[Discussion] Are some people born smarter than others?

[Donald J Trump]

This is the theory I came up with a few months ago when walking down my street.
You take a chimpanzee and you take a human baby. You feed both of them correctly and try and teach them the same things with the same methods. After 5 years, I think it would be safe to assume that the baby would be more intelligent than the Chimpanzee.
What does this mean?

This means that if this can happen when the circumstances are same and a human can be superior because of it’s chemistry or genetics then It suggests that some people can be born smarter. If someone can be born “retarded” or incapable of complex thoughts then is it fair to assume the opposite can happen?
There are 7 billion people on the planet, not every single one of them is born with the same chemical balance and genetics. Some people are tall , some people are short and just like that way some people are born smart and some are not. I think when it comes to intelligence the reason people don’t admit this so easy is because they don’t want to be on the lower end or they don’t want to admit that other people are smarter than them.

However I think this part is very important: One person said that he could raise a healthy baby to go in any career, Lawyer,Doctor, Bin man or even an artist. I think the reason for this is because ones intelligence can be improved and normally the improvement potential is ENOUGH to be able to work in a certain field.
What this means is that If I have an IQ of 100, I can quite potentially raise it to 115 or maybe even 120 which would mean that I am capable of mastering or going into generally any profession. This means that development is possible when it comes to intelligence but it’s not all development and it’s not ALL about being born smart. Generally the development is enough to get you where you need to be.

 

[Ōkami]

Yeppers.

 

[Berkenstiel]

Ok, but why compare a human brain to a chimp brain loool.

 

[-immortal-]

Yeppers.

2x yeppers

 

[DominiqueX]

If I look at some members of NB, yes. Definitely yes.

 

[Sex]

Contrary to popular belief... we aren't created equal.

 

[Yatori]

2x yeppers

3x yeppers

 

[JENchuuriki]

You just know that now??

It's like an artist, of course he/she is born with the talent to draw, paint, etc.
but still if he/she doesn't improve/hone it like practicing everyday/drawing everyday he/she will not be good in his/her artwork. Where one with hardword and self-taught can outwin him/her.
Even if you are born with it, it doesn't mean that you are good with it.

 

[Ricardo]

3x yeppers

I say 4X YEPPERS !!!

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[Yatori]

I say 4X YEPPERS !!!

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Damn you made me chuckled at yato face XD

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Are some people born smarter than others? I don't know. There are times when I'm lazy to use my head.

 

[Dr Gilgamesh]

Absolutely.

 

[YellowFang]

Yes...

 

[Wabbit]

Some people are born smart, some can work hard. In some fields like art no amount of hardwork overcomes natural talent.
There is no quality control for babies like for a product, if there is defect it is trashed. People are sadists. They release defected babies to the world and let it suffer and get abused and eventually fail and kill it's self or die a horrible death having a miserable life.

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[Observer]

You have Naruto and Sasuke as a prime example, even though it's fiction.

But I'd say yes, it's possible.

However, I also believe that some people are born with certain type of mindset that predetermines their main activity/working fields.

 

[Tera Path]

Yes, some people are born smarter than others but we all have potential, I believe that it is the circumstances under which you have been raised that matters the most though.
(Almost) everyone has potential, most of us have a LOT of potential but we just don't know about it or don't care about it.
I urge you to read about Laszlo Polgar, he said that "geniuses are made, not born".
He wanted to prove that so he found a woman willing to help him out and they had 3 daughters, all of which became geniuses and chess prodigies, 2 of which are the best and second best women chess players in the world.

Anywho, that's a rough summary. Just do a quick Google search on him.

