Apparently Kishimoto really did need to shorten the ending

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Because their answers might make even less sense. They run the risk of making the Kaguya arc more ridiculous. And regarding the loose ending.. that's kinda what Naruto Gaiden is for.

Well I hope it happens either way, I would rather give us some more indpeth backstory to what happen to kaguya before she at the fruit because it's pointless to showcase Kaguya significant change after eaten the fruit that made her fall in the pit of darkness when Hagoromo was questioning about it. So I don't see how in that aspect gives more retcon.
 

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Shonen jump sucks lol. I bet they let Oda decide everything for himself since its like the biggest manga in Japan.
 

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So that explains why Kaguya is more developed in the databook.
 

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Maybe if he didnt **** around with rin flashbakcs in a desperate attempt to make us feel sorry for That shit of an Uchiha, we'd have had more time to resolve other issues.
 

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Maybe if he didnt **** around with rin flashbakcs in a desperate attempt to make us feel sorry for That shit of an Uchiha, we'd have had more time to resolve other issues.

I also think JJ Madara was a waste of time. Should have just have Kaguya filly take over Obito.
 

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I also think JJ Madara was a waste of time. Should have just have Kaguya filly take over Obito.

I think obito shouldve just ****ed off after minato sliced his ass with a kunai. Have juubi madara do the shit juubi obito did, except reduce it by around 10 chapters (since we wont need to see the rin flash backs and tnj shit) then bring in kaguya. I belive Obito spent around 40 chapters as the juubi jin, madara had 10, and kaguya also had 10, so this removing the rin and tnj stuff would provide at least a good 30-40 chapters of screen time for both madara and kaguya individually.
 

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I think obito shouldve just ****ed off after minato sliced his ass with a kunai. Have juubi madara do the shit juubi obito did, except reduce it by around 10 chapters (since we wont need to see the rin flash backs and tnj shit) then bring in kaguya. I belive Obito spent around 40 chapters as the juubi jin, madara had 10, and kaguya also had 10, so this removing the rin and tnj stuff would provide at least a good 30-40 chapters of screen time for both madara and kaguya individually.

Madara had no real connection to Naruto and Sasuke like Obito. By Kaguya posscessed Obito I mean this:

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Shonen jump sucks lol. I bet they let Oda decide everything for himself since its like the biggest manga in Japan.

They probably also give him far more competent editors that remind him about every single thing he forgets, so he has less to think about.
 

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They probably also give him far more competent editors that remind him about every single thing he forgets, so he has less to think about.
Its probably the fact that Oda isn't a completely brain dead moron when it comes to coherence in his plans. At least in that area Oda is a master.
 

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Its probably the fact that Oda isn't a completely brain dead moron when it comes to coherence in his plans. At least in that area Oda is a master.

well Oda seems like a moron to me, turning buildings into strings? come on...his editors help keep his story from going to shit, he's got the best of the best most likely. Right before the Pain invasion arc Kishimoto got stuck with some guy who right off the bat made him create a pro wrestling ninja because he loved pro-wrestling, aka Killer Bee. So yeah, he kinda had to come up with all good ideas solo without the original editor who helped create the world of Naruto in the 1st place. Shonen Jump bank all their stuff on One Piece and Kishimoto gets stuck with 1 shitty editor who has awful ideas. If Naruto was running at the front of the pack he'd get way more support and would probably have a less awkward ending.
 
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so he says Shonen Jump had decided what issue Naruto would end and he had to pace things accordingly and he thought he was "done for". Like damn **** you Shonen Jump, wonder what stuff he had to cut out in order to make it all fit and imagine how much pressure was on him wonder how that affected it as well. Read the second picture.


Does this mean the series was cancelled?

Why did SJ want to rush to the end?
 

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His fault for relying on Flash backs and not making the story coherent.
 

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His fault for relying on Flash backs and not making the story coherent.

Indeed. Kishimoto squandered too many panels, so that obviously further compounded his problem tenfold, assuming the OP is right.
 
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