadvantages? What do we gain? What do we lose? If the pro's do not outweigh the contra's considerably, I'm not going to support it.
You on the other hand are a prime example of someone who did not think about this at all. You just see what you want to see, blur out everything else that doesn't suit you and make up things that are baseless, but are convenient for you.
For example you comment about "once, twice" despite the fact that countless of suggestions have been implemented.
Example number two the Art Contest prizes. I always give the prizes before I post the poll of next month. When someone wins a contest, we have to give that person a subscription to the contest winners user group that lasts exactly one month. I always try to more or less give the winner his prizes around the same moment last month's winner subscription has ended. Also I need to check the votes first to see if nothing is wrong and because there were some bugs with the subscription system, Zise has been working on it and asked recently that we notify him about the winners and that he will take care of it. I notified him around 2 or 3 days after the poll ended. I don't know if the winners have received their prizes already or not, but it's a fact that since 2009 every person who had to receive a prize, received it. Still here you are whining about it, despite that it's nonsensical, simply because in your delusions you think it works in your favor.
And yes it sounds stupid. It's a subjective opinion, however considering I am the one who hosts the contest and can decide on the name, I say no among others because of the earlier approach I mentioned: the disadvantages outweigh the advantages, in fact there aren't even advantages. People have always known this contest as the "Art Contest". So changing the name will only create confusion and then I need to explain what the hell traditional is supposed to mean, which does not have a clear definition. So your idea is to solve a problem that doesn't really exist by proposing an even more dubious problem? Logically I'm not going to support such a thing.
I don't hate you, but do I find you a nuisance and it's fairly obvious as why when you make comments like that. Instead of simply asking me politely about this in a VM or PM, you decided to make a public thread where from the get-go you make sarcastic and mocking statements, but after a while you say stuff like "he hates me now"? This kind of messed-up reasoning and attitude is quite representative for everything you just did and said.
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The rule explicitly forbids digital entries. Either change/remove the rule or deal with the complaints.
I dealt with the complaints successfully; it's not my fault if some people are to obstinate to accept, or simply lack, the ability to reason logically; so I'm not really sure what you are whining about and why are you even involving yourself while it's very obvious you actually have barely or no knowledge about this matter or even care, you likely just decided to intervene hoping that the situation would escalate.
I can only assume you only read half of the rule you just posted and made up the 2nd part in your head assuming that everyone is to lazy to read an entire sentence and hope that they are retarded and take your word for it. The first part is the rule that forbids manipulation, the 2nd part is about an exception on this rule, namely graphic tablets. There are many rules on NB, and in the real world for that matter, that have exceptions. In fact it's more common than not that they have exceptions. So how is this contradictory? It would be contradictory if it wouldn't be in the rule, but I would allow it. It doesn't even make sense what you say.
And the reason why I have this exception, is very simple. It wasn't even present in the original rule, but at one point someone asked me if he could participate with a graphic tablet and that provided a problem as the criterium I used was the way how the work was created. There's a huge difference between clicking on your mouse in an editing program and using pencils or something else to put something on a paper. The two are not directly related, so they do not belong in the same contest as you can't compare them. However it's also a fact that technically speaking all submissions are digital as even if you made the original by hand, you still need to scan it or take a picture and upload it. So they are all bytes and pixels and the more a picture gets copied on the internet, the more its quality will drop. If you would see an artwork in real life your impression would be different than just seeing a digital picture of it. So this provided a problem for me as with graphic tablets the scan/photography phase is skipped and the artwork is directly digitalized, however the procedure of how it was made, was conform with my criterium. So I added an exception for graphic tablets, namely that the creator has to contact me and then I will decide whether it's fair towards other participants to add the artwork.
Throughout the years the amount of people who contacted me can be counted on one hand, so in practice this provides barely or no problems whatsoever and those rare cases some of them were allowed to participate, while others were not depending on how much or how less their works appeared to have been manipulated.
*facepalm*
Honestly... i give up, this is hopeless, i'm not getting anywhere, i could come to a better understanding and have a better conversation with a toaster.
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I assume you will as a toaster will not disagree with your delusions. What did you expect? In reality there really is no issue, but as we say you made an elephant out of a mosquito; you blew something completely out of proportion. Instead of simply VMing or PMing me or another mod, who would have referred you to me, in a polite way, you decided to make a public thread full of sarcastic comments and mocking pictures and gifs because of an insignificant matter you clearly do not understand.
We really are not going to go along with you and your farce. Next time I suggest you actually think things through instead of impulsively do whatever pops up into your mind.
I don't need an explanation from the genius who created such a contradictory rule and is now violating it. He bans software such as GIMP because of the aforementioned reasons in the rule, but allows people to use graphic tablets, which allow people to do the the exact same thing as the mentioned software.
The easy solution here would be to change the rule and completely forbid the use of technology (and maybe create a separate contest for digital artists). This contest should be about how good the contestants can draw on paper. Say what you will but graphic tablets are as unfair as image editing software - any errors are easily undone, zoom in to nitpick details, scale the image, the drawing is done much faster, etc. And if these people can draw on a tablet but not on paper, then they have no business taking part in this contest. There's literally zero excuse as to why they have to use anything besides paper and pencil.
I mean... show me a piece of digital art that is worth millions of dollars and I'll concede, but until then... stay wrong, people in power.
There is no contradiction and it doesn't even make sense that I violated it. How do you violate a contradiction? That in itself is a contradiction, you don't even make sense anymore. There is a rule, which I always followed. There's an exception on that rule that was added due to a real existing issue and that exception since then has only been used by a handful of people and whenever someone decided to utilize the exception, I did what was explained in the rule.
No, the easiest solution was simply that you kept your mouths shut because there was no issue or in the least wouldn't have acted like a bunch of spoiled children and caused a scene. Not a single issue with that rule since 2009 and now suddenly there is a problem that needs to be solved? This matter is closed and the decisions have been made. If anyone still continues with this farce, he will be dealt with accordingly.
