[Discussion] Aren't people underestimating Kabuto a little?

[Melizzle]

No, that Genjutsu returned Itachi to normal, he's not Edo tensei anymore.

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He isn't under Kabuto's control anymore but he's sitll edo tensaid and still using a host body. If Kabuto disperses the host body, then Itachi will just be a wandering spirit.

 

[diablo646260]

i know just because he is not being controled by edo doesnt mean he is not still an edo summon

I know that he was summoned to the battlefield as an edo, but when shisui's eye relaesed him from the edo i believe that made him human. Think about it for a min, its his true body, and his true soul, its not zetsu at all, so even if kabuto was forced to cancel the edo, i think that Itachi would still be alive since he has his soul in his body and kabuto made it back to working condition. Thats my take on the whole Itach edo thing:shrug:

 

[Anub]

Most of the fans are currently believing that Itachi his going straight to Kabuto, putting him under genjutsu to stop Edo Tensei and everything will be fine.
But I highly doubt that things are going to get that smoothly. First of all, it would make a really disappointing chapter if the almighty Edo Tensei is stopped just like that. It has a huge meaning for the plot and Kabuto is one of the best developed characters of Kishi. He was introduced as an ally who seems to be quite weak, then turned out to be Orochimaru's assistant and now he's like the ultimate master mind. He's using Tobi and his war for his own (unknown) goals. Kishi will not kill him off like that. Plus he hasnt shown "that technique" yet. Whatever it might be, it's going to be even more powerful than Edo Tensei. (Everything else would be dumb; you dont reveal the more powerful technique first.)

Dont get me wrong, I really like Itachi and dont like Kabuto as a character but Kishi will never allow Itachi to easily kill Kabuto. That doesnt mean that Kabuto will survive and Itachi will fail. I only mean that its not going to be as easy as everyone seems to be expecting it.

bold: I highly disagree. Kabuto has been a secondary character all along, always being somehow annoying and lacking individuality throughout Naruto. Now all of a sudden, after being literally a pushover, he emerged to become the "strongest" shinobi and summon even the mighty Madara? Come on... that has to be the worst plot jump in naruto...In a few months or so (in naruto universe) he managed to gather all that dna and perfect the edo tensei? I get that he followed Oro closely, but come on... And now people regard him as a genious of sorts...

And saying that he is well developed is a joke, no offense.

You have characters like Itachi, Jirayia, Nagato, Naruto, Kakashi ... all with background that leads up to their present actions, all surprising us at least once with a believable plot twist. As a matter of fact I think even Tobi is better developed than Kabuto ... and we don't even know who Tobi is.

 

[diablo646260]

No, that Genjutsu returned Itachi to normal, he's not Edo tensei anymore.

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*raises 1 eyebrow* Are you copying me *looks with uncomfortable glare*
ok so i used pg 7 where kabuto says hes clearly on another level, not even the edo can hold him.

 

[Melizzle]

I know that he was summoned to the battlefield as an edo, but when shisui's eye relaesed him from the edo i believe that made him human. Think about it for a min, its his true body, and his true soul, its not zetsu at all, so even if kabuto was forced to cancel the edo, i think that Itachi would still be alive since he has his soul in his body and kabuto made it back to working condition. Thats my take on the whole Itach edo thing:shrug:

It's not his true body. to edo tensai you must sacrifice a host (that aburama anbu for instance) then take dna of the summon target (itachi) and fuse them together or something, but the main thing is that it's not his own body. Kabuto perfected the edo but performs it the same way that Orochimaru did.

 

[Vasto Lordé]

He isn't under Kabuto's control anymore but he's sitll edo tensaid and still using a host body. If Kabuto disperses the host body, then Itachi will just be a wandering spirit.

Are you sure ?? I think I understand what he meant by "Normal" xd, thanks for correcting me

 

[Vasto Lordé]

*raises 1 eyebrow* Are you copying me *looks with uncomfortable glare*
ok so i used pg 7 where kabuto says hes clearly on another level, not even the edo can hold him.

Lol I didn't even notice you replied to him, I was reading through the chapter , but sorry xd, anyways I was wrong

 

[TKDdude04]

Most of the fans are currently believing that Itachi his going straight to Kabuto, putting him under genjutsu to stop Edo Tensei and everything will be fine.
But I highly doubt that things are going to get that smoothly. First of all, it would make a really disappointing chapter if the almighty Edo Tensei is stopped just like that. It has a huge meaning for the plot and Kabuto is one of the best developed characters of Kishi. He was introduced as an ally who seems to be quite weak, then turned out to be Orochimaru's assistant and now he's like the ultimate master mind. He's using Tobi and his war for his own (unknown) goals. Kishi will not kill him off like that. Plus he hasnt shown "that technique" yet. Whatever it might be, it's going to be even more powerful than Edo Tensei. (Everything else would be dumb; you dont reveal the more powerful technique first.)

Dont get me wrong, I really like Itachi and dont like Kabuto as a character but Kishi will never allow Itachi to easily kill Kabuto. That doesnt mean that Kabuto will survive and Itachi will fail. I only mean that its not going to be as easy as everyone seems to be expecting it.

I agree that it won't be a cake walk...but I still think Itachi will negate the jutsu with some kind of genjutsu. How else would it ever be stopped? Are they going to seal every single one of the edo's?

 

[Inception]

Even if Itachi succeeds, Kabuto will come out alive.

