Another school massacre

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What's the saying; You don't blame the car for a drunk driver.
 

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The UK had more violent crimes than the us last year and their gun policy is way more strict than america.

We have pretty strict gun laws here in aus and i wonder how our school shooting poll is compared to the us
 

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This, you can kill with a ****ing pen, but that's is not its purpose

A tool is defined by how its used. I can use a gun as a table stand. Whether or not it is effective in its use, ill admit, is related to its intended use. But guns historically were made as a tool of self defence, guns didn't have stopping power enough to kill when first created so they were just PURPOSED to scare away attacks

DONT GET ME WRONG I DONT SUPPORT GUN POLOCIES!
I just think everyone is looking at the subject wrong.
 

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So then why do we argue about gun laws in such a trenched subject, when in all honesty i could build a mustard gas bomb out of house hold items that would kill way more people than any amount of bullets. Seriously?! I am 17 and I am one of the stupidest people I know. I dont understand why we are afraid of guns. We should be afraid of people who go postal. Because If i want to go postal i could do it in FAR worse ways than with a bullet. We should build institutions to combat violent natures not tubes of metal and powder.
Cuz:
  • Without guns -> Only people smart and with abilities to do so can kill
  • With guns -> Anyone can kill people
Basicly it doesn't end the killing but will decrease it
 

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We have pretty strict gun laws here in aus and i wonder how our school shooting poll is compared to the us

I wonder how your murder rate looks, I wonder how many riots you had.
 

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They aren't even banned here but we have this thing called intelligence and we dont hand them out to every **** head on the street
 

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What's the saying; You don't blame the car for a drunk driver.

There is another saying where I come from; he who is secure from punishment will surely misbehave.
 

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Cuz:
  • Without guns -> Only people smart and with abilities to do so can kill
  • With guns -> Anyone can kill people
Basicly with may not end the killing but will dicrease it

Statistaclly it points to the opposite infact. I am now giving power unafforded to the masses. You basically said take away guns put life and death in the hands of men who are smart. Now what I am saying is lets not put life and death in anyones hands.
Cause you can take away everyones guns but now you have genuis like me going postal in way worse ways.
 
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They aren't even banned here but we have this thing called intelligence and we dont hand them out to every **** head on the street
AND YOU HAVE HIGHER MURDER RATES AND VIOLENT CRIMES! So dont give me that whole "america suxxx lel hehe they love dere guns like we love our crumpets and the queen, them bloody wanking feggets" argument. Because you sound stupid. Google. Its a thing you can use.
 

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Statistaclly it points to the opposite infact. I am now giving power unafforded to the masses. You basically said take away guns put life and death in the hands of mean who are smart. Now what I am saying is lets not put life and death in anyones hands.
Cause you can take away everyones guns but now you have genuis like me going postal in way worse ways.
No wait the cops still have guns, just the normal people can't have it, or if they do they should do a strict psychologial test and the size and power of the gun should be restricted a lot
 

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No wait the cops still have guns, just the normal people can't have it, or if they do they should do a strict psychologial test and the size and power of the gun should be restricted a lot

I agree but you should have said that before hand. Taking guns away doesnt help. Taking guns from batshit crazy people does. And I dont know where you live but I have seen cops gun down innocent citizens. You ever watch a guy die? You dont have to believe me or even listen but I know for a fact an empty gun makes you feel safer than if no one had a gun.
 

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And where did you get this fact from?

The same place you can get it from, the library. Or the internet. Or keeping up with the news. I said about indicating by the rule of thumb. The other facts are from a book about world murder rates and violent crimes in 1st world countries in the past 15 years. But good job you do have a lick of intilect. Finally asking where facts are from.
 

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The same place you can get it from, the library. Or the internet. Or keeping up with the news. I said about indicating by the rule of thumb. The other facts are from a book about world murder rates and violent crimes in 1st world countries in the past 15 years. But good job you do have a lick of intilect. Finally asking where facts are from.

Sorry, here in australia we like to know our facts before we tend to debate or argue about an issue. I apologise for assuming you would do the same. If you cant give a sauce, i highly doubt that the statistics for child shootings are 'about the same' because i cant find one
 

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ofc it's sad, but every day people are dying and no one cares about them

like in war or because of hunger, illness...
 

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It's just crazy how someone would turn and murder anyone to nothing that had nothing to do with them. Remember those children who where murdered or that movie theater accident. It's just crazy.
 
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