 

[Callypigia]

People often confuse intellect with knowledge. Furthermore, intellectualism is not fully dependent on intellect. There are many different facets of intelligence which allow a person to adapt to a changing environment.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Contrary to popular belief... we aren't created equal.

this^ rarely is anything about life fair or equal

However I think this part is very important: One person said that he could raise a healthy baby to go in any career, Lawyer,Doctor, Bin man or even an artist. I think the reason for this is because ones intelligence can be improved and normally the improvement potential is ENOUGH to be able to work in a certain field.
What this means is that If I have an IQ of 100, I can quite potentially raise it to 115 or maybe even 120 which would mean that I am capable of mastering or going into generally any profession.

i completely disagree with this, whoever said they can develop a humans brain in any area is full of shit. not to mention this nullifies the notion of the thread that we arent born equal. intellegence is measured by comprehension and the time it takes for you to understand something fully, not everyone can comprehend everything, life isnt fair life that. we have strengths and weaknesses mentally and everyone is different, nothing is perfect. children do have potential from being young but even they show weaknesses mentally in some areas compared to other children. there will always be things people arent good at throughout their life

not to mention attraction and interest play a part in development. as much as i could try i couldnt teach someone who didnt care for learning music how to write a song, they wouldnt bother trying to understand, unless i put them in a dangerous situation where they had too, or if they had interest in it. you cant really force comphrension and knowing without torture or punishment. someone can memorize something but thats not necessarily knowing it. im sure theres questions everyone of use knew the answer to at some point in school, that if we were asked today we wouldnt remember without looking it up

 

[Donald J Trump]

Yes, some people are born smarter than others but we all have potential, I believe that it is the circumstances under which you have been raised that matters the most though.
(Almost) everyone has potential, most of us have a LOT of potential but we just don't know about it or don't care about it.
I urge you to read about Laszlo Polgar, he said that "geniuses are made, not born".
He wanted to prove that so he found a woman willing to help him out and they had 3 daughters, all of which became geniuses and chess prodigies, 2 of which are the best and second best women chess players in the world.

Anywho, that's a rough summary. Just do a quick Google search on him.

Well obviously If the guy was interested in brains and is smart enough to do test, studies and confidently state things, HE himself must be smart. His kids may have become chess prodigies because of their parent's passing it down. Let's see him make a genius out of a child who has an average-under average intelligent parents.

 

[Donald J Trump]

this^ rarely is anything about life fair or equal



i completely disagree with this, whoever said they can develop a humans brain in any area is full of shit. not to mention this nullifies the notion of the thread that we are not born equal. intelligence is measured by comprehension and the time it takes for you to understand something fully, not everyone can comprehend everything, life isn't fair life that. we have strengths and weaknesses mentally and everyone is different, nothing is perfect. children do have potential from being young but even they show weaknesses mentally in some areas compared to other children. there will always be things people arent good at throughout their life

not to mention attraction and interest play a part in development. as much as i could try i couldn't teach someone who did not care for learning music how to write a song, they wouldn't bother trying to understand, unless i put them in a dangerous situation where they had too, or if they had interest in it. you cant really force comphrension and knowing without torture or punishment. someone can memorize something but thats not necessarily knowing it. im sure theres questions everyone of use knew the answer to at some point in school, that if we were asked today we wouldnt remember without looking it up

First of all It doesn't nullify the thread. I said it's possible for someone to improve their intelligence even if they are born average, this doesn't cancel out the theory that people are born smarter than you.

Let's say you are born with 100 IQ and I am born with 110 IQ. I was born naturally smarter than you were but if you train your mind and surpass me then It just means you practiced to become smarter while I was BORN smarter but didn't train it as much as you did.

Also about the second statement about attraction, don't take this as an insult but It's very easy to make a child want to learn something or care about something. You just don't understand the psychology of it.

I will give you a direct example, my mother always loved to do art when she was young but quit. She decided that her son/daughter would be good at art but didn't want to force me to love it. What she did was even when I drew terrible pictures, she encouraged me and told me they were very good and that I was gifted, the reward was my mother's attention and compliments so even though I didn't care about art I carried on and became good. Now I carry on because It would be a waste of talent to quit art now and It has many benefits so I carry on for fun and it turns out I am passionate to some extent now.

So the guy that said he could raise a doctor or a lawyer could use different trick to make them passionate about it... I mean he was a psychologist so he should know better than my mother.