Remember, killing the caster doesn't cancel Edo Tensei. It can only be cancelled if the necessary seals are formed.

When Itachi forces Kabuto to perform the seals, by whatever means necessary, he would only have cancelled Edo Tensei, destroying himself during said action. Kabuto won't die.

He can't kill Kabuto before he forces him to perform the seals, otherwise Edo Tensei won't be cancelled. And, when he somehow forces Kabuto to form the seals, Itachi, himself, will disappear.
So logically, Itachi can't kill Kabuto.

I believe it's a great plot device, so that Kabuto can be seen later on in the series again, as another boss villain, this time as the main one.

So much false info in this post.

Cancelling Edo will not release Itachi as he is clearly "free" of any control Kabuto had. Why wouldn't Kabuto release and re-summon Itachi if this was the case?

No one is assuming it'll be easy. We're getting to the end of the manga and Kabuto is one of the main villains in the story and has been since the very beginning. There's so much lack of common sense in OP's post. Are you forgetting about Kabuto's "that jutsu" which makes him invincible or so he says?

Kabuto is a punk

but yea all kabuto has to do is clap his hands and say release and itachi is finished

Lol.

well, i regard him more as a strategist rather than a strong shinobi..

^ This. Kabuto has always been shown as the sneaky, strategist type. That being said, no one said he isn't strong. Itachi is a genius, Kabuto is a very strong strategist and he has access to who knows how many techniques since his little experimentation after Oro's death. This fight will be great if Kishi can get back to creating quality chapters.

 

[Necron]

Itachi won't kill him, he will control him. An eye for an eye, and a manipulation for a manipulation.

 

[Kirin Rei]

So much false info in this post.

Cancelling Edo will not release Itachi as he is clearly "free" of any control Kabuto had. Why wouldn't Kabuto release and re-summon Itachi if this was the case?

Wut?

You don't make any sense.

Cancelling Edo will turn Itachi to dust.
It's not revealed yet, but you probably can't cancel Edo's one by one. Otherwise Kabuto would have done it the moment he felt Itachi break his control.

Itachi only overwrote Kabuto's controlling talisman with Kotoamatsukami with the command of protecting Konoha.
He's still an Edo.

:headkeyboard:

 

[Melizzle]

It's not revealed yet, but you probably can't cancel Edo's one by one.

That's and interesting concept I can;t believe I didn't think of this! Everyone keeps asking me why then Kabuto just doesn't release and I never have an answer I just know Itachi can still turn to dust lol. +rep!!!!

 

[Honord Sage]

Kabuto's body may be burning up the same way Orochimaru did from the stain of so much chakra being use to created and control the dead, that may be way He is keeping Orochimaru first student alive in case He needs a new body.

 

[Kirin Rei]

That's and interesting concept I can;t believe I didn't think of this! Everyone keeps asking me why then Kabuto just doesn't release and I never have an answer I just know Itachi can still turn to dust lol. +rep!!!!

Hahaha, thanks.

Plus, that probably is the downside of Edo Tensei, as Itachi mentioned.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Most of the fans are currently believing that Itachi his going straight to Kabuto, putting him under genjutsu to stop Edo Tensei and everything will be fine.
But I highly doubt that things are going to get that smoothly. First of all, it would make a really disappointing chapter if the almighty Edo Tensei is stopped just like that. It has a huge meaning for the plot and Kabuto is one of the best developed characters of Kishi. He was introduced as an ally who seems to be quite weak, then turned out to be Orochimaru's assistant and now he's like the ultimate master mind. He's using Tobi and his war for his own (unknown) goals. Kishi will not kill him off like that. Plus he hasnt shown "that technique" yet. Whatever it might be, it's going to be even more powerful than Edo Tensei. (Everything else would be dumb; you dont reveal the more powerful technique first.)

Dont get me wrong, I really like Itachi and dont like Kabuto as a character but Kishi will never allow Itachi to easily kill Kabuto. That doesnt mean that Kabuto will survive and Itachi will fail. I only mean that its not going to be as easy as everyone seems to be expecting it.

i kind of aggree, and i'm almost sure that kabuto will in fact, break itachi's winning streak. itachi will cause him probelms though, maybe mess up his plans a little, perhaps even force him to release madara or something.

anyway, i'm sure kabuto has gotten lots stronger now, but he's been portrayed as a big coward since the start, in addition to being a bigmouth, something both kakashi and tobi commented on. he's smart and we don't know anything about him yet, but i'm not remotely interested in him. orochimaru was 10x the villian he is.

 

[Deidara Akatsuki]

i kind of aggree, and i'm almost sure that kabuto will in fact, break itachi's winning streak. itachi will cause him probelms though, maybe mess up his plans a little, perhaps even force him to release madara or something.

anyway, i'm sure kabuto has gotten lots stronger now, but he's been portrayed as a big coward since the start, in addition to being a bigmouth, something both kakashi and tobi commented on. he's smart and we don't know anything about him yet, but i'm not remotely interested in him. orochimaru was 10x the villian he is.

Yes but Oro would 100% definatly NOT have gotten as powerful as he is now ( i do not believe oro is dead ) without kabuto.


Kabuto is the strongest character ever at peak power.

He can summon Itachi , Nagato and Uchiha Madara At the same time to fight for him.......... Are you KIDDING ME?

No Itachi will not beat kabuto, but he will harm kabuto severely or his plans