are uchihas strong without

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They are known as a superior clan and geniuses. They excel exceptionally in the academy even before the awakening of the sharingan. Sasuke was best in his class, faster and stronger than naruto and Sakura without the sharingan And excelled well in their first mission.
 

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You never answer a thread. Why can't you stop being an idiot and make a serious post for once? Honestly it's my serious opinion. I've seen hundreds of your posts and I always scroll past them fast because I know they are garbage. It's not even funny its mind numbing.
You do well on not seeing them. Meaning there is no reason for you to even post this post.

I mean't I do see your posts but I rarely think about them. Its just like, "Oh its this guy again" kind of thought. But once I've seen enough I've seen enough.
Well I could care less if you read my posts or not. The fact it bothers you is very dumb to be honest.


Actually I apologize because this isn't the right place to bring that concern to your attention. It bothers me because you're everywhere and most of your posts are nonsense and complete crap. I should be bothered. Trolls and toxic people should bother me because if it doesn't then I have low standards or I'm just as bad as them.
Hit the freaken ignore option and stop wasting my time. I could careless about this shitty rant.

Does it block all of your posts?
Yes Einstine.
 
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There's no reason why any of the Uchiha listed couldn't be a stronger version of Minato/Tobirama; they're equally skilled, and possess the Sharingan and more potent chakra. So yes, they could very easily be Kage level without MS, they just happened to have MS in the manga.
 

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Itachi's brain power humiliated Orochimaru

Itachi's brain power allows him to see weaknesses in every jutsu

Itachi's brain power guided Sasuke to EMS

Itachi's brain power allowed him to awaken some of the most powerful eye abilities a descendant of Kaguya can have

Sasuke mastered Senjutsu at the age of 12

Sasuke's talent put a jinchuuriki to shame at the age of 12

Sasuke's talent killed an entire army without effort

Sasuke's talent defeated Kage level opponent at the age of 15 (Deidara)

Madara was on par with Hashirama since his childhood

Madara can burn an entire forrest with one Katon technique

Madara tanked Shinsuusenju despite lack of Senjutsu
Welcome back? lol

OT: Madara Itachi and even Sasuke don't need MS.
 

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Itachi's brain power humiliated Orochimaru

Itachi's brain power allows him to see weaknesses in every jutsu

Itachi's brain power guided Sasuke to EMS

Itachi's brain power allowed him to awaken some of the most powerful eye abilities a descendant of Kaguya can have

Sasuke mastered Senjutsu at the age of 12

Sasuke's talent put a jinchuuriki to shame at the age of 12

Sasuke's talent killed an entire army without effort

Sasuke's talent defeated Kage level opponent at the age of 15 (Deidara)

Madara was on par with Hashirama since his childhood

Madara can burn an entire forrest with one Katon technique

Madara tanked Shinsuusenju despite lack of Senjutsu
Fck him up.
 

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Itachi's brain power humiliated Orochimaru

Itachi's brain power allows him to see weaknesses in every jutsu

Itachi's brain power guided Sasuke to EMS

Itachi's brain power allowed him to awaken some of the most powerful eye abilities a descendant of Kaguya can have

Sasuke mastered Senjutsu at the age of 12

Sasuke's talent put a jinchuuriki to shame at the age of 12

Sasuke's talent killed an entire army without effort

Sasuke's talent defeated Kage level opponent at the age of 15 (Deidara)

Madara was on par with Hashirama since his childhood

Madara can burn an entire forrest with one Katon technique

Madara tanked Shinsuusenju despite lack of Senjutsu
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Itachi's brain power humiliated Orochimaru
Orochimaru is not a kage level ninja.
Itachi's brain power allows him to see weaknesses in every jutsu
Itachi's only forte.
Itachi's brain power guided Sasuke to EMS
:lol - Why not just give Sasuke the pair of eyes instead of "guiding" Sasuke to EMS? Itachi failed as Sasuke's older brother.
Itachi's brain power allowed him to awaken some of the most powerful eye abilities a descendant of Kaguya can have
What are you talking about?
Sasuke mastered Senjutsu at the age of 12
False.
Sasuke's talent put a jinchuuriki to shame at the age of 12
Do you know the meaning of "humiliation"? Sasuke barely won that fight.
Sasuke's talent killed an entire army without effort
An entire army? When?
Sasuke's talent defeated Kage level opponent at the age of 15 (Deidara)
Deidara is not Kage level.
Madara was on par with Hashirama since his childhood
False. Hashirama died undefeated.
Madara can burn an entire forrest with one Katon technique
Wow, amazing! In his edo form*.
Madara tanked Shinsuusenju despite lack of Senjutsu
Being able to tank a powerful technique, such an amazing feat.

Weebos like you make Uchiha fans unbearable.
 

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An entire army? When?
I don't know the chapter, but didn't Hebi Sasuke kill a lot of ninjas by himself, while being with Orochimaru?

Deidara is not Kage level.
He is.
Everyone in Akatsuki was S-rank nukenin. S-rang = kage level. And his C0 explosion is powerful enough to destroy any village in an instant.

