Are gates user immune to genjutsu?

[Uverdore9]

Gates users aren't immune but they could forcibly break it. Tsukuyomi's effects are felt in real life as Kakashi fell down the moment it hit him. Normal MS genjutsu also has the ability to weaken an opponent's body by trauma and fear as Sasuke showcased against Cee. Pain really isn't the answer to breaking genjutsu, stamina and Kai Release is. Jiraiya said if you apply more power to break the genjutsu; it'll be unveiled. He didn't say more chakra. Chakra absolutely has nothing to do with Genjutsu breaking; the premise of your OP itself is wrong; No way in hell, gates users are immune to genjutsu; they'll break it but against powerful genjutsu users like shisui and itachi; they're as fuked as they can get. Stamina produces power; people with more stamina and ability to tap out the power from converting thier stamina are the best candidates in breaking out. Shikamaru's Shadow has a unique property; it can be mentally controlled; essentially being a partner to help break out the genjutsu; pain wasn't really the breaking mechanism there; kurenai broke out of her own genjutsu; Gai called the entire Black Ops forces like a pitiful coward when he found out his opponent was Itachi; so much for the immunity bullshīt. This Itachi never revealed his MS abilities at first; Gai got scared by a 3 tomoe Itachi; any fool can break out of genjutsu if this třash idea really works; Genjutsu wouldn't be called more advanced version of Ninjutsu by Jiraiya if that's the case. Cee was under body pain so much he became paralysed according to himself; Orochimaru was in body pain; so no way pain is the code-breaker here. Tsukuyomi isn't to be considered genjutsu; it's effects are real according to Itachi and Kakashi who suffered it first hand; Kakashi claimed one cannot break from Itachi's MS genjutsu; let alone tsukuyomi to Naruto and Chiyo.

 

[kiiro]

Why are you assuming she would use pain to break her own genjutsu?

im being 100% serious right now. The examples you gave don't hold up because everything you listed happened in the real world. where as there is literally 0 proof that she actually bit her lip.

Idk the same way the caster gauges how the victim feels when they are stabbed by imaginary swords. or the same way the caster can make it subtle so that that they don't know that there in genjutsu

@ bold, you see his missing hand after the genjutsu ends. So it happened. that's the proof.



Here: Hashirama uses bringer of darkness genjutsu. and its obvious as fuc, while not causing any pain at all:

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Hiruzen feels the self inflicted pain of REaper death:

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According to you she should be out the genjutsu since pain should trump the illusion. But nope. Hess still in it.
And another thing. You can go reread that whole fcking chapter the blood that came out of his mouth in the scan i posted is still there for the duration of the that chapter. Unlike kurenai's who's disappears the moment the genjutsu ended.

There is many types of genjutsu. For example Kishimoto says that there exist two, ocular and via seal. Any genjutsu uses your senses in some way to control your chakra.

What Orochimaru did was SEAL the sight of the opponent. This was a very powerful genjutsu that even Hiruzen couldnt do nothing. In fact, he used an other SEAL to erase the effects such as the shiki fujin.

This shows the Seal Genjutsus are much more powerfuls.

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Read for yourself.

 

[kiiro]

Well doing some research I found that it DEPENDS

For example, Tsukuyomi affects time and space. It could pass 1 second in real like, but 24 hours in your mind. Unless you could react fast enough to do something in one second which i doubt, then you have some chances.


Other thing, it Depends on the caliber of the genjutsu. Bringer of darkness worked as seal, it sealed the sight of the opponent. So this means that the caster isnt even doing a thing to control him, the seal is already doing everything.

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This happen recently in Boruto:

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So unless you have fast reaction and the genjutsu on you is doesnt seal you a sense then maybe you can get out of it.