[Discussion] Are You Liberal OR Conservative?

Are You Conservative Or Liberal?

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Lay off the weed dude, democrats run this country to the ground, your pretty much a socialist with all this giving to everybody bull shit. You get where you get by the effort. Immigration is bull shit. Yes people from all over the world can live in America but it's a process. People that come without going through the procedures are unaccountable and hurts everyone in the country. Yes I'll agree climate change and all the freedoms you suggested are a given. Those are human rights. So I'm a republican. Liberals will be the death of America,,, but hey who knows when a forest burns another forest just as beautiful grows... I'm just glad obamas going to be done and if Hilary wins I'm a.....
Please don't do that. 'Liberals' in the US aren't Socialists. Obama isn't a Socialist. Even Bernie Sanders isn't a Socialist - He's a Social Democrat.
 

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Please don't do that. 'Liberals' in the US aren't Socialists. Obama isn't a Socialist. Even Bernie Sanders isn't a Socialist - He's a Social Democrat.
Obama like Saul Alinsky is a community Organizer, thus a socialist. Obama just doesn't have the means to impose true socialism. He's doing the best he can though
 

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Obama like Saul Alinsky is a community Organizer, thus a socialist. Obama just doesn't have the means to impose true socialism. He's doing the best he can though
Wait, being a community organizer makes you a socialist? :lol.

I don't think you know why Saul Alinsky was a socialist.
 
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Wait, being a community organizer makes you a socialist? :lol.

I don't think you know why Saul Alinsky was a socialist.
Community Organizers try to organize the poor to take power. Their main goal is wealth re-distribution, the most prominent pillar of socialism.


Lets look at the definition of a community organizer

Community Organization is one of the primary methods of social work. It deals with intervention in the communities to solve the community problems. As a method of social work community organization can solve the problems of many people in the community through their collective involvement.


Now the definition of socialism

"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."


Funny how one is organizing the community for one common goal, the other is trying to give means of production to the entire community... they run hand in hand
 
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Obama like Saul Alinsky is a community Organizer, thus a socialist. Obama just doesn't have the means to impose true socialism. He's doing the best he can though
True Socialism is a part of the Marxist school. If Obama was attempting to impose anything like that you'd feel it immediately.

Community organizer equals a Socialist? What are you talking about? All people of all political affiliations can organize communities and they do.
 

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True Socialism is a part of the Marxist school. If Obama was attempting to impose anything like that you'd feel it immediately.

Community organizer equals a Socialist? What are you talking about? All people of all political affiliations can organize communities and they do.
As I said earlier, Obama is imposing the only socialism he has the power to impose. Checks and balances keep him from taking power.

And yes community organizers are almost always socialist, as they are the ones who advocate the community ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange. The only way to do that is to get the community on one thought path.
 
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