Another obito thread (sorry but you might find this interesting)

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DONT READ THIS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ANOTHER OBITO THREAD; IT SAYS SO IN THE TITLE. IF THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR IT I APOLOGIZE. NOW....

So I was thinking about this last chapter and what a lot of people were saying and i thought maybe i could contribute a little to the reasoning behind the whole obito personality change or reasons to how obito survived and know madara.

A few people out there believe that madara had brain washed obito and i have to agree; if not, madara did play a role in obito's life. I'll start with a simple timeline. Obito "died" while the Minato was still alive however Minato did fight against a man in a mask (this man being tobi). As we know he died as a result of Kurama being let loose as well as kushina. During the fight it was shown that kakashi and guy and everyone else were children still or at least of young age, enough so that obito would not have grown into a man that could fight the hokage. This leads to the conclusion that tobi must have been someone powerful underneath that mask (or just a GIANT PLOTHOLE because tobi did show his power of using space/time jutsu which we now know belongs to kakashi and obito). My idea is that it was madara and that obito was somewhere watching or learning from madara.

From here i get lost; however i believe this is a good start and we can work together to figure what happened. OR we can wait but i want to see if we can go further with what i started. Glad to take all suggestions plz dont flame if im wrong just nice criticism is enough :)
 

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The only problem I have with the "Madara is the one who fought Minato" thing is that it suggests that Madara possesses Kamui and Tobi's intangibility technique, which as far as we know are unique to Obito's Mangekyou Sharingan. For this reason I don't believe that Madara was the one fighting Minato, but nothing is impossible until Kishi decides it so I could be wrong.
 

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It was Obito who fought Minato. Unless you think Madara and Obito were going around switching eyes xd since he had his S/T on that fight.
 

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DONT READ THIS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ANOTHER OBITO THREAD; IT SAYS SO IN THE TITLE. IF THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR IT I APOLOGIZE. NOW....

So I was thinking about this last chapter and what a lot of people were saying and i thought maybe i could contribute a little to the reasoning behind the whole obito personality change or reasons to how obito survived and know madara.

A few people out there believe that madara had brain washed obito and i have to agree; if not, madara did play a role in obito's life. I'll start with a simple timeline. Obito "died" while the Minato was still alive however Minato did fight against a man in a mask (this man being tobi). As we know he died as a result of Kurama being let loose as well as kushina. During the fight it was shown that kakashi and guy and everyone else were children still or at least of young age, enough so that obito would not have grown into a man that could fight the hokage. This leads to the conclusion that tobi must have been someone powerful underneath that mask (or just a GIANT PLOTHOLE because tobi did show his power of using space/time jutsu which we now know belongs to kakashi and obito). My idea is that it was madara and that obito was somewhere watching or learning from madara.

From here i get lost; however i believe this is a good start and we can work together to figure what happened. OR we can wait but i want to see if we can go further with what i started. Glad to take all suggestions plz dont flame if im wrong just nice criticism is enough :)
lol. Fail theory. So damn wrong. He was able to fight Minato because Zetsu had merged with him and someone must have been controlling him.
 

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yea its confusing but tobi would not be an adult when he was fighting minato. Plothole??
Well there's also debate going on about how old he actually is, and whether he's the same age or a few years older than Kakashi. So it's either that, a plot hole (that'll probably be explained), or the aging in a different dimension theory.
 

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yea its confusing but obito would not be an adult when he was fighting minato. Plothole??
Its around 14-16 years then .. so that would mean he is like the same age as Naruto and Sasuke .. and look at them now .. they can beat almost every1 .. so it might have been Obito too then
 
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