Wow, amazing! In his edo form*.
You do know that a ninja summoned by Edo-Tensei does not have full power, do you?
 

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Obito would still be a lot more powerful thanks to his mokuton+other Uchiha abilities.
Madara without his eyes would depend on if he has his senju power and that chakra reciever at hi disposal.
 

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Orochimaru is not a kage level ninja.
Orochimaru is Kage Level. Unless you think him being able to control Edo Tobirama, Edo Minato, etc doesn't let him defeat any kage in all of history.

Itachi's only forte.
All the shinobi have numerous abilities. Itachi's only forte is noticing weaknesses in jutsu? He has an entire arsenal. lol

:lol - Why not just give Sasuke the pair of eyes instead of "guiding" Sasuke to EMS? Itachi failed as Sasuke's older brother.
You seem to be ignoring an entire back story. Guiding Sasuke to EMS was the way to do things given the circumstance. Itachi wanted Sasuke to not grow up not being ashamed of the Uchiha or having a hatred for the village from a young age. Both worked. Up until Sasuke was 16. Itachi's goal for Sasuke worked, just not as he initially suspected. He succeeded being the type of brother he wanted to be for what was going on at the present time. Naruto finished the rest of it and Itachi knew he could do it as well after the fail-safe for Tobi failed and the latter spilled the beans.

How could he do that if he randomly gave Sasuke his eyes? That would bring the entire facade of being a psychopath who killed the clan for the lulz into question. This wasn't an option given he didn't care just for Sasuke, he cared for the clan's rep (since this affects how future Uchiha living in the village would be perceived & Sasuke as well)- which would be destroyed if the clan truth was made known publicly, the village-which Sasuke would want to destroy any time he'd learn the truth, shinobi in general, etc.

Not only that, but how would Sasuke know to transplant the eyes? The fight was the perfect scenario to wittingly divulge that information so he wouldn't suspect where his true allegiances lie.

What are you talking about?
The Uchiha are descendants of Kaguya (and more specifically Indra). Mangekyo is one of the most powerful eye techniques, under Rinnegan. Itachi awakened and mastered it.

Sasuke mastered his Curse Mark not at age 12, but at age 13. What Orochimaru left him with is a form of senjutsu, so he's not exactly wrong- just was off by a year.

Do you know the meaning of "humiliation"? Sasuke barely won that fight.
And he still won regardless. Kudos for Naruto making it tough, but in the end Naruto was the one who felt humiliated- he couldn't stop his best friend.

An entire army? When?
Early pt 2, Orochimaru's army of subordinates.
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Deidara is not Kage level.
You don't think Deidara can beat any Kage in history? That he can't fly out of the range of some non-genjutsu using leader who lacks lightning element and just bombard them for as long as he has clay and chakra? He could beat many of them like this.

The manga proved he was Kage level when he took away Gaara. lol
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False. Hashirama died undefeated.
If they were unevenly matched, one of them would have died in the war a long time ago.

Madara realized that he was not ever going to be stronger than Madara, just continue matching up with him. Hence why during the war arc it's explained that during one of the many times the fight he was having with Hashirama was going nowhere, he had rigged his body with Izanagi beforehand, bit Hashirama during the fight, and we had his plan on from there.

Wow, amazing! In his edo form*.
You do know that Edo Tenseis don't have unlimited chakra, they just regenerate and are no longer disabled/feel pain, right?

Madara was just Edo'd as a younger version than when he died. Meaning in his 40s, he could do the same feat as alive.

Being able to tank a powerful technique, such an amazing feat.
Yes, yes it is.

Weebos like you make Uchiha fans unbearable.
He just stated occurrences in the manga. Only thing he was off about was Sasuke's age when he mastered CM, which isn't even really an error worth mentioning.

Doesn't seem like a weaboo at all, any non-Uchiha fan can see these facts as well.
 
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They will still be strong, but not late-game strong except madara because he's from a era when most skilled ninja's are just naturally stronger than current era due to whole war experience. sasuke would need his curse seal power again to even stand a chance because he's a very aggressive fighter. itachi will be okay, he plays it safe with his genjutsu talent and has niche with water explosion clones. plus without MS he won't be chakra strained so fast and his ninja-aids will not be as much of an issue in battle. obito on the otherhand, i don't see a bright future for him. lol, but he seemed to of held his own against kakashi in taijutsu so i guess he'll be okay mid game atleast.
 
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Orochimaru is not a kage level ninja.

Itachi's only forte.

:lol - Why not just give Sasuke the pair of eyes instead of "guiding" Sasuke to EMS? Itachi failed as Sasuke's older brother.

What are you talking about?

False.

Do you know the meaning of "humiliation"? Sasuke barely won that fight.

An entire army? When?

Deidara is not Kage level.

False. Hashirama died undefeated.

Wow, amazing! In his edo form*.

Being able to tank a powerful technique, such an amazing feat.

Weebos like you make Uchiha fans unbearable.
F*ck em up
